Rift between William and Harry?

[velveteenwabbit]

Do you think the rumours of a rift between the two are true? I thought the press may be blowing it out of proportion then saw they've disbanded their joint charity, ok fair enough they each have their own families etc... but today on William's birthday Harry and Meghan's Instagram account have posted a very basic "happy birthday to the duke of Cambridge" without any affection at all. Makes me think the rift must be true.

William is bound to stray - look at his Uncle and Granddad Spencer ...

Yes but Kate has never seemed that way inclined @Hithere12, which is why I concluded that she must love him

You’re heard her spear 2-3x in your entire life so you don’t know her in the slightest. No one would start dating a royal unless in part they wanted to become famous. They just wouldn’t put themselves through it. People accuse Meghan Markle of being a social climber but Kate is no different.

It does make me laugh on some of these messages above "William would
Never ...."
"Kate / Meghan / Harry / William doesn't seem they type to .....'

You don't know these people!! They could be cat burglars or serial killers for all you know 🙄

Both William and Harry grew up in a land of privilege and doing what you want ... both Meghan and Kate wanted to be royalty and chased it ... they were the un/lucky ones depending on your viewpoint

It's all show - all sorts goes on I'm sure - scratch the surface on it doesn't smell of roses - like pretty much everyone

Rose and her husband wouldn’t be seated together. You’re never seated together at events like that.

Also, some of the older ‘lesser’ royals are quite hard working: the Duke of Gloucester for example.

Also, some of the older ‘lesser’ royals are quite hard working: the Duke of Gloucester for example.
Yes but when the Queen and her generation die, how much qudos will a charity get from having the Duke of Gloucester'new incumbent open their fete or whatever? I just don't think they will be able to justify themselves long term outside of the first few. I don't know who the Duke of Gloucester is, and I'm 46. Would a 20 year old?

I don’t think there’s any chance of the Duke of G’s progeny taking over his role. I was just pointing out that some of the ‘lessers’ earn their keep, doing more than the younger and more glamorous royals.

I don't know about Kate's family not wanting Kate to be Queen, Carole and Pippa seem to enjoy the limelight, it wasn't that long ago that they had to be told that they weren't Royalty

For as long as I can remember there's always been some folk who moan constantly about Royal spouses e.g.
Prince Albert too strong willed
Queen Alexandra too hard of hearing/too nice
Queen Mary Family not Royal enough
Queen Mother too boring (far from it)
Prince Philip: too bossy/interfering
Princess Diana: too emotional
Duchesses of Cornwall/Cambridge & Suffolk too scheming.

Personally I think all the above from what I've heard/seen & read seem very nice.

I thought it was well known that Kate chose St Andrews hoping to nab William. She obviously wanted him badly enough to patiently wait until the aristocratic gels said no thanks and he finally proposed. I'm not a fan of her or her pushy family.

Everyone knows Harry did some stupid things in his younger days but he must have got pissed off being fed to the press which conveniently covered any of William's misdemeanours and now it seems Meghan is the one the trashy press love to hate.

I think it's natural that they aren't as close as their lives are going in different directions and if they have had a massive argument well, that's between them.

I don't get all the speculation over W&K's long relationship before marrying. DH and I met at 18 and married at 27, similar enough to them I think (we're around the same age). Who gets married at 23 these days?! We were the youngest of our crowd by a couple of years. It doesn't mean we weren't committed, we were just in our 20s. And that's without the huge burden Kate was taking on.

We have another couple in our circle who have been together a similarly long time, and took a similar amount of time to get married. They had a period of being on-again-off-again when we were all early 20s as he just wasn't ready to commit. Very hard on her at the time, but a lifetime ago now and no one thinks for a second it means he's likely to have an affair. I think it's natural to be a bit unsure about commitment at that age, and again, nowhere near the pressure on them that there was on W&K.

In neither case is the man now cheating left right and centre, and in neither case was the woman sitting around desperately wanting to get married.

However, it does seem obvious there's a rift between W&H for whatever reason. It would've been easy to put to bed by now with a couple of joint engagements or something.

Really, the RF is the world's greatest soap opera.

pissed off being fed to the press which conveniently covered any of William's misdemeanours

Where have you heard all this? I feel so out of the loop. I always thought he was pretty squeaky clean.

@SilverySurfer Kate couldn't have chosen St Andrews hoping to nab William. No-one knew he was going there until after the A Level results came out. Up to that point the royal press office had been hinting that he was going to Edinburgh. Don't believe everything you read in the Mail.

Whoever it was saying Meghan was responsible for leaking the affair story, how do you know? How do you know William had an affair with Rose Hanbury three years ago?

How does the person who stated that there definitely is a rift know?

You can't just make these claims without evidence.

. but today on William's birthday Harry and Meghan's Instagram account have posted a very basic "happy birthday to the duke of Cambridge" without any affection at all. Makes me think the rift must be true

Why? It came from their account not necessarily from them. I can't imagine they sit and do.their own posts. It'll have been one of their PR team who posted it

The Sussexes were criticised for writing "Happy birthday Louis" and "Happy birthday Charlotte" (apparently they should've added their proper titles) so maybe erred on the side of caution this time. Unless it was actually Meghan who wrote the greetings to the children and once of their press team who wrote it to William.

@Smokeonthewater

It’s all unsubstantiated gossip that Mumsnet condone yet if make comments on other subjects such as MM you will have your thread/post removed or even be banned.

No one on hear knows anything about any of the Royal family’s private life but they read some tittle tattle on the internet and suddenly they believe they’re in the know!

Personally I can’t stand most of the royals but I think it’s wrong to post gossip when they have no evidence.

William’s affair with Rose Hanbury was reported in Popbitch which is always true! Also, it’s generally the worst kept secret ever.

The royals are all at it. Camilla’s husband knew she was boffing Charles for their whole marriage. He felt it reflected well on him that the future king of England wanted his wife.

One of the Queen’s own ladies in waiting has been the D of E’s mistress for about 50 years (allegedly). As long as neither embarrasses the Queen no one turns a hair. It’s expected.

Kate has a core of solid steel. And the rest of her is made of Teflon and nails. It would have to be for her to have held her nerve long enough to get where she’s got. She’d never jack in all that hard work for something as trifling as an extra marital fling. She’s got her sights on that throne!

As others have said, harry has grown up got married and had a child of his own so is no longer the single kid brother hanging out with W+K.

Of course it easier to blame Meghan for causing a 'rift' between the 2 families rather than just accept it's what happens when you have your own family.

William’s affair with Rose Hanbury was reported in Popbitch which is always true! Also, it’s generally the worst kept secret ever.

Honestly, what can you say!

Also Whack has it not occurred to you that rather than being a scheming bitch, Kate actually loves William?

Since Louis’s birth Kate has glowed. Can’t all be fake! There was a thread recently about the Duchess of Cambridge possibly sharing a cosmetic surgeon (person who injection fillers etc) with someone on MN.

Popbitch!

Haaaaa that bitch pop bitch a reliable source I'm sure.
Seriously though some of the stories the kerb licking media concoct are dreadful that's why the lawsuits fly, I reckon another libel suit is due pretty soon.

SuckingDieselFella
@SilverySurfer Kate couldn't have chosen St Andrews hoping to nab William. No-one knew he was going there until after the A Level results came out. Up to that point the royal press office had been hinting that he was going to Edinburgh. Don't believe everything you read in the Mail

Kate had a place at Edinburgh University which she cancelled and took a gap year before applying to St Andrews after it became public that he was going there.

Sorry to disappoint, I don't read trash, I'm a Daily Telegraph Reader.

Whackitupto200 totally agree, especially with your last paragraph. She is one tough cookie.

Wasn't there a rumour that Andrew Parker Bowles was boffing Princess Anne? He was shagging around for their whole marriage too. I'd imagine fidelity is for the little people in those circles. I'd be mightily surprised if Will is the first person in his family for many generations to be a faithful husband!