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Its Archie Harrison!! Mountbatten

281 replies

MissQuad · 08/05/2019 16:42

Wow that's a different name for a Royal

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Quartz2208 · 08/05/2019 20:52

Ajandjmum nonsense if they had wanted him to have one the Queen would if not simply because one her death he becomes entitled to one as the grandson of the monarch
It’s far more likely they are following a princess anne having seen how much better it’s been for Zara and Peter

englishdictionary · 08/05/2019 20:54

H & M didn't choose not to give Archie a title, he's not entitled to one. At this point, it would be the Queen's decision, and she's obviously decided against.

All the news articles I have read are saying the opposite, that it's Harry & Meghan who have decided not to use a title.

The80sweregreat · 08/05/2019 21:12

The nod to Mountbatten is nice too. Good call.

Dandelion1993 · 08/05/2019 21:13

It's an awful name.

ivykaty44 · 08/05/2019 21:22

Mountbatten is part of the surname they are going to choose to use then?

The80sweregreat · 08/05/2019 21:25

I also know a Lena and she is lovely!

At least Archie can call himself ' Arch' which is a bit ' edgy' and cooler. ( When he becomes a hot shot actor with royal connections in
18 years time. )His also a Taurus so I predict a head strong type who will do his own thing! Never mess with the bull star sign!

PortiaCastis · 08/05/2019 21:29

As posted ndns child is an Archie and is a nice little person with good manners

Parker231 · 08/05/2019 21:31

@ajandjjmum - why would the position change when Charles becomes King? Peter and Zara Philips are grandchildren of the Monarch but have no title as their parents didn’t want them to have one.

QueenOfTheAndals · 08/05/2019 21:39

Children take their titles from their fathers. Mark Phillips didn't have one. Had Anthony Armstrong-Jones not been made an earl then
Princess Margaret's children wouldn't have had titles either.

bumblingbovine49 · 08/05/2019 21:41

I.am obviously really out of step. Not overly keen on Archie though it is fine. I think it is fine for children and older men but lava bit of gravitas in adulthood/middle age Grin.

But here is where I really differ from most on here it seems. I like Harrison.

bumblingbovine49 · 08/05/2019 21:42

Lacks , not lava. Sigh!

theliverpoolone · 08/05/2019 21:59

I think they're lovely names, good for them. And if Archie is as 'common' as people on here are making out, well Harry and Meghan won't know that, will they, given the circles they mix in. They probably think they've chosen something unique Wink

GlamGiraffe · 08/05/2019 22:08

Choosing a "normal" name is never going to make them normal like us though. They are choosing a name for their child which is also supported by and almost seen as partly belonging to the British public so they probably shouldn't do anything too wild if they want to continue being in favour.

I cannot understand why they've called him Harrison, it's not a proper Christian name in the UK where they live. Prince George could have been Wilson(wills son) to match the theme!😂

ElektraLOL · 08/05/2019 22:23

I read that baby Sussex will be raised in a similar way to Serena Williams and Amal Clooney's kids. They very clearly want to take a step away from it all.

MindyStClaire · 08/05/2019 22:26

Camilla is the Princess of Wales, she just chooses to use the lesser title of Duchess of Cornwall, for obvious reasons.

Similarly, Edward's children are a technically a prince and princess, but use the lower titles of Viscount Severn and Lady Louise which are the titles of the children of the Earl of Wessex.

I think Archie is technically Lord Archie, they're just choosing not to use it.

Good for them, although it seems a bit weird that the seventh in kind to the throne is just Master when there's so many other Lords and Ladies knocking around!

marylou1977 · 08/05/2019 22:30

I guess the next baby will be Jughead.

Tavannach · 08/05/2019 23:06

Yeah, that Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, rough as fuck.

Grin
lyralalala · 09/05/2019 02:13

Although Duke and duchess are not higher titles than Prince
Charles's title is HRH Prince Charles, The Prince Of Wales, Duke of Cornwell
Camilla's is HRH Camilla, Duchess of Cornwell

Camilla's official title mirrors her husbands exactly. Charles is His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Earl of Chester, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew

Camilla is HRH The Princess Charles, Princess of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall, Countess of Chester etc etc.

She is just styled as HRH The Duchess of Cornwall. Just as in Scotland she and Charles are styled as TRH The Duke and Duchess of Rothesay

William's is HRH Prince William of Wales, Duke of Cambridge
Catherine's is HRH Princess William, Catherine the Duchess of Cambridge

Catherine's name doesn't feature in her title. She's just HRH Princess William, Duchess of Cambridge. Her own name won't feature in her title until she is Queen consort, or she gets divorced.

Harry's is HRH Prince Henry (Harry) Of Wales, Duke of Sussex
Meghans is Meghan, Duchess of Sussex

Meghan is HRH Prince Henry, Duchess of Sussex. Same as Catherine.

George and Louis are prince name of wales
Charlotte is princess charlotte or wales

The Cambridge children use HRH Prince/ss X of Cambridge. William and Harry were Wales because their father was POW. Legally they have no surname so George is simply HRH Prince George. They just 'need' a surname occasionally so use their father's Dukedom.

Archie could have been Earl of Dumbarton or Lord Archie Windsor and then HRH Prince Archie of Sussex when Charles becomes King.

However, the use of Mountbatten-Windsor suggests they've chosen no title at all because that is the surname for the descendents of the Queen and Prince Philip who carry no title. Even though Louise's birth used Mountbatten-Windsor surname when she is being referred to by title she is Lady Louise Windsor. It looks like they've decided on no title for him either now or in the future with the M-W choice

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 09/05/2019 06:05

Ok, lyra my point was they havent chosen ti use the "higher" titles of Duke and Duchess as a PP said, because apart from king and queen, and queen/priness and prince consort, you can't get any higher than prince and princess.

They just use their duchey names more commonally. I actually didnt realise Camila had chosen not to use her princess title i thought i remembered that there was a bit of a fuss about it not being given to her. Ie the queen had not given it to her because of public pressure. I actually don't mind camilla so found it sad that she wasn't given thw title, so glad she does have it, sad she doesn't use it because of public oppinion. (I just don't fall for the previous incumbants hype,, in fact i think pretty much the oppisite of what the media tell us to think of her)

I thought catherine and meghan did feature in their titles because of their duchey names. Ie they were just maghan, duchess of sussex or catherine duchess of cambridge, it was only when they were using the of wales bit they were princess william/henry

Parker231 · 09/05/2019 06:24

@GlamGiraffe - Harrison is a popular name in America (it’s my nephews name) and as this baby is half American with the right to a US passport, it’s not unusual.

lyralalala · 09/05/2019 08:01

They just use their duchey names more commonally. I actually didnt realise Camila had chosen not to use her princess title i thought i remembered that there was a bit of a fuss about it not being given to her. Ie the queen had not given it to her because of public pressure. I actually don't mind camilla so found it sad that she wasn't given thw title, so glad she does have it, sad she doesn't use it because of public oppinion. (I just don't fall for the previous incumbants hype,, in fact i think pretty much the oppisite of what the media tell us to think of her)

The fuss at the time was people thinking she shouldn’t be given it, but the wife of the Prince of Wales is automatically the Princess of Wales so it’s just how she’s styled that she uses Duchess of Cornwall to make her more palatable to the public at the time.

With Catherine and Meghan their names are never included. Only royal/blood Princesses, Queens and Queen consorts use their first names automatically. Other than that it’s divorcees or people given permission by the Queen like Princess Alice.

They are styled as HRH the Duchess of Cambridge or HRH the duchess of Sussex, their own names don’t feature,

Also Catherine and Megan have never been ‘of Wales’. William and Harry stopped being ‘of wales’ when they got their own titles, except for they both kept them until they finished their military/air job at the time (which was prob just because that’s what everyone was used too). They’d be HRH Princess William or HRH Princess William of Cambridge, but not of Wales.

TheRedBarrows · 09/05/2019 08:22

Harry is a common name ( as in popular)
Meghan is a common name (as in popular)
And for everyone sneering about it being common and expecting something more trad / ‘royal’,
George, James Alexander and all the similar names trotted out as possibles on MN are also REALLY COMMON (as in popular).

Such snobbery here.

Archie, Alfie type names were re-introduced as cute /unusual middle class names. (Now more likely Stan, Arthur etc) Then when they get adopted more widely and by non middle class families everyone slags then off.

People have different tastes. Snotty and horrid to sneer at other’s choices.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 09/05/2019 08:24

The fuss at the time was people thinking she shouldn’t be given it, but the wife of the Prince of Wales is automatically the Princess of Wales so it’s just how she’s styled that she uses Duchess of Cornwall to make her more palatable to the public at the time

No the fuss i remember and still see on various admitadly fairly low brow media sources is that she's definately not the princess of wales (although according to them catherine shouldn't be the priness of wales either ... apparently only 'saint' diana is allowed that title). Which lead me to believe that she hadn't been given the title.

But i'm happy to stand corrected on her title

ajandjjmum · 09/05/2019 08:45

Lyra has explained beautifully the situation - and the actual protocol, rather than what people - including some press - seem to think!

Just to clarify Parker231 - when Charles becomes King, Harry's children will be entitled to a promotion in title, as their father will be the son of the Monarch. Whether they choose to use it at the time, will be up to Harry and Meghan. Anne's children have no titles, as their father does not. Edward and Sophie have chosen not to use the titles which their DC are entitled to, as he is the son of the Monarch.

happyhillock · 09/05/2019 10:05

Princess Anne chose not to have title's for her children, Edward's children have Lady Louise and Viscount Severn, i never understood why Andrew's daughter's were given the title's of Princess's they never had to do anything for the country, yet a few year's back Andrew wanted them to receive an annual income from the country, what the hell for? Doing Nothing..