Do you think duke of Cambridge's flybe flight was already booked?

[kenandbarbie]

Or only booked after prince Harry's controversial Private jet trip?

I believe they're often on commercial flights.

I've been on one with Prince Harry before (years ago, I was obviously really excited but played it cool)

just like I don't believe the party website made multi millions for the Middletons.

Ooh! I always wondered that!! Bit random but how on earth did all that money come from online party bags. The school fees alone! And had anyone actually ever heard of party whatsits before it became evident that they were gonna marry? Because I sure hadn't and I was always online buying that kind of stuff for my kids do’s. I’ve probably missed the obvious but always wondered that!

Also that horrid Jeffery Epstein, where did his money come from? No one seems to know!

Harry knows she didn't marry him for his good looks. She married him so she could become a princess and live in a castle.

I don't know where it came from maybe that Uncle? I just don't think it was the website.

I presumed Epstein was in finance but I don't actually know.

The Middletons had a trust fund worth a few million set up by previous generations, I think that paid for the schooling.

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What payed for all the property?

RE shirts in plastic bags.

If it upset him so much why didn't he just put the dirty shirts in his bag and take them home to wash?

Suits was approximately $300k for principal cast per season. No idea how many she was in.

If it upset him so much why didn't he just put the dirty shirts in his bag and take them home to wash?

Have some sympathy: He probably only brought a few shirts in order to fit into the Ryanair luggage allowance and couldn't afford Priority booking for an extra 10kg.

Which begs the question: Why not wash them in the hotel sink like we ordinarys do? I know from personal experience that clothes dry quite quickly in the Italian sun. Maybe his budget eco-conscious hotel didn't have a balcony?

I watched an episode of Suits the other day when it popped up when I was ill . I couldn't believe how cringingly awful it was.. Trully dire. I thought she was probably one of the best actors in it and that isn't saying much.

whiskybysidedoor Ooh! I always wondered that!! Bit random but how on earth did all that money come from online party bags. The school fees alone! And had anyone actually ever heard of party whatsits before it became evident that they were gonna marry? Because I sure hadn't and I was always online buying that kind of stuff for my kids do’s. I’ve probably missed the obvious but always wondered that!

Michael Middleton (Kate's father) comes from a wealthy family with various family trusts. His great grandfather was a mill owner from Leeds, with sons educated at Rugby and then Cambridge. Michael Middleton's grandmother married a wealth solicitor in Leeds and his father married a banker's daughter and moved to Berkshire. He and his brothers all went to boarding school. The family trust from the great grandfather is still going, split into several different trusts, and to have increased in value. And it was large to start with.

Also that horrid Jeffery Epstein, where did his money come from? No one seems to know!

He was a "financier". Which basically means other people put money into his companies to move around. He also introduced people to other people, and was paid for it.

Meghan is clearly being used to distract from baldy's affair and the fact that andrew is allegedly a child rapist.

Didn't the Middleton's receive a rather substantial inheritance? A lot was put aside specifically for the girl's education.

I think the party business would have generated quite a lot of money. They started it at a time when buying party supplies online was fairly novel. I can well imagine they had tons of orders..birthdays, anniversaries, christenings, Christmas, Easter, weddings.... It would have been fairly lucrative. Cheap tat marked up and posted. Of course now there are a trillion companies doing similar so I have no idea how much one would profit in a similar venture today.

Plus, the crown prince - now King - of the Netherlands used to work as an actual pilot on scheduled KLM flights. Afaik, he still does.

I thought Meghan was great initially. She seemed an intelligent, compassionate and independent woman.

The first red flag was the £56,000 engagement dress. I thought the wedding was wonderful and I loved watching the royal family squirm at the preacher. Since then I find them hypocritical and I worry about Prince Harry's mental health because he has been through a lot. He seems to be a genuine man and I hope he is getting good advice.

Cheap tat marked up and posted. Of course now there are a trillion companies doing similar so I have no idea how much one would profit in a similar venture today.

I always bought from them as I knew they couldn't afford to mess up an order!

@lavenderandthyme

You should watch it again and play the drinking game. Anytime anyone says "God damn" you take a shot. By the end if the episode, you're completely smashed!
The writing is just so bad... Really is cringeworthy lol

@whiskybysidedoor

I had. I had one of their catalogues in the early-mid 1990's and I used to order bits and pieces for my DCs birthday parties. I remember having some car shaped party food boxes for one party, different games and prizes for the games as well as party bags and bits and pieces to go in them. To be honest, even though money was a struggle for us back then, I found everything I bought to be reasonably priced and decent quality. Their customer service was also really good. I would not be at all surprised to know they made a fortune out of it - remember, this was before most people had internet access, Amazon didn't exist and even when it did, it didn't sell the variety of stuff it sells now.

My 'cheap tat' remark was uncalled for. Sorry.

She seemed an intelligent, compassionate and independent woman

The problem as I see it is, that maybe not all of these qualities in concert are desirable in women wishing to marry into one of the most prolific and conservative Royal Families in Europe.

I think compassion is a great attribute for anyone playing a public facing role, but I'm not so sure about intelligence (in particular high intelligence; you need only be intelligent enough to know when to follow the rules) and certainly not independence the independence part seems entirely incompatible.

To marry into the RF as a woman not bringing much in the way of a title, land, property or real wealth, your purpose is to make your husband shine and help continue the dynasty. You get to turn up to events looking nice and regal and help ordinary people feel noticed and appreciated and raise money for charity, but the ultimate aim in it all is good PR to preserve the RF. You surrender a good measure of your independence not just in where you go etc, but in what you think, say and do in public.

Crucially, you have to be happy to be content with that. Genuinely able to find joy within the limitations and feel it as a calling, feel you are serving something greater than yourself, and something - getting slightly poetic - close to heaven, after all Kings and Queens are anointed.

I get the feeling that M wants something closer to earth, and H still feels he can act like the indulged spare heir. I wonder if it will change when the Queen passes on.

As Fergie learned to her demise, nobody really wants a 'breath of fresh air' even if they say they do (daily fail etc) I'm surprised the RF don't learn.

Lest you think only MM is the victim of conspiracy theories, there was a rumour that KM’s family didn’t make all those millions through Party Pieces but by using the company to launder Carole’s brother’s drug money.

It doesn’t really pass the smell test, but that’s the kind of stuff that went around

I do think this was a bit mean on William’s part though, making it so very public (unnecessarily so, imo)

Yes I think it shows William in a very nasty light tbh. I certainly believe that his PR team sanctioned those pictures. It’s says a lot about his relationship and attitude towards his brother and his family.

Harry had been should up for being a hypocrite, but William has behaved very much like his father recently, the uncle isn’t being showered with glory at the moment.

They must have rubbed their hands with glee when MM came on the screen.

M and H are new to this as a couple, w and K have been doing this for years now, and did makes some mistakes when they were learning.

I thought Meghan was great initially. She seemed an intelligent, compassionate and independent woman.
I think she probably still is, unfortunately the press don’t want to portray her in that light.

The story could easily read M and H offset their carbon footprint, where thrifty by using heir friends plane, and W and K didn’t didn’t bother to offset their holiday, have been on holiday already this year.. it’s all about whose flavour of the month.

I see it as William being forced to do RF damage limitation. Maybe it's because I'm the eldest in my family, but I see William as always having to be responsible and taking his role as future King seriously, and with that comes sensitivity about public feeling regarding Royals being excessive etc. A feeling that could result in calls for the abolishing of the Monarchy. After all, he knows his Father isn't popular.

They were travelling budget anyway as they always do for this journey, so why would he not take the chance to reverse some of the negative press stories and restore some of public good feeling?

He has spent his life knowing his purpose, why should he allow his not too bright and irresponsible younger brother to ruin the image of the RF in the eyes of the public? I know I wouldn't.

I agree CatherineofAragon
I don't think William is nasty at all. I think he is probably in despair about the way his brother and Meghan are being portrayed in the press and trying to mitigate the negativity by toeing the line himself. I think he really loves his brother and feels burdened by responsibility to keep the ship on an even keel.