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Police showed up at my door last night

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AbsolutelyPetrified · 07/06/2019 09:18

Namechanged for this obviously.

About a week ago I went out shopping and found a purse in a restaurant. I used to work in said restaurant and know that the manager (at least back then) used to basically claim lost property for himself, ie. if wallets were handed in he would just keep the cash and chuck the cards, jewelry he tended to keep unless clearly useless etc. so, obviously I was a little reluctant about giving it in there. That part might have been a bit silly as its unlikely that the same manager still worked there or anything or that he hadn't eventually got caught, but anyway, I didn't feel comfortable handing it in there.

I decided to give it in at the nearest main information desk of the shopping centre (very large place with a fair few info desks). I figured that the person probably didn't know quite where they had left it anyway so they would likely try one of the main desks anyway if looking for it. Also fairly relevant here, I have a health condition which makes it extremely hard to walk long distances, especially if I need to do so quickly. It can literally take me hours to walk from my house to the local shop when its flared up properly. And this was quite a bad day too. So, on the way there I nipped into the toilet, where I saw someone I vaguely recognised and was talking to them about what happened, she laughed at me for being 'stupid' enough to be taking long journeys rather than just hand it in at the restaurant as apparently my reasons were silly , something I do agree with now, especially given whats gone on. I had to sit for a while in the loo too as I was in a lot of pain. She asked me where I was going, where I was meant to be going and that and then offered to take it to hand in as she was going that way anyway and she could see I was uncomfortable and basically, it made sense. Would have taken me a fair while to get there, and if she was going that way anyway, why on earth not just..make things a bit more convenient. At this stage I was in so much pain I was feeling quite bitter about finding the thing in the first place as it was a bit of a pain that I was now responsible for getting it sorted when all I wanted to do was find somewhere to sit, then probably go home. I gave it to her and she said she would hand it in on her way round and I thought nothing more of it.

Last night when I was sorting the kids tea, the police showed up at my door. Asking if I was at X on a certain date etc. I said yes, and they asked if I found a ourse which again I said yes. They asked if I still had it, at which stage alarm bells started going off. I said no, and told them the story. They then told me it had been reunited with its owner (so why ask if I still have it if they know I don't?!) and I started breathing again. But they said, the owner claimed a lot of money had been taken from it. I swear to god I did not open the thing and certainly did not take anything from it and basically, why on earth would I go to the trouble I had, if I was planning on taking anything? Long story short, they took a very short written statement from me (saying yes I picked it up, but passed it onto someone else because convenience) and left, but I was left with the feeling they suspected me. I have never before had any issues with the police, but am generally quite good at reading people and they really seemed to be off with me.

I gave them a description of the woman who said she would hand it in, and they said they would check more cctv. I am not concerned about that as it will show her, and will presumably show her leaving the loos and going to the help desk to hand it in, given the police told me that it had been handed in and was with its owner now. However, this claim about money being taken is scaring me a bit and I have been panicking like hell since they left. I cannot make any sense of it to be honest as surely, if this woman did take the cash from it she would have just discarded the purse entirely? What would be te point in taking it and then handing the rest of it in? Trying to think 'like a criminal', surely thats just drawing attention to yourself as you would know you were on camera and would be likely to be found out where if you just discarded it, noone would know any different especially if it was not you who actually found it? Anyway, panicked a lot about it, DH came in from work and I told him and he said straight away that the person is probably just trying it on for compensation or something. Which I had not considered at all.

Basically my question is, whats likely to happen wth this?! They did not tell me how much money was said to be missing, they did not tell me much at all really besides the fact that it was handed in, she had it but is now saying stuffs missing. I have been awake since 5am worrying about this, picturing them turning back up today to arrest me! DH says thats a but over the top but as I said, I have had no dealings with the police before (oddly, except one time when I did have money stolen from my bank, a lot of it and they just said they didn't have the resources to look into it properly) and am prbably overreacting but I am terrified. Utterly terrified.

From looking around the internet, it seems I would be held responsible as, being the person who found it I should personally have 'taken steps to get it back to owner' so I assume from that, that I passed it to someone else thats me in the wrong. I just feel so fucking stupid in all honesty and wish I had just left it where it was instead of trying to help. I mean, I know I cannot walk far and in the back of my mind I must have known it would be a right pain in the arse to actually physically get it to where I planned on taking it. I really wish I had just ignored it, and then whoever else found it could have done whatever they wanted with the damn thing. Seems a bit of..no good deed goes unpunished. Even though I know I did really stupid things too during the whole thing. Mainly, not trusting the staff in the restaurant just because I worked there a few years before and the staff at that time were not honest.

Sorry if this all sounds waffly, just trying to get everything in so as not to drip feed.

My question is basically, whats likely to come of this? I mean, they are probably going to question the woman who handed it in now. Who presumably will say the same as me, and say I gave it to her as she had offered as she was going that way, and she handed it in and that was the end of it. I cannot see any reason for her to have taken it, took the cash then went on to hand it in, that makes no sense so I do think either, someone else found it first, swiped the cash then left the purse before I found it, or the person who lost it is trying it on. But how on earth can this be proved? Are the police likely to turn up to arrest me and question me officially? Is there a chance this will end up in court?! Did I commit a crime, rather than just being a bit dim, when passing the found property to someone else rather than physically taking it myself? So so panicky and might not be the best thing to write on here about it just incase it does end up more serious but, I don't know what to do. DH says just stop worrying, but I wish it was that easy!

To make matters a bit more confusing, when I was searching last night, it seems that some police forces say not to hand in things you find at all, and that the advice now is basically, take it home and put it on social media (as police don't deal with lost property due to cuts) and try to reunite it with its owner that way. That as long as you take reasonable steps to get it back to the owner, its fine. I would say that I took reasonable steps, however I didn't know that handing it in to the main desk was seemingly now classed as the wrong thing to do?! I also thought it would be illegal to open someone elses purse and would open you up to a fair few accusatins too but apparently you are meant to open it, take pictures of the ID (remove dientifying details though) and post it online, along with calling the number on the back of any cards that are in there). All so very confusing and doing nothing at all for my anxiety issues.

Just incase the post has came out too waffly to understand, short version - I found a purse, but passed it onto someone else to hand in, it seems they did hand it in, but now the owner is claiming money is missing. Am I likely to get arrested for theft or something here? And if so, how on earth do I prove innocence?!

Please, I already know I made a few really stupid moves in all of this and as I said, really wish I had just left the thing where it was. I was paranoid in not giving it to the restaurant (though still think its more likely the person would try to claim at a main desk rather than actually in there) and possibly really stupid to pass it to someone else for convenience sake rather than struggling on to the main desk myself. So I do already know I was more than a bit dim. I also know in future, to not bother trying to help and just leave whatever where it is. I have definitely learnt my lesson in that. I just want to know if its possible to actually get charged for being an idiot basically, and how on earth I would defend myself about money that was apparently taken that I know nothing at all about and don't even know if it existed in the first place!

OP posts:
HeavenlyEyes · 07/06/2019 11:57

Surely the restaurant gave the police your details?

And how do you know there was money in the purse anyway - the owner may not be telling the truth here?

AbsolutelyPetrified · 07/06/2019 11:58

OP do you want to tell us the real story if there is one?

This is the real story.

However

I do not know if she gave my address and such. Thats been suggested and may possibly be the case. I know her name but unsure if an a is on the end, I have no clue of her surname so would be surprised if she knew mine as we are barely even aquintances.
Don't know how much cash is claimed missing, was just told cash and that the owner had the actual purse so it WAS handed in. I mentioned 2k as that was around the amount of a crime committed against me not too long ago which the police told me they could do nothing about so assumed that the amount claimed missing must be more than than..which would be bollocks really as next to noone carries actual cash these days and certainly not that much.
No clue how they got my details but they claimed to have cctv of me picking it up, which I now wish I had watched.

Basically, I know nothing besides what they told me. I really should have asked how they got my name and address but I can't really do that now. They asked me if I was there and that which I said yes obviously. Asked if I still had the purse that I found (this is when they mentioned the cctv, of me picking it up) to which I said no. I then explained what had happened. At this stage they told me that the purse had been handed in, the owner had it but was saying that some money was missing from it. I said I knew nothing about that as hadn't opened it, and they got me to sign a notebook that said 'found purse, gave to someone' and then they thanked me and left.

Anything beyond that is supposition and theories and probably my anxiety playing up a lot. Along with trying to theorise whats actually gone on here.

No idea why so many resources have gone into this but IMO they clearly have.

Trollhunt away, thanks for the actual answers to this, both ones saying chill and ones saying its serious. Going back to usual name now that the hole picking has started. All I can say is I fucking wish this was all made up, and why would I post looking for advice and..well comfort in a way..if it wasn't true.

OP posts:
Missingstreetlife · 07/06/2019 11:59

Op I don't think you have the temperament to be a criminal. Stop worrying. If the police want a statement you can get a solicitor to accompany you to the station. Unlikely to come to that.
Outoutout. Stfu.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 07/06/2019 11:59

I've had the experience of my lost purse being handed in with money absentia. It was not amusing.

I have no idea if it was the person who handed it in who took the money, or whether someone had got to it earlier, but either way people do do these things, remove the more expensive items first then hand the missing item, in with only a few quid or redundant cards left inside. Beats me why.

I suspect the police believe you stole it because

  1. You didn't hand it straight in to the closest place despite being in pain
  1. You took a detour to the loo, the one place conveniently absent of CCTV
  1. You passed it to someone you barely know, despite having to walk out of the loo and presumably through the shoping centre to get home anyway.

So from their point of view it looks very suspicious and even you being ill seems incongruous with your decisions.

But relax they can't actually prove anything. All they have is speculation.

Antigon · 07/06/2019 12:05

OP, why are you stressing so much? Do you really think you're going to arrested or charged or something?

There is no law that says you have to get lost property you find to its owner.

I really think you're enjoying the drama on some level. Why would you give the purse to a shopping centre when the person who lost the purse may never have even gone to the shopping centre?! This is all so bizarre.

And there's no harm in opening a purse to check its contents as long as you don't steal anything.

And yes, YABU for deciding not to hand in lost property ever again. That's a childish reaction.

Frownette · 07/06/2019 12:05

You should have really checked the contents of the purse, photographed it on phone, then handed it into the restaurant where you found it. The owner might have come back frantically trying to retrace their steps a short while after looking for it.

It's done now, doubt there would be more police involvement. Just looks dodgy you went off with it.

cranstonmanor · 07/06/2019 12:05

They can't prove if the money was taken before you found it, if you took it, if your acquiantance took it, if the person at the desk took it or half a dozen other people who handled that purse. You are innocent until proven guilty so meh.... they can only ask quwstions really.

CatG85 · 07/06/2019 12:06

basically says handing it in at all is usually not a good thing to do, and you should take other steps to reunite it with its owner. Apparently theres something called 'theft by finding'

I'd stop using google for a start as it will be confusing. Just see what happens. The above sounds strange to me as I found a wallet in a black cab in central London once with over £300 in it but as I was off to a restaurant booking I had to keep it on me until the next day when I handed it in to my local police station miles away from where I found it and from where the person who's wallet it was lived (from their ID). I did try facebook sites too but no luck. Police station told me they would likely reunite it with the owner as it had bank cards etc in but if they hadn't within 3 months they'd call me and it was mine. 3 months later I was £300 up - they'd contacted the owner several times who just wasn't interested in collecting it. Nothing about theft by finding though. Police were really nice about the fact I'd handed it in at all.

bobstersmum · 07/06/2019 12:10

I don't mean any offence here but it looks suspicious because you went into the toilet for admittedly a long time, with the purse.
I left my almost brand new pram in town after putting baby in car seat, I simply drove off and forgot. When I realised and went back it was gone and the police were not interested and the pram was over £500. So I'm very surprised they are interested in this.

Wannabeyorkshirelass · 07/06/2019 12:15

The money was probably taken in the restaurant - pickpocketed, cash taken, wallet dropped. It's happened to me before. The problem is that you then picked it up, didn't hand it in to staff (suspicious), walked off with it, took it to the toilet for a long time (suspicious) and then passed it to someone you 'vaguely recognised' and whose name you barely know. They then handed it in, probably left her details and got an enquiry about the cash so pointed out that she got it from you, presumably telling them you took it to the toilet for ages. The police can't prove anything though (especially as you're not guilty, just look it) and you're just going to have to live with those particular police officers feeling suspicious that you've got away with something.

Coronapop · 07/06/2019 12:33

Frankly your story sounds implausible, but it is unlikely that there is any way of proving who took the money, if the purse owner is telling the truth and money was taken. If you are being honest here then you have nothing to worry about.

Schuyler · 07/06/2019 12:37

Your long winded explanation probably makes you look guilty. Keep factual and straight to the point with the police or if anyone asks.

Morticiaismystyleicon · 07/06/2019 12:44

I agree with Tat. Long, rambling, extremely anxious explanations for seemingly unlikely chains of events usually mean there's some untruth going on. It comes across as someone who has taken a chance having found a purse with a couple of quid in and is now shitting a brick having never done that before. Even if the police do think that it makes no difference, they have to prove it.
I would question why on Earth anyone would take a purse from a very normal place for a purse to be lost, quite easily traceable for the owner, to a local shopping centre? If I'd lost my purse in a restaurant I wouldn't even consider popping to the local shopping centre to see if it was there, the owner may not have been in the centre! Add in the fact you'd physically struggle to do so and would suffer for it it just seems very unbelievable.

AbsolutelyPetrified · 07/06/2019 12:49

OK ended up thinking I changed back to old name but posting on other threads on this one seemingly so before I actually do (and check!) I thought I would address last reply.

I didn't take it from restaurant into the local shpping centre. The restaurant is IN the local shopping centre.

And long rambling posts, are fairly usual for me. Especially when making threads as otherwise, you get accused of dripfeeding when not giving all the details in the OP.

Anyways, it doesn't matter now. Thanks again.

OP posts:
Jux · 07/06/2019 13:21

I imagine that when your friend handed the purse in she was asked for her ID, and maybe the cops asked her where she found the purse so she gave them your name.

qazxc · 07/06/2019 13:40

It is of course possible that the shopping centre security did the CCTV trawl and handed the relevant bits to police, maybe the owner of purse has pull/influence in the shopping centre.

Reallybadidea · 07/06/2019 13:53

When you're extremely anxious your mind goes into overdrive, coming up with wildly unlikely scenarios that you convince yourself could result in you getting into some kind of trouble with authority. It sounds a bit batshit when you try to explain your thought process to someone else.

That's how the OP's posts sound to me.

shrek1978 · 07/06/2019 17:49

I don't buy your story OP, not one bit. If you did take that money, I hope they do come back and arrest you.

TooTrueToBeGood · 07/06/2019 18:07

There is no law that says you have to get lost property you find to its owner.

Maybe not directly but there is a criminal offense of theft by finding. The simple facts are the OP found and took property clearly belonging to somebody else and then gave it to someone she barely knows in what are rather suspicious circumstances. Even if you fully believe her version of events she did not behave reasonably nor, I would argue, legally.

LillithsFamiliar · 07/06/2019 18:21

It's likely there have been other purse/wallet thefts in the shopping centre and that's why they're putting resources into this. My friend works in a shopping centre. When they had a spate of thefts like this, the police even 'spoke' to the members of staff who most regularly handed the empty wallets/purses in.

Fucklt · 08/06/2019 09:48

There is no law that says you have to get lost property you find to its owner.

There is

ConcreteUnderpants · 09/06/2019 13:53

I hope you gave the Police some really strong coffee when giving your statement, OP.

EnidButton · 09/06/2019 14:10

When you're extremely anxious your mind goes into overdrive, coming up with wildly unlikely scenarios that you convince yourself could result in you getting into some kind of trouble with authority. It sounds a bit batshit when you try to explain your thought process to someone else.

This is 100% what's happening here. OP You're tired, in pain and your anxiety has ran away with your imagination and you're too ill to chase after it.

Stop googling. Hide this thread. Get something to eat, try to rest/nap.

Most likely scenarios are money was taken before you picked it up. There wasn't ever any money and the owners are trying it on. The owners are mistaken about the money.

The police will have written all this up by now and filed it away. They aren't bothered about you as it will have been plain that you were telling the truth. There's no need to waste anymore energy on it.

caughtinanet · 09/06/2019 14:10

I've seen a few similar threads like this recently, police turning up at people's doors seeming to be investigating things that they wouldn't normally have time devoted to and usually having found the OP without having any explainable way of doing so.

I cant remember the details but I think they involved car related things - does any one remember if those ones were solved?

Dizzywizz · 10/06/2019 21:11

That sounds odd @caughtinanet, haven’t noticed any of those but sounds intriguing