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Women who don’t wear makeup, what do you honestly think about women who do?

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ifigoup · 07/05/2019 19:42

I wear makeup every day apart from rare days when I’m not going to be leaving the house at all. In my line of work, it’s more common for women not to wear makeup than to wear it, and I often wonder what those women who don’t wear it think of me. (I have almost zero interest in what men think about women’s choices of makeup, dress etc.)

When I see women not wearing makeup, I occasionally think, “Gosh, she looks a bit tired”, or “Her skin looks a bit sore”, but my overwhelming thought is either nothing whatsoever, or vague jealousy at women who can put their public “work” selves on without feeling the need to wear makeup.

I don’t wear super-heavy makeup, but you’d definitely know I was wearing it: I like a 50s style with winged eyeliner etc., and sometimes bright lipstick. It’s part of my “look”, and I feel a bit naked without it.

That said, I do realise it’s not unproblematic that I feel unfinished without it on. It bothers me that I know I objectively look better with it (because if I ever don’t wear my signature eyeliner, for example, people always ask if I’m feeling ill). It bothers me that men are allowed to look as shit and haggard as they like and nobody suggests they should pretty themselves up, yet women who look shit and haggard often become objects of pity.

If you’re a woman who never or rarely wears makeup, what do you think of women who always do? My assumption is that you either don’t care, or that you probably feel a bit sorry for us for having to put “war paint” on to face the world. Or maybe you feel like women who wear makeup are a bit superficial.

But am I wrong? Do you actually feel intimidated, or suspect makeup wearers are judging you for not wearing it? Or something else entirely?

(I know this sounds a bit like stuff a journo would ask, but I promise I’m not the Daily Mail and am just curious in my own right.)

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Happyspud · 09/05/2019 10:23

I don’t judge women for it but I do feel sad that society has made women think it’s a good thing or worse, necessary. Look at men. Do they need it or do they get to just look good tidy and clean. It makes me angry that we are expected to waste our time, money and self esteem on stuff that is really based on making money out of us.

GilmoreMe · 09/05/2019 11:03

I dont judge anyone for wearing make up and i dont really think anything about them but there are a few things I wonder...
Where do they find the time and does it need redoing throughout the day? Seems like far too much hassle.
I also wonder if it makes people's skin feel 'trapped' in very hot weather.
How much does it all cost? Does it have a use by date as such.
And when people wear very heavy make up every day, why did they start? What made them need to start covering up? I can see once it's started and it becomes a persons look it must be very hard to stop. There are a few ladies I know who must, I imagine, look like a completely different person with no make up.
I don't wear any make up on a day to day basis. I might put some mascara on and some lip vaseline if I'm feeling fancy. I'm also aware that I would probably look less tired and haggard if I knew how to apply a little every day.

floribunda18 · 09/05/2019 12:28

The thing is, I exercise, cook healthy food and look after myself, about all of which people have said at times "How do you find the time?" I can see how it is easy to not find the time, but with anything you really want to do it's a question of priorities and organisation, and most people can actually reorganise their lifestyle to fit things in, if they want to.

Fitting in five to ten minutes before work to put make up on is easier than finding time to do something for half an hour or an hour or more, it's really one of the easier things in my life to find time for. But I can understand if people don't want to, that's fine.

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purplelass · 09/05/2019 12:31

Do you actually feel intimidated, or suspect makeup wearers are judging you for not wearing it? Or something else entirely?

Why should I feel intimidated? I don't get that...

I very rarely bother with make up and unless someone has done something amazingly artistic with theirs I don't even notice who does / doesn't wear it.

GarlicGrace · 09/05/2019 19:24

That was a really entertaining read, CountFosco! Thanks for the link.

I thought he looked really pretty on Day 5 (ghastly on Day 4!) Pretty might not be a usual descriptor for a man, but it fits here - and we have no qualms about calling, say, Japanese boy pop stars pretty. I liked it.

I'm old enough to have been a grown-up during the 80s and 90s, when younger men in the UK did wear makeup. My first husband used concealer, mascara and liner daily, and would do a full face when we went out in the evenings. Since there are now limited ranges of cosmetics "for men", I suspect more of the guys you see are wearing makeup than you think - it's just that now they stick to the subtly enhancing variety, rather than strong colours & shapes.

flameycakes · 09/05/2019 19:37

My make up consists of eyeliner, mascara, foundation, a decent moisturizer and lip salve, I used to have tons of the stuff till I realized I never really used any of it. Think I'd feel naked without my mascara if I had to make a choice though x

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 09/05/2019 19:47

I did once work with a woman who got up at 5:30 am every day to spend two hours dressing and doing hair and makeup before work. It wasn’t time well spent. She had crispy hair, orange foundation an inch thick, was coated in fake tan, and looked just incredibly overdone. And she didn’t need it, she was just terribly, terribly insecure. Inevitably a work night out would end up with her drunk and crying and her husband having to collect her and get her home. She really did wear her makeup as armour against the world.

3in4years · 09/05/2019 20:47

I don't understand the logistics.
What happens if you get too hot or exercise? Does it come off with sweat? Do you carry it around with you to reapply? Do you wear it every day and ig not, when can you go without? Do you feel ugly on those days? Does it cost a lot? Do you wear suncream in Summer? How do you wash your face? Does it rub off on clothes or when you cuddle kids...
I think it seems impractical and I do wonder if someone I only ever see in make-up is less secure and less spontaneous. This probably isn't true but it seems... complicated!

HeronLanyon · 09/05/2019 20:50

I would hate not to be able to rub my eye or touch my face or lick my lips etc for fear of messing up make up ! As for that silly hand flapping near eyes rather than just having a cry or drying your eye - don’t even get me started Hmm

GarlicGrace · 09/05/2019 21:01

While wondering how anybody doesn't know such things, here for 3in4:
Yes, it melts or slides off.
Yes, you carry it around with you.
No, it doesn't have to cost much. A full face could be anything from £10 to £500 depending on brands.
Most foundation contains sunscreen, and sunscreen can be used as a base.
You wash your face with face wash or use cleansing lotion/cream/wipes.
Yes, it rubs off on fabrics.

How did you manage not to know anything at all about makeup? Are you female?? Confused

3in4years · 09/05/2019 22:04

Sorry, yes I am female and I do wear make up. Just not much and not every day. I find it feels dirty and I want to wash it off but wondered how that works if you feel the need to always wear it.

Isitmybathtimeyet · 10/05/2019 07:31

How did you manage not to know anything at all about makeup? Are you female??

Given that this is a thread full of female posters who don’t wear make up, I think this question is plain rude.

LizziesTwin · 10/05/2019 07:34

I couldn’t care less whether someone is wearing make up or not. I do some days & don’t others. I don’t like some people’s eyebrow styling but all that means is that I don’t adopt that fashion.

BertieBotts · 10/05/2019 08:11

£10 a DAY? Fuck that.

BertieBotts · 10/05/2019 08:14

I didn't know most of that :o Why would you know about make up if it doesn't interest you?

Lweji · 10/05/2019 08:28

How did you manage not to know anything at all about makeup? Are you female??

Indeed. It's like cleaning and cooking knowledge. It's genetic. Grin

CornishMaid1 · 10/05/2019 08:45

I know little about make-up and am definitely female.

I vary between none and a bit of powder, mascara and maybe lipstick if I'm going out (plus concealer if I have a spot).

I don't judge people who wear a 'normal' amount of make-up or none. Mostly I don't actually notice. The only time I will notice is if there is a big change - I worked with someone who wore heavy make-up and one day did not wear any and the difference was quite shocking.

I couldn't be bothered with it all. The idea of spending a lot of time in the morning and evening putting it on and taking it off is just not a priority for me. Thereagain, I grew up with a mum who never really wore make-up so didn't 'learn' about it or have any inclination to try.

PowerBadgersUnite · 10/05/2019 08:47

Is there a makeup test they do at birth to determine gender I somehow missed? Because I am apparently female and, having never worn makeup, know absolutely nothing at all about it. Confused

bluebluezoo · 10/05/2019 08:49

How did you manage not to know anything at all about makeup? Are you female?? confused

I’m female and didn’t know the answers to those questions either.

Also, how do you manage in hot weather/ on holiday? You say you can get foundation with sunscreen, but I need factor 50+. Can you get foundation of that spf?

You say it melts/slides off/rubs off- again how do you keep your spf on? What if you want a dip in the pool or sea? Is it water resistant as well.

Funnily enough never having used make up on a daily basis I never think about this stuff. This may mean I am not female as being born knowing about make up appears to define female more than having a vagina or xx chromosomes.

No wonder people are getting confused.

BareGrylls · 10/05/2019 08:51

I think if it's a night out and it's subtle or dramatic winged eyes on someone very beautiful I think nothing of it.
Honestly? People with full face make up during the day, I think they are probably vain.
I hate the feel of makeup, it makes my face feel dirty and on the rare occasion that I wear it I can't wait to wash it off.

KeepingTheWormsQuiet · 10/05/2019 09:09

I don't wear make-up and I do think that women who have to wear a lot of it are a bit insecure.

I live in a well-off area where women generally don't wear piles of obvious make-up and I saw a woman in the supermarket caked in make-up with the "slug" eyebrows. She was about 20 and naturally pretty under all that crap and I thought it was a shame that she'd made herself look worse with horrible makeup.

I used to know a woman, who was naturally pretty, but very insecure and keen to be attractive to men. She thought she was ugly without make-up and wore way too much bronzer. I remember her once sitting with a group of us wearing sunglasses indoors because she was convinced that we'd find her too ugly to sit with without make-up on. Another time I saw her and thought "wow, she looks really pretty today". It turned out that she was ill and NOT wearing make-up.

BlueSkiesLies · 10/05/2019 09:11

I don’t judge women for it but I do feel sad that society has made women think it’s a good thing or worse, necessary. Look at men. Do they need it or do they get to just look good tidy and clean. It makes me angry that we are expected to waste our time, money and self esteem on stuff that is really based on making money out of us

Absolutely this.

3in4years · 10/05/2019 09:11

Not just me who struggles with the logistics then!

Micah · 10/05/2019 09:12

Honestly? People with full face make up during the day, I think they are probably vain

Really? I wouldn’t think vanity, I’d wonder why they felt the need to cover up their natural face. Some of it is social pressure I think- that image of women presenting as glossy, smooth creatures with perfectly framed eyebrows, cheekbones and lips.

The implication that if you don’t wear make up you don’t care about your looks, aren’t presenting as “properly” female (see above)- or are some butch lesbian.

I remember a friend of mine years ago going for a sales job. Didn’t get it, and the feedback was specifically make up related- she needed to use foundation and x and y product to present a “look” the company felt would be taken seriously. The irony? The job was scientific equipment sales.

It’s like the current HD eyebrow thing, i look at it and think wtaf. How can someone look in the mirror and think that improves their face? It has to be a trend/fashion thing. Plus instagram.

So generally- if it’s daily make up, the whole “subtle enhancement” thing I’ wonder why they felt the need for such enhancement.

RuffleCrow · 10/05/2019 09:14

"Women, divide yourselves into ever decreasing and more divisive sub categories so that we, your patriarchal overlords may more easily control you".

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