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Is it all the Tories fault that there's so many homeless people?

176 replies

Rosepetalgeranium · 26/12/2018 23:14

There's so many more homeless thesedays. Is it down to austerity?

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Justanotherlurker · 28/12/2018 11:06

You mean reduce workers' rights, which is what she did.

Yes that is why the EU has given them out this year, so long as Macron pushes through these labour reforms.

BifsWif · 28/12/2018 11:06

I work for a homeless charity, we’ve had our funding cut my 1 millions pounds this year. More expected next year.

Add this to the cuts in the NHS, mental health and substance misuse services universal credit and lack of affordable housing/unaffordable rent and you can see where the blame lies.

BifsWif · 28/12/2018 11:06

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Justanotherlurker · 28/12/2018 11:10

Homelessness has risen massively under the Tory government. It went down under Labour.... i would like to know why but can guess that UC plays a massive part in this

That's all well and good, but doesn't explain why homelessness is increasing EU wide, also one prominent reason how labour reduced it was to move them from the city and home them in delapitdated sea side towns, which has had a knock on effect there

Childrenofthesun · 28/12/2018 11:13

Better to be housed in a dilapidated seaside town than not housed at all!

Wordthe · 28/12/2018 11:16

Yes but now they're not housed they're sleeping in bus shelters in the dilapidated seaside towns, also in tents and on benches on the seafront

Wordthe · 28/12/2018 11:17

The dilapidated seaside towns became even more run down so there were fewer well paid jobs, more social problems
more people falling into chaotic lifestyles and then falling into homelessness
falling through the cracks
And the cracks are getting wider

abbsisspartacus · 28/12/2018 11:26

Homelessness is increasing EU wide? I'm guessing it's because of an upsurge in immigrant population coming over due to wars there are only so many houses avaliable

Anothermothersusername · 28/12/2018 11:28

Oh look more Torie bashing. How original Hmm

Flamingosnbears · 28/12/2018 11:29

No not at all there has always been homeless people and I should imagine sadly there always will it doesn't matter who's in power.

jasjas1973 · 28/12/2018 11:29

That's all well and good, but doesn't explain why homelessness is increasing EU wide

Perhaps the overriding reason is poverty - increasingly right wing policies following the GFC of 2008 has meant social spending cuts across europe? with the corresponding increase in inequality.

BUT as far as i'm aware, its only the UK that has had a UN report into destitution..... 4m people last year found themselves in this situation, 600 died on the streets last year, the average life expectancy is 42 if you are homeless.
Perhaps the Tories are hoping the problem will die off?

Justanotherlurker · 28/12/2018 11:30

Better to be housed in a dilapidated seaside town than not housed at all

I agree, however as with most government policies it was a mere can kicking excercise in some respects and has had major impacts on those towns

Wordthe · 28/12/2018 11:31

Homelessness is far more complex than simple supply and demand
surely everyone understands that now don't they?

jasjas1973 · 28/12/2018 11:33

No not at all there has always been homeless people and I should imagine sadly there always will it doesn't matter who's in power

Of course, there will always be the poor and the destitute, however the increase in people living/dying on the street is now beyond what any civilised society should tolerate.

ScottyBeam · 28/12/2018 11:35

Lots of charities take money in the name of the vulnerable which goes on staff and offices without achieving much for the vulnerable and achieving plenty for the staff who throw their hands in the air, earn virtue cookies and retire on a nice pension and their mortgage paid off.

Wordthe · 28/12/2018 11:37

The massive cliff between the rich and poor, from the ivory tower to the destitute on the streets
This is cruelty writ large, law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, sink or swim
This is barbarism

Wordthe · 28/12/2018 11:39

And the implied threat that if you don't toe the line you will end up with them on the streets

Justanotherlurker · 28/12/2018 11:40

BUT as far as i'm aware, its only the UK that has had a UN report into destitution

That has been discredited apart from those who want to make political hay, one guy spending 2 weeks having coffee mornings is not even if you squint hard enough, quantative data collection.

The UK has problems, it's pretty much world wide the EU also, but as I said initially it's easier for some to just point the finger instead of accepting some of the economic structural reform that's needed, hence why I think Corbyn wouldn't change much, hence why UC has cross party support and Labours manifesto wasn't going to undo many of the cuts Tories have already brought in

BifsWif · 28/12/2018 11:47

Can you name such a charity and provide evidence to back that statement scotty?

I can assure you I’m paid less than minimum wage, top managers salaries are in the range of £24k a year. No Christmas parties, bonuses etc and rightly so.

BifsWif · 28/12/2018 11:48

Less than minimum wage when you take into account the extra hours I do - sorry, that wasn’t clear.

Patroclus · 28/12/2018 11:55

99% yes.

Childrenofthesun · 28/12/2018 11:55

Who has discredited the UN report justanother?

longwayoff · 28/12/2018 12:13

UN report discredited? By whom pray tell? Mr Rees Mogg? Johnson? Ebenezer Scrooge? God's teeth!

KlutzyDraconequus · 28/12/2018 12:13

I can find no record of the report being discredited, only denied by ministers.

Those pesky people that should work for the voters all deny the experts findings and refuse to listen. Basically reducing them to a child in a play ground with their fingers in their ears.

ChristmasTwatteryDoesMyHeadIn · 28/12/2018 12:17

UC only has support from people who’ve never seen the immediate and devastating impact it has.

Genuinely, it’s a horrific policy.