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Why is drag so popular now?

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Nothingcomesforfree · 17/08/2019 09:43

Genuine question. I have seen lots of posts on a Facebook this morning about attending some drag queen event. Mostly women and several bringing their teens ( both sexes)

It seems really popular but I have no idea why or what people going get out of it? Is it comedic or fashion or something else.

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TwoPencePenny · 19/08/2019 11:36

When women dress up and wear makeup, big hair, low cut dresses, padded bras, acts provocative and so on. Do you all see this as offensive too? And drag kings? Or is it just an issue if a man does it? In which case isn’t that the point? They are celebrated because so many people evidently don’t support them because men shouldn’t do that. yet they continue with confidence.

Fraggling · 19/08/2019 11:40

This keenness to claim that women who are unconfortable with drag really all want it banned is really tiresome.

The idea that you can read all the stuff and it sounds like everyone is saying ban it even if they haven't is ridiculous.

It's an obvious effort to paint women stating their negative feelings about drag, as hysterical reactionaries (my words, if we're OK with stating how things 'come across' on this thread rather than sticking to their actual words).

It's out of line IMO.

Fraggling · 19/08/2019 11:48

Twopence they are parodying women who dress that way. Taking the piss.

If they aren't why do they have names like cupid stunt, popping cherry etc etc etc

I find the phrasing 'acts provocative' a bit odd as well, what do you mean, how does a woman 'act provocative' what real life situations are you talking about? Or are you thinking more pop videos? I don't see women going around dressed and behaving like drag Queens tbh. What I see when I see drag Queens is a stereotypical idea of what women are or would like them to be: obsessed with appearance, bitchy, shallow and hyper sexual

Eustasiavye · 19/08/2019 13:00

I don’t see women behaving or dressing like drag queens either.
I too want a definition of ‘ acting provocatively ‘
What exactly do you mean by that?
Can you also define how this differs from a man ‘acting provocatively’.
I never ever come across any women who look like drag queens and I know and see an awful lot of women.

Eustasiavye · 19/08/2019 13:01

Also as intelligently posted up thread, how extraordinary that men never choose to dress as women for an interview. Hmm strange that.

HotChocolateLover · 19/08/2019 13:36

I love Mary Mac. Saw her at Pride and absolutely loved her performance. May even have looked her up on YouTube 😂

TwoPencePenny · 19/08/2019 13:39

Tons of women dress up, have you never been on a night out in Essex Grin
By provocative I mean overly sexual like yes in music videos sort of thing.
Someone before implied that women that do the hair/makeup/boobs on show thing are lesser women than those that don’t. So wondered if the general consensus was that no one should dress or behave like this, or if it’s men behaving like this that you have issue with.
As you all say women don’t (normally) dress and act like drag queens and we all know women in our lives, we all came from one it’s not like blackface where your idea of a black person would come from a mockery show. It’s just dramatics.
It’s understandable not everyone will like it tho. Not really my ideal night either . Seems more popular with younger gay women and I’m neither
What’s men dressing for an interview in drag got to do with it Confused most people dont just walk the streets in day to day in extravagant drag they’d probably get punched and robbed.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/08/2019 13:48

I can dress up ‘like a woman’ all I like. Because I am a woman.

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/08/2019 14:34

So women can dress like women (whatever dressing like a woman means)
But men have to dress like men as they're not women?
It's sounding very stick to your box.
Nothing wrong with feminine sexuality whether it's women or men expressing it.

BertrandRussell · 19/08/2019 14:37

Men can dress as women if they want to. What they can’t do is parody, mock and ridicule women. Which very many drag acts do.

Propertyofhood · 19/08/2019 14:59

Men can dress as women if they want to. What they can’t do is parody, mock and ridicule women. Which very many drag acts do.

This!

Propertyofhood · 19/08/2019 15:23

And I think there is a huge gap between where we are now with drag and getting it 'banned'.

See this interview with Lorainne Kelly on daytime telly - talking about this new show, being yourself, being fabulous, there is even a female drag queen featured, yay, lovely! And the makeup and outfits are amazing, it's certainly a skill.

The drag name they come up with for Lorainne? Morning Gloria. Yep, a name for a woman based on a blokes erect cock. On daytime ITV. How progressive, how expressive...

Why the need for the aggressive very male flavoured porny innuendo all the fucking time?

Let's not forget the drag queen teaching kids to twerk at the library story time as well.

www.theblaze.com/news/drag-queen-shows-children-how-to-twerk-during-story-hour

Oh and the drag queens posing in fetish gear to raise money for a children's charity.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6577301/Drag-queens-pose-glamorous-calendar.html

This is all because drag has become so popular apparently.

As I said, there is a huge chasm between where we are at, and getting drag 'banned'. I would quite like to live in a society where at the very least, none of the above are socially acceptable.

Pr1nc3ssP3rdy · 19/08/2019 15:32

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Themyscira · 19/08/2019 15:37

Award for most redundant and useless contribution to the thread goes to Pr1nc3ssP3rdy Confused

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/08/2019 15:48

Because a poster doesn't agree with you it's automatically pointless?
Are you this patronising, sneery and so sure you're right in RL?
Some think it's ridiculous to compare to blackface which a lot have on here.
People who roll their eyes at the opinion of woman face (ffs) like I and others do are perfectly entitled to an opinion too.

howwudufeel · 19/08/2019 15:50

Every trick in the book being used to belittle people of the opposite opinion.

BertrandRussell · 19/08/2019 15:50

“Because a poster doesn't agree with you it's automatically pointless?”

No. But it is pointless to pretend that drag celebrates women.Maybe some does. But it also mocks, parodies and denigrates. And it it pointless to pretend otherwise.

Propertyofhood · 19/08/2019 15:51

Because a poster doesn't agree with you it's automatically pointless?

No.

Because you can't keep saying that drag celebrates women, without actually explaining how drag celebrates women.

Plus, if Pr1nc3ssP3rdy had actually read the thread they would see that the 'exaggerated performance just for fun' is exactly what people have a problem with!

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/08/2019 15:55

You may feel mocked and belittled at men dressing up in drag.
That's your right to. Others see it as a bit if fun, expression, not offensive.
From mine and others perspective it's not "woman face" and it's pointless to pretend that all women should be offended.
As we're clearly not.

BertrandRussell · 19/08/2019 15:58

“You may feel mocked and belittled at men dressing up in drag.”
I don’t. I feel mocked and belittled by peeformances that mock and belittle. As many drag acts do.

There is a difference between a man dressing as a woman and drag.

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/08/2019 16:01

you can't keep saying drag celebrates women without actually explaining how
I've said it can be seen as a celebration of femininity, even if it is an overly sexualized version. There's nothing wrong with a so called overly sexualized look as in make up, heels, big hair, sparkly dresses etc.
If a man wants to drag up and people like to watch the shows, let them crack on imo.

BertrandRussell · 19/08/2019 16:02

So are you saying that there is never any mockery or parody?

Eustasiavye · 19/08/2019 16:05

The interview point is this:
If a man truely wanted to dress "as a woman" then why don't they go to an interview in all that make up, wig, high heels, short skirt etc etc?
Ask yourself why that is.
There are people on this thread implying that men do drag because it's who they really are and how they truly wish to express tjemselves.
Well if that's genuinely the case, why don't they dress like this in the workplace?
It's the same as men who pick a fight with either a shy much younger man or a woman. They don't pick a fight with a 6 foot 4 body builder do they? Oh no. They know exactly what They are doing.
I'll spare you the hassle of trying to answer my point.
The answer is this.
They only wear and perform drag when it suits them.
When they are safe to be misogynistic cunts.
In an interview it would not benefit them so they don't do it.
They might get interview by someone who thought they were a tw at and did not want that type of person with such obviously misogynistic views working for them.
No different to a white person turning up for an interview and telling a racist joke, it shows who you are.

0pheIiaBaIIs · 19/08/2019 16:06

@Pr1nc3ssP3rdy see my posts re my daughter, and others' comments about fish 'jokes' etc. Would you be one of the people laughing at a drag act mocking a teenage girl to the point of tears for her lack of 'femininity'? Would you be laughing at the fish jokes? Are they an art form?

Sorry to keep going on about my daughter, by the way. But none of the drag supporters here have addressed it, or said whether they're ok with men doing this to teenage girls. Why not, I wonder?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/08/2019 16:11

Because women and lesbians aren’t men. If a drag king ripped merry hell out of a man/gay man in the audience there would be a stony silence.