Rift between William and Harry?

[velveteenwabbit]

Do you think the rumours of a rift between the two are true? I thought the press may be blowing it out of proportion then saw they've disbanded their joint charity, ok fair enough they each have their own families etc... but today on William's birthday Harry and Meghan's Instagram account have posted a very basic "happy birthday to the duke of Cambridge" without any affection at all. Makes me think the rift must be true.

I find it odd that she turned up alone at a state dinner after all the adverse publicity. Some newspapers say it is because her husband has some hereditary role in maintaining the queen's business. I am also surprised by that, given he has been blasted all over the papers as unreliable (at the very least) and is said to have disappeared to Paris. It seems more likely she has become William's mistress and Kate has decided to put up with it. Depressing though, if true...

I don't know anything personally, but I recall someone who worked in the press stating that there's a big trade off for stories in the paper - a lot of protection for the higher ranking royals like Wills for stories about lesser royals like Harry - I'm wondering if there's more at stake now Harry has a wife and baby and he's fed up with it ... no idea but it stuck in my head

Harry has always been thrown under a bus to deflect negative attention away from his brother, ie the drugs, the Las Vegas nude pics. Maybe Meghan has told Harry that he deserves better and Harry has finally realised that he is.

Rose's husband allegedly spends extended periods of time in Paris with a close male friend who lives there. They have joint business interests. Perhaps Rose is on her own a lot and William was keeping her company?

I don’t believe for a minute there was an affair.

And she wasn’t at the palace dinner alone. Her husband was there in his official capacity which is why they weren’t seated together.

I also doubt very much that anyone would disrespect the queen enough to deliberately not wear a wedding ring to a Palace function in order to make a point.

I haven’t read the whole thread because the story goes like this and possibly others have mentioned it before me. William was having it off with that Rosie Chomo???? about three years ago. It was kept very quiet until a couple of months ago when there were articles popping up about a rift between Kate and her good friend Rosie. (This is journo speak for affair when they cannot say it). So why did these articles start popping up when they did? Because Meghan threw William under the bus.

So, now it’s awkward because everyone knows about Williams affair and everyone knows Meghan was the one who leaked the family secrets. Trust broken left right and centre = rift = there are no right sides.

However if you are Harry you have to and probably want to be on your wife’s side.

How did M throw W under the bus? And why?

(I'm over invested 😂)

I’m listening to Radio 2 at the moment and there is a lady being interviewed (I didn’t catch her name) who has worked as a journo and as a celeb biographer.

She said that when she worked at the Daily Mail in the 70s if they didn’t have a big front page story for the next day the editor would send them all to the wine bar across the road to come up with something to print. I’m pretty sure the same still happens at many papers (of whatever ilk) today.

Don’t believe everything you read!

Ah I see. So she did that because there was speculation that she was causing trouble between H + W, so she wasn't prepared to be the scapegoat?

I am prepared to believe this because of the shenanigans of their father and Camilla. It was all ludicrous rumours and media tittle tattle, but then it came out as all true.

Regardless of the details of fallings out and who leaked it to the press, I do think he has had an affair.

How do you know it was Megan? It could have been anybody.

I believe its likely he had an affair, but what's the proof she leaked the story? Why would she do it? I bet it was common knowledge in their circles. The press know but aren't saying and all the gossip about Meghan being difficult (in the Royal Family? Hardly a family known for their humbleness) was leaked as a pay off to the Press to stop them printing the story.

Dorisdaisymay, with whom is William supposed to have had an affair?
Was it during his marriage or engagement or during the time they broke up? If the latter, they had split up so surely whatever he did was irrelevant.

Whatever the truth of that it's ridiculous to think Meghan leaked the story to the press.

what's the proof she leaked the story?

There’s no proof M leaked it; wasn’t it reckoned that Rose told her circle and on it went?

She said that when she worked at the Daily Mail in the 70s if they didn’t have a big front page story for the next day the editor would send them all to the wine bar across the road to come up with something to print

They had to be extremely careful with that, they could get sued like that

He allegedly had an affair with Rose Hanbury, a friend of Kates in Norfolk. It wasn't during their break up, otherwise it would be a non story. It was allegedly 3 years ago, between Charlotte and
Louis' birth. The rumours came about because they cut them off abruptly. The press overseas are printing the story but our press are not, but they are printing lots of negative stories about H & M.

The Daily Mail alleged it was the "other woman" who leaked the story after Kate dumped her from their circle of friends.

happy birthday to the duke of Cambridge" without any affection at all. Makes me think the rift must be true.

Probably because they were slated when they posted an affectionate and informal birthday message to Prince Louis.

I don't know them personally but I know a family member on their mother's side. I know there definitely is a rift but don't know the cause any more than what I've read in the papers. Whatever the cause, it's a terrible shame in my opinion.

I think that a lot of people would leak the story if they were in Meghan's shoes. She's been treated really badly by the press.

The most surprising aspect for me is how little training you and your family get when you join the RF. Thomas and Samantha Markle should have been told to STFU if they want to have any involvement with the RF and if emailing PAs at 6am (or whatever that story about Meghan was based on) isn't the done thing then somebody could have told Meghan that PAs work 8-6pm (or whatever) so if she emails early, not to expect them to sort it out until later. As a commoner I'd assume that she had 2 PAs who did shifts but what would I know?

The Royal Family sued the French magazine who published topless Kate pics. I'm inclined to think that if the affair was false then Rose or the RF would act on that?

I'm convinced that William hasn't had an affair that is why he waited so long to marry Kate, he wanted to make sure she was the right one.

He wasn’t making sure she was the right one, in fact he was rather desperately trying to find himself another option. He dumped Kate whenever he thought he’d found one (and usually threw a big party in celebration of the dumping) and went back to her whenever he was rejected. After years of that, after he’d tried and failed to win over pretty much every suitable woman in his wider circle, he finally gave up and proposed to Kate.

She seemed perfectly happy to wait around for him to realise he wasn’t the catch he thought he was, and they seem perfectly happy with the lives they both settled for, but they really aren’t some great love story. If any one of the dozens of pretty young aristo’s he’d approached had given him the time of day he’d have left Kate behind in an instant.

Do you have insider knowledge @kmc1111? Not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious. I never really bought the great love story thing that was spun.

Obviously kmc's cousin's friend's wife's sister is one of the pretty young aristos in question so it's definitely 100% true.

Definitely PCohle ;-).

I don't understand why people listen to malicious gossip and relish thinking the worst of others.

Goodness me, I am so glad not to be a celebrity or royal (or both). If I did have an affair who would care apart from me, him and my husband - the press certainly wouldn't be interested.

Seems that Harry's finally had enough of being scapegoat to William's golden child.

William's strongly rumoured (and occasionally photographed) to have been "behaving badly" for years. Rose Hanbury would arguably be at the end of a long line of William's Other Women. Poor Kate.