Anybody else not voting again?

[RomanyQueen1]

Just that, is anybody not voting and didn't vote last time?

it sounds like hellenback voted for Brexit on the one and only time she could be arsed, so quite frankly I'm quite happy if she never votes again...

another lazy assumption.

unfortunately, on the day of the brexit vote i was still in hospital following the late loss of a baby. So i didnt get to vote. please stop making assumptions.

but other people voted and no body got what they wanted. i just do not believe that spoiling the paper says anything.

leaving the thread now because i cant see how insulting me is actually changing my mind.

I will be voting.

But I can't help but think that there is a slight arrogance in 'I'm not voting because no party fully aligns with what I believe' Why would there ever be? Why should it align fully with 'your' views more than 'mine'?

DH and I have moved early meetings and changed nursery pick up time for one day to work put a way we can both vote.

i just do not believe that spoiling the paper says anything

Its not that people aren’t explaining it to you

Its just that you dont agree with their explanation

I think not voting can be a message in itself, whether that’s a message that none of the candidates were appealing or stood for your values

No. If you feel that none of the candidates were appealing or stood for your values, you should go and vote but spoil your ballot paper. Your protest is then noted. You sitting at home is not.

Sorry, pressed send too soon.

I was also about to add it's not people not explaining but that you just don't accept/agree with us. I happen to think you are wrong.

Well what I would say to the OP based on her user name is perhaps you might want to look at parties who have a positive support of Travellers/ Romani culture? That would seem to be Labour currently.

But the MEP elections are basically voting on how the UK wishes to continue in its relationship with Europe, so Labour is only a plus in this case if you want us to deliver Brexit. And given the proportional representation nature of the EU elections, further complicated by how to vote tactically.

As a PP said, no party ever aligns wholly with one's views so it's a matter of finding the one who you can live with. It's arrogant to assume that every whim should or will be catered to by a single party.

I am a lifelong Labour voter but will vote Green or Lib Dem to maximise the chance of an MEP in London who wants to remain.

I'm not happy with Green's stance on Trans rights, but will set this aside if necessary because right now staying in Europe is the bigger issue.

Please vote OP. It does you no favours to not do so, and you are risking passing this apathy on to any children you may have - and they are the people whose futures we are voting for.

@WillardJSTevens I am very interested in politics, politician's will NEVER listen to the electorate, i know we are talking about the EU elections but you look at the state of our country, people suffering on universal credit do politicians care NO, foodbanks NO they don't care, homlessness they dont care, utility company's rip us off do they care NO, have you forgotten the expenses scandal politician's were stealing from the people who put them where they are THE TAXPAYER, i live in Scotland our education, NHS is in a terrible state do politician's care NO because they create the shambles
I will not vote in the EU elections, i have never heard of any of the people on the ballot people, and finally i dont vote to keep people in a cushy job

The ‘you must vote, people died do that you could’ makes me uncomfortable. I rather think that the suffragettes cause enabled me to have a choice, and that choice can include choosing not to vote. I didn’t start to vote till I was in my 40s. I knew nothing about politics or the issues and would have been voting out of ignorance. I feel I’m more informed and do vote now. Perhaps some people feel like this from a very early age. Perhaps some never feel it. I agree that if you don’t vote you can’t then moan about stuff though.

I'm glad that you're engaged enough to vote these days @secondstartotheright and I agree that voting when not clued up about the outcome leads to things like the fuckpuddle that is Brexit, so I'd rather people didn't vote unless they had thought it through. However politicians KNOW that a vast proportion of the elctorate just listen to soundbites and snappy sounding rhetoric, so you can never drop your guard in that respect.
I disagree about your point about Suffragettes though, their victories were so hard won I doubt any of them, when up against such systemic sexism as they experienced (and women still do) would have said 'I'm doing this so that in 100 years people can sit around with a thumb up their arse and say 'thanks for the right to choose not to vote!' women had that already !

I'm voting because unless I change nationality at vast fucking expense and hassle this is the last election I can vote in.

You'd have to be seriously thick and also very isolated not to know how to vote. It's a simple matter and is explained carefully and patiently to those who need it.

I think you seriously underestimate just how fucking stupid some people are.

Spoiling a ballot paper deliberately is stupid, pointless, and meaningless.

I am seriously wondering this time round whether to bother. If I do I will be spoiling my paper.

Maybe there should be a campaign for a box for "none of the above" as they have in some countries.

Is that you Brenda?

In the European referendum, of registered voters roughly 37% voted leave, 35% to remain and 28% did not vote. It is the non-votes who experience voter regret most strongly.
Not voting makes a big difference to how this country is represented and governed.

I am voting. Primarily to help keep the brexit party out/reduce their share of the vote.

The idea of not voting doesn’t sit right with me as then it helps the party you least what in really.

You'd have to be seriously thick and also very isolated not to know how to vote. It's a simple matter and is explained carefully and patiently to those who need it.

What a bitchy comment, so awful.
i usually vote labour, but tbh, this careful explanation of voting which you seem to know about is news to me. I hear lots of bollocks and lies being told by Politicians who couldn't give a shit about us, if that's what you mean.

Anyway as a seriously thick person with a very low IQ, you should be pleased I'm not voting. I can't see much intelligence coming from your post and I bet you have a high IQ

What a bitchy comment, so awful.
i usually vote labour, but tbh, this careful explanation of voting which you seem to know about is news to me. I hear lots of bollocks and lies being told by Politicians who couldn't give a shit about us, if that's what you mean

I took pp to mean that the act of voting - putting a cross in only one box - is simple, thus very few people accidentally spoil a ballot!

I, too, will be voting although no for the party that I’m a member of.

Voting should be compulsory. It’s your duty to vote as it affects all of our lives to a greater or lesser extent. It takes 10 mins out of your day. Just do it

Oh no it shouldn’t

Apologies to the pp if it isn't what they meant

No it shouldn't be compulsory, I do vote and have done so more often than I haven't.
I didn't vote in the referendum and I won't on Thursday, even though I live in a Labour area, that will always be labour, I still usually vote in local and general elections.

I can't believe the irony that you have, at the same time as this thread, started another thread, being horrified at the lack of care society gives to 'Care Leavers'. You are absolutely right that the situation is terrible, and that is exactly what you should be contacting MPs and political parties about. That is Exactly what politics is.
I don't think any party has ever matched my thinking on all subject areas, but every time there is an election, I look into the policies and promises / manifestos / stance of the candidates on things that are important to me, and vote accordingly.
There are figures quoted about how many letters or e-mails an MP (or candidate) gets about an issue, and at what point they start to take notice. If something upsets you - contact your MP about it. Ask them what they are doing about it. Depending on the response, then that will help you know how to vote.

Look up the figures if you don't trust other posters on here - the people who don't vote could make a massive difference to the political picture if they did vote.

Almost 60 and this is the first time I'm not voting. None of them represent the people any more. I am disgusted with the lot of them.

I feel politically homeless and don't know what to do.

I’m not voting. I don’t care about the outcome