Has anyone been entitled to good tax credits then no UC?

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This has just happened to us. There goes being able to pay bills

Just found the old Frothers Twitter account.

twitter.com/TMC_Frothers

Posted this yesterday on the linked thread.

The Pension Service wrote to us today to let us know what changes in circumstances would put my 69 year old husband and i over to UC

*if you leave "Great" Britain for more than 4 consecutive weeks
*if your household income or savings increase.
*if you or your partner move out of your home.
*if you move home into a new local authority area.
*if your or your partners entitlement to another benefit ends.

The letter is in regards to Housing Benefit.

Im guessing there will be less couples in our situation willing to risk a move to sheltered housing now so wont be freeing up social housing any time soon!

So you will get a lot of pensioners now too scared to move into sheltered housing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1409311-To-be-very-scared-at-the-details-of-the-Universal-tax-credit?pg=1

A warning from two years ago.

speye.wordpress.com/2017/03/15/universal-credit-means-the-pensioner-bedroom-tax-and-24-billion-added-welfare-cost/

also from two years ago.

HelenaDove Thu 16-Mar-17 01:17:30

Just saw this comment on fb.

"The older generation are the ones with the largest number of secure tenancies. They are worth £billions and this is what the capitalists want to get their hands on. Knowing that they had secure tenancies and there was no legal way to evict them they, have gone for the cruelest option of starving them out"

Fuck me, I'm gonna have to work till I die! Fortunately a ' no deal' brexit will see me off, because as I'm type1 diabetic! Ffs! I'm sorry for you helena

Hope this help I'm already on universal credit

^^

Have you actually applied for UC? Because I've just spent ages putting all our details in to entitledto and it's told me we don't qualify for anything. But actually, we get over £100 in UC every month, despite our joint income being over 35k. We never would have got tax creds, but have been receiving UC for nearly 2 years now with no problems.

@Myusernameismud my entitled to calculation was wrong too

I think people are seriously panicking when they look at that site, and they needn't be.
I'm happy to post our calculations if anyone wants a little more idea of how it works. It's much more generous than Tax credits in most situations.

I have no clue how it works but it sounds shit.

Yes we have applied and we have been told we don't qualify. We had been getting £170 a week tax credits.

The main difference has been that tax credits discounted student loans as income however UC includes them

Why did you apply rather than staying in tax credits?

It’s been scaring the shit out of us for a while. Self employed, both of us. Things are shit, but we can’t risk finding another job because it will trigger UC. How crap is that.
No it won’t trigger a UC claim.

Sorry that was to @gluteustothemaximus

We were forced to due to a change in circumstances

helena I was a Frother. I've still got the letters to various MP's saved on my laptop. For what good they did .

Did you need to claim housing costs op there are not many change of circumstances that trigger a UC claim.

@youngmammy what you get in UC is a lot less than what you would have got in tax credits. I 20 per week earning £170pw. I get £140pw in tax credits plus £25pw housing benefit and £20pw child benefit. That's almost £800 per month. That's nearly double what you get in UC.

BitchQueen90 that's not true in every situation. UC is very dependant on individual circumstances and in some cases is far more generous than TC ever was.

UC does class some things as income that Tax Credits doesn't (student loans, for example). Also savings will affect UC childcare component when it didn't affect TC. This will shaft a lot of working families to the point one will have to stop working. How is that 'making work pay'?

MyDcAreMarvel I thought it was triggered by a change in circumstances, so if you go from self employed to employed, that's a change?

Kit we are ok at the moment. The Pension Service letters have told us what will trigger a change. the whole thing in general is ludicrous though. i can envisage irate pensioners in Job Centres though I cant see them staying quiet when their younger partners start getting sanctioned for dubious reasons..

And yes the no deal Brexit is another shitstorm

This is very common.