Which UK politician (past or present) do you feel the most visceral hatred towards right now?

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Me: 1. David Cameron although of course it is a very close run thing with 2. Boris Johnson and 3. Nigel Farage - nuff said.

1. Jeremy Corbyn - but actually I can't bring myself to hate him all that much for not putting up a strong Labour campaign against Brexit because he never pretended he was a Remainer himself. He is and always has been pro-Brexit from a different angle. He probably shouldn't have been elected leader in the first place.

I've voted Labour in the GE for the entirety of my voting life (since 1983) but at this moment I don't actually feel any anger towards Theresa May - I rather grudgingly admire her. She knows her time as leader is short lived. I have yet to see anyone saying anything tangible about how they could have done it better!

Dh and I are both passionate, passionate Remainers. But we can't support a second vote - it will result in the most horrendous civil unrest! Anyone who thinks the 48% who voted to leave the EU will just quietly accept a different result from a second referendum is deluded.

And so I come back to most visceral hatred for a political figure just now = Cameron for putting us here. It sickens me to the pit of my stomach, thinking of him living his rarified, cosy, massively over-privileged Eton-educated life in Chipping fucking Norton, earning millions as a public speaker off the back of his very short time in politics, running away from the mess he created. What a complete and utter ARSE.

Alex Salmond, the biggest liar of them all IMO.
Farage is a close second.

Bercow does have a horrible shout that I hate.

John McDonnell and the cup of tea story makes me despise him. To celebrate spitting in someone's tea is low.

Then there are the Tigger-like B Johnson and Cameron both so sure of themselves to the detriment of any possible good sense.

I am trying not to tune in any more.

It's a tossup between Margaret 'milk snatcher' Thatcher, Tony 'war criminal' Blair , George 'sociopath' Galloway and Jeremy 'complete wanker' Corbyn. Dishonourable mentions to David Cameron, Nigel Farage, and the rest of the motley crew.

Junker and Merkel played no small part

Cameron, Boris Johnson, Corbyn, MacDonald,Derek hatton, Diane Abbott, Rees mogg and farage. May is getting there. I like be Anna soubrey and Gina miller..very brave women IMO.

Merkel is odd.

Tony Blair or Phony Tony as he shall always be known. He should be in prison for his lies and the amount of resources he wasted on the weapons of mass destruction, not to mention the shocking loss of life.

to shortsaint: Just for your info, Europeans are the same race as most of us in UK. Sorry to burst your PCness.

Merkel because of her UNILATERAL decision of opening up the borders of Europe with no consideration of the consequences. Other politicians in the EU parliament and Germany were too scared of upsetting her to object. It highlighted how one person unilaterally can change the whole face of Europe virtually unchallenged.

Graphista Oh for a world that still had John Smith and Mo Mowlem.

YetAnotherSpartacus I have only recently been vocal about Churchill. So far, you and a woman in a bookshop are the only other people I have come across who don't think he walked on water.

I still struggle to believe he's a real person full stop! He'll turn out to be some animatronic thing!!

Are we living in Westworld? It seems the only rational explanation for the current mess.

Boris, Cameron and Corbyn.
Boris for bring an opportunistic weasel, Cameron for getting us into this mess and Corbyn for somehow managing to make the opposition look less electable then the current government.

Thatcher

Ban MPs having shares or ownership of commercial interests while serving, including property/being landlords - it's a conflict of interests. And don't let them simply transfer those interests to spouses/DC either.

The MPs wealth, etc, could be put into the government funds. If the MPs work hard for the state, and the values go up, they can get back at the end of their term what they put in. If they fail to work, ah well, lose your money. Might be an incentive to actual do something useful for once.

For right now, Cameron.

For all time, Thatcher.

Say what you like about Margaret Thatcher, but I believe she'd have negotiated us a far better Brexit deal than the one that was rejected last night.

Having said that, I do have a begrudging respect for Theresa May as at least she's tried her very hardest to sort out this mess - despite being a remainer. The other politicians (Corbyn, I'm looking at you) can rant and rave all they want but could they have secured a better deal? I highly doubt it.

I can't stand almost any of the current crop to be honest - nearly all of them come across as totally self-serving, political lightweights who only care about themselves.

Corbyn, without a doubt

Can you imagine Corbyn trying to negotiate a deal? The EU would take him even less seriously than they are May. He should be on a street corner selling the Morning Star.

Whovever lied when we first joined the common market. It was supposed to be about trade. Apparently even at the time it was made clear that for the UK it was not about ever closer union.

My parents both voted in the referendum in the 1970s. One voted join, the other voted no.

Dad said that while the main campaign was about the market, he said the small print definitely had information about an ever closer union, which was why he voted not to join. He reckoned it was Edward Heath who was so desperate to join he gave stuff like UK fishing waters away. A clear case of FOMO, if we'd stayed out then, we could have built a good trading base and not just with the EU. We had the ability to go it alone then, I'm not sure we really do now.

Osborne, Johnson, Gove, May (for her immigration policies, I don't think she's to blame for the current mess), Hunt, the list goes on..

Funnily enough, I don't feel anything towards Cameron. I should hate him but he's just an empty shell

Pretty much all of them!

Corbyn I reserve special contempt for. He’s neither use nor ornament.

Anna Soubry is a disgraceful hypocrite.

Diane Abbott, Tony Blair, John Major, David Cameron, Teresa May, BoJo, Merkel, Junker, Macron... pretty much all of them.

I think Maggie Thatcher did a hell of a lot of damage in her time, but if we ever needed a tenacious politician like her it’s now.

Agree with thickandthin. With David Milliband as Leader we may have had a Labour government.

@Weezol I'm always happy to give Churchill a kicking. Go and have a peek at Winston for a baby name thread. I had a great time on there.

Farage for whipping up the idea of brexit, Boris for cynically hitching his wagon to it, Corbyn ... not sure he's clever enough to have done it cynically but he and the momentum policies would compound disaster. Ed Milliband for fucking up labour leadership elections thus allowing Corbyn, and therefore fucking up Labour.

I've no idea who is in the Lib Dem's nowadays. Irrelevant.

Cameron... he made the most awful mistake, partly because he assumed people are generally reasonably rational and intelligent. If the vote had been a few percent the other way he might have been rated as a good PM. May is doggedly trying to enact what she thinks the country voted for, when no one else credible would take that poisoned chalice. Can't hate her for that.

Corbyn and MacDonald,

"Oh for a world that still had John Smith and Mo Mowlem." Hear hear!

"Are we living in Westworld? It seems the only rational explanation for the current mess." Its genuinely terrifying that certain MPs are getting repeatedly elected! I'd LOVE to know if the people voting for them are similarly privileged?

I genuinely don't understand anyone who isn't white, 2+ generation British, upper mc, healthy, financially quite well off voting Tory. Because if you're not these things in all honesty tories are not truly on your side (even if they're happy to pretend to be to gain your vote!)

Which is not to say I agree with those who are doing so, I just can understand it a little better if their worst policies aren't directly going to negatively affect you & yours.

"The MPs wealth, etc, could be put into the government funds. If the MPs work hard for the state, and the values go up, they can get back at the end of their term what they put in. If they fail to work, ah well, lose your money. Might be an incentive to actual do something useful for once."

I think that's a bloody genius idea!!

Even if it were set up they simply got back what they'd put in I bet it'd make a HELL of a difference!

"Say what you like about Margaret Thatcher, but I believe she'd have negotiated us a far better Brexit deal than the one that was rejected last night." As an almost lifelong thatcher hater I have to agree! She had guts & intelligence if nothing else! She wouldn't have tolerated any pissing about (but then I think she'd also have had the sense NOT to have a referendum without first clearly defining brexit, planning for a leave result and certainly wouldn't have triggered art 50 without prior planning & prep!!)

Actually it wouldn't even have got as far as a referendum with her cos she'd have dealt with that slimy little weasel farage in no uncertain terms before he gained any kind of following!!