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The petition to get chris packham sacked

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Whisky2014 · 25/04/2019 20:01

Wtf is this shit?

"87,866 Supporters
BBC to sack Chris Packham
As an employee of the BBC, Chris Packham should remain impartial and keep his views and beliefs to himself however, he is the face of many anti hunting campaigns and uses his celeb status as a platform to push his anti hunting agenda, he has made his goal to ban all kinds of hunting, and country sports and pursuits and I feel he is no longer fit to work for the BBC"

How about David Attenborough then? From this person's logic he should also be sacked Confused

OP posts:
Doggydoggydoggy · 27/04/2019 14:17

I am a big Chris Packham fan.

I would expect anyone presenting a programme to have views in line with that programme so I would definately expect CP to hold the views he does.

I think the petition is disgusting.

I also view game keepers and farmers with a smidge of suspicion when it comes to ‘conservation’ and ‘protecting livestock’.

So many of our creatures, many of them actually vital to humanity itself, are in serious decline.

We need to start getting along with each other and finding ways to co exist with more annoying creatures instead of killing them.

Emma8707 · 27/04/2019 15:15

PickwickThePlockingDodo 😂 I know! I can’t believe I even had to explain that to be honest, and this person is trying to tell me how a vegetable grows! Oh dear, just so patronising.

Back to Packham, i’m very glad he will remain in his job, the petition won’t lose him his job, although I have signed the petition to ‘save him’ just to show some support 😁

MockerstheFeManist · 27/04/2019 15:41

ihatethecold Thu 25-Apr-19 20:09:22
The BBC sack no one ever.

And so I repeat:

The BBC sacked Bill Oddie from Springwatch and replaced him with Chris Packham.

Farmmum7 · 27/04/2019 15:46

I have worked in a wildlife rescue centre and in farming so I have seen both sides and once upon a time I would have loved Chris Packham and I would have enjoyed watching winter/spring watch but I can't say I agree with his views or enjoy watching him at all anymore so I have signed the petition to have him sacked I don't like the man or his views.

I don't agree however with aimlessly killing everything I use preventative measures first and foremost to protect my livestock and pest control is then a last resort.

Not all of us want everything to die you can assume as a meat eater and a farmer that I am a savage that rips lambs from their mothers but you don't know me or my farm. I'd actually encourage anyone locally that would want to know both sides of the argument to come to the farm and see for themselves the reality of farming not to convince them to eat meat or kill anything but to show them that we aren't the murderous savages we are perceived as and that we are conscious of preserving the ecology of the area and the wildlife in it

Doggydoggydoggy · 27/04/2019 16:09

I don’t necessarily think farmers/gamekeepers are ‘murderous savages’ although I do think they have been largely responsible for the steep decline in many birds of prey and I also think they have unintentionally contributed to the decline of many other non target species through use of pesticides and monoculture.

I would argue that perhaps the reason why we are seeing issues with Corvid predation is because we have upset the balance, taken away a lot of habitat, drastically reduced numbers of some species and increased others.
Perhaps if this had not have happened corvid predation would be a very rare and occasional thing.

I don’t personally believe anything requires ‘management’, I think if you are having problems that indicates that things are not in balance and left alone will sort itself out eventually.

In the meantime, I don’t really see why lambs can’t be kept indoors a little longer and why farmers couldn’t use bird scarers, possibly in conjunction with guardian dogs like Anatolians, Maremma and the likes rather than shooting to try and reduce the problem.

FoxSquadKitten · 27/04/2019 16:16

Well said Doggy 👏🏻

WindypopsWendy · 27/04/2019 16:17

At least he cares about all animals not just the fluffy cuddly ones.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 27/04/2019 16:31

Sometimes choices have to be made and they are not easy or even nice choices, but they do have to be made.

The birds are killed to protect crops, the crops which are eaten by us. If there is a shortage of crops we would have to import more from other countries which would then have a bigger impact on the environment.

Teacakeandalatte · 27/04/2019 16:37

An informative article about this in New Scientist www.newscientist.com/article/2200822-have-people-in-the-uk-really-been-banned-from-shooting-wood-pigeons/

NameChangeNugget · 27/04/2019 16:47

Thanks for posting.

Signed

Farmmum7 · 27/04/2019 16:50

We lamb our sheep outdoors during the springtime and not indoors. We haven't actually had any lambs killed or taken this year by foxes or crows we did have one killed by a seagull though. We put out radios and lights to deter predators at nighttime and try to be as present in the lambing fields as possible to make sure everything is ok. Generally after the lamb is up and has no problems they are ok it's when a sheep is busy lambing a twin or if the lamb is a bit slow to get up that the crows will take advantage and swoop in. If they are a little slow getting up that's when we bring them in and after a night or two return them to the flock or to a smaller paddock outside the house. We personally haven't shot anything this year and we know the foxes are around we have seen them on our wildlife cameras so our deterents must be working.

There are crows on the farm too we have several feeders around the farm for the wild pheasants and garden birds occasionally we have a kestrel come and take the odd bird from the garden feeder so they are around too. We have put up bird boxes, bat boxes, insect hotels, hedgehog houses, frog houses and an owl box to encourage wildlife. We have also seen lizards basking in our stone walls, musk beetles on a tree in one of the paddocks and there's a bog up the hill that is always full of frogspawn in the spring we don't just look after the fluffy animals there's plenty of space for everything we don't spray chemicals on our fields or use chemical fertilizer we use horse and poultry manure on the garden and pigs to turn over the ground for the next vegetable plot whilst feeding them any excess vegetables from the garden. Occasionally we shoot a fox, a mink or a crow for killing our poultry or lambs but we would only do that as a last resort generally we encourage wildlife onto the farm.

Doggydoggydoggy · 27/04/2019 16:52

Sometimes choices have to be made and they are not easy or even nice choices, but they do have to be made

The birds are killed to protect crops, the crops which are eaten by us. If there is a shortage of crops we would have to import more from other countries which would then have a bigger impact on the environment

Corvids and other predatory birds are being killed to protect livestock, not crops.

With birds that damage crops, pigeons for example, I think the same argument still applies.

The numbers of plants that pigeons naturally eat have been altered leaving them less choice and the numbers of animals that would have eaten the pigeons have been altered.

The trend for entire fields of the same crop is a godsend for animals that like to eat them and encourages disease/pest insects hence the need for chemical control.

Fields should be mixed planted with emphasis on providing habitat for all creatures.

Pest creatures are a symptom of a problem not the actual problem in my opinion.

And in the point of not enough crop space, there is a huge amount of wastage in this country, land that is owned but never built or farmed on, huge expanses of houses owned but forever unoccupied, empty buildings that could be utilised as housing but left empty.

I remain unconvinced that there is actually a need to build on any more land.

I also think that instead of Astro turfing everywhere and cramming gardens full of flowers, largely sterile and ornamental a lot of the time, with little no wildlife value people should try and grow at least a little food and we should do more ‘community gardens’ and allotments.

hellenbackagen · 28/04/2019 14:41

And what doggy said .

BigStripeyBastard · 28/04/2019 17:21

Christ.... we stand here, heatedly arguing over which creatures we can justifiably kill to meet our own selfish ends. The pests that this planet needs fewer of are us. It's all about us, isn't it.
I'm glad I chose not to have children because this world is fast becoming a bloody sorry place to live in.

Shelby2010 · 28/04/2019 18:45

Well I’m just relieved because I misread one of the early posts and thought someone had hung dead COWS up on his gate!

I think he should be allowed his views and really the really most of the arguments against him don’t wash...

‘We have to kill the crows, otherwise they might kill the lambs... before they are sent to the slaughter house.’
‘We have to protect the game chicks until someone pays to shoot them.’

Emma8707 · 28/04/2019 19:59

BigStripeyBastard Exactly!! This is what I’ve been trying to say and all I’ve had in response is patronising comments about being vegan. How ridiculous it is to blame a crow for so many things when people can’t see what damage humans are causing

VeryLittleOwl · 29/04/2019 18:26

That'll be the same Chris Packham who 10 years ago was loudly saying we should let giant pandas go extinct. He does have some fairly odd views.

Hill farming area here, my neighbours on one side lost their first five lambs to corvids this year, neighbours on the other side have lost 10 in total. Eyes and tongues pecked out and sometimes still alive :( And these are in the in-bye fields, within the village, next to houses, they're not lambing out on the exposed hill.

Doggydoggydoggy · 29/04/2019 20:17

I agree about the pandas unfortunately.
If there isn’t enough land to sustain them it is indeed pointless, cruel even, to release them.
Humans should hang their heads in shame for what they have done.

hellenbackagen · 29/04/2019 20:23

Sadly I also agree reluctantly about pandas. Long term survival is so unlikely for them and while I think they are beautiful it's man keeping them going .

I've bought Twitter just to follow him. He's a breath of fresh air.

Teacakeandalatte · 29/04/2019 21:28

Chris is now auctioning off a piece of rude artwork he got left on his doorstep www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chris-Packhams-Two-Headed-Tadpole-Excellent-condition/382926130934?fbclid=IwAR2IdXfK-yOREq30gvELNUDTC_1mAJ7gJyVMjbOTrICVhuLOcpGZgPt6aHI&redirect=mobile

KateyKube · 29/04/2019 21:31

Chris Packham is entitled to his views. Regardless of whether I agree with him, I will defend his right to hold his own views. Otherwise where does the censorship end? The scare tactics used by those who oppose him are bullying, plain and simple. They’re trying to scare him into silence. Disgusting.

FoxSquadKitten · 29/04/2019 22:32

I also agree about the pandas.

Can I ask everyone who likes Chris Packham to bid on the 'two-headed tadpole' artwork linked above by Tea and lets wind up the scumbag fuckers who delivered it and the dead crows to his door
All funds will go to 'Wild Justice' 😂

powershowerforanhour · 30/04/2019 01:16

The pests that this planet needs fewer of are us.
Well we can all top ourselves or make the best of a bad job, not have too many children on average, and try to feed ourselves.

FoxSquadKitten · 30/04/2019 13:33

The 'artwork' is now up to £2350 on ebay 😁