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To wonder about the ‘rift’ and Harry and wills

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Cranky17 · 26/12/2018 20:37

And the ‘rift’ not being between Kate and Meghan at all. I’m not a royalist at all, however quite like both Kate and Meghan (actually really like Meghan and thinks she doing a great job) and wonder whether the ‘rift’ is actually between wills and Harry caused by William reportly having said that Meghan wasn’t suitable, and Harry thinking wtf dB who are you to tell me what to do and just because you are my big brother you don’t get to tell me what to do, we’re not kids anymore,
And Harry stepping out from William shadow, developing his own interests, and confidence and wills not being that keen.

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WipsGlitter · 27/12/2018 07:45

@TwitToWoo re the crying at the dress fitting - she may well have cried at them all but spinning a story about it implying she was made to cry rather than she felt emotion sells more papers.

@pastabest I think the reason Camilla wasn't at the wedding is she had a 'long standing engagement' in Scotland (there were photos) but in reality she doesn't get on with Sarah Ferguson apparently.

Colabottle10 · 27/12/2018 07:55

There is no rift between brothers or wives. It's completely made up. Backlash by media when told to pipe down post wedding.

Lottapianos · 27/12/2018 07:56

It seems people really do believe the shite they read in the papers 🙄 Meghan and Kate may hate each other's guts, or may be best mates..... OR, like the vast majority of relationships, be somewhere in between. No one knows. There's no actual story until the baby is born so they have to keep making up crap until then. The poor woman. The media couldn't get enough of her around the time of the wedding, and just a few months later, she's the devil incarnate. So dull, so predictable and so nasty

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Cookit · 27/12/2018 08:26

I hate the whole choreographed nature of them having to walk to church and be seen out as a foursome.
I would imagine Harry and William are slightly less close than they used to be. But that’s normal and fine in grown men with families of their own.
The Royal Family PR machine doesn’t make Anne, Charles, Andrew and Edward walk around as a strong symbol of sibling togetherness. It’s just so weird the way that this stupid “Fab 4” thing is peddled.

Harry and Meghan would do better to just carve out their own identities and maybe spend a lot of time abroad on some key charity projects. I assume in time they will try to do something a bit different. No one wants to end up as the new Andrew.

Triglesoffy · 27/12/2018 08:58

I think the choreographed walk is a precedence thing. Queen, then Charles, then sons, then Andrew and daughters then Edward and family.

But you lot have made me think of something. Previous threads have raised the “Charles throws people under a bus to deflect away from himself “ theory.

So, to go back to Camilla... ^Camilla -

Sadly I suspect she's unwell (properly and not just a 'heavy cold') but doesn't want any attention about it.

I'm amazed the media let her not attending Eugenie's wedding pass without more of a fuss.^

It could be that Camilla is quite poorly so the “rift” is the palace’s gift to the media to stop them sniffing around Camilla.

It’s a sorry state of affairs on every level, isn’t it?

QueenDoria · 27/12/2018 09:05

I think the Queen should have a word with certain newspaper editors to put an end to all this ridiculous reporting...

PortiaCastis · 27/12/2018 09:19

I'm also amazed at people who believe the shite concocted by newspapers, the bottom feeding idiots will make up anything to sell their shite at someone else's expense it's cheap shallow and nasty and perpetuated by the low.
Leave the woman alone FFS

Cookit · 27/12/2018 09:23

I think the choreographed walk is a precedence thing.

But they could walk behind each other? But no, they have to walk in a line as if they come as a 4.

And the joint press conference and the years and years of it being William, Kate and Harry as a 3.

He seems more likeable when he carved out his own identity like he did in the military.

formerbabe · 27/12/2018 09:26

I think the Queen should have a word with certain newspaper editors to put an end to all this ridiculous reporting

Confused

What, like a dictatorship?!

Heatherjayne1972 · 27/12/2018 09:30

How anyone can tell if there’s a rift I don’t know ! If there was/is it’s non of our business anyway
How can anyone ‘like’ or dislike’ Meghan ? We don’t know her
I only ever see is them walking and smiling or shaking peoples hands and smiling
Quite tricky to get that wrong

Although it must be utterly boring

IPromiseIWontBeNaughty · 27/12/2018 09:48

DBIL told dh to think carefully before marrying me as we had only known each other a short time. I don’t blame him he had his brothers interests at heart. Could be similar & Harry has

  1. Seen it as brotherly concern
  2. Got the hump

I’m betting on 1 - if the story is even true!

ManicUnicorn · 27/12/2018 10:14

Hang on, have I missed something? Camilla didn't attend Eugenies wedding? How odd. Wonder why that wasn't more picked up on?

pastabest · 27/12/2018 10:19

She also didn't attend church on Christmas Day and I think there's been one or two other things.

I actually hope I'm wrong because I quite like her which is also why I've noticed she's been missing a bit recently.

katekat383 · 27/12/2018 10:22

formerbabe

I think the Queen should have a word with certain newspaper editors to put an end to all this ridiculous reporting

What, like a dictatorship?!

Lol! What planet are some posters on? Weird.

ManicUnicorn · 27/12/2018 10:34

I hope she's ok. My late Grandad met her at an event and said she was lovely. Changed his opinion on her totally.

MyMyMyMy · 27/12/2018 10:42

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brizzledrizzle · 27/12/2018 11:02

DBIL told dh to think carefully before marrying me as we had only known each other a short time.

I'll beat that, my father told my then DH not to marry me because he could do better.

IPromiseIWontBeNaughty · 27/12/2018 11:04

That was my brother to dh brizzle!

brizzledrizzle · 27/12/2018 11:05

Ah, I thought it was your DH's brother. How nice of him.

IPromiseIWontBeNaughty · 27/12/2018 11:14

DBIL & db. Blush

Not so sure was tongue in cheek - but we all get along. Been married for more than 20 years so we’ve proven our point Wink

Ginandsonicscrewdriver · 27/12/2018 12:10

, her mum, uncle, niece, stepgrandmother and three of her oldest friends from college were at the wedding

We’re they?

Triglesoffy · 27/12/2018 12:27

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

Triglesoffy · 27/12/2018 12:28

I take your point about Meghan wearing more statement jewellery as her entire jewellery collection has bypassed me. Does she wear anything? I can’t remember.

Valanice1989 · 27/12/2018 13:15

I do wonder where this notion has come from that certain posters are entitled to bossily tell others what they are allowed to talk about - and hen they do, what they are allowed to say.

If there is one group of people open to criticism & public discussion it’s the royal family - and it’s absurd to suggest otherwise.

Yeah, I don't understand it. There is loads of gossip about celebrities on MN, yet some posters on here react particularly angrily to any kind of speculation about Kate or Meghan - "oh for God's sake, leave those poor women alone, Kate's just had a baby and Meghan's pregnant..." Is it because they're upper-class? Would speculation about a feud between, say, Katie Price and Kerry Katona provoke the same ire on MN?

This generation of royals may not air their dirty laundry as openly as reality TV stars do, but the fact remains that they profit from making their private lives public to an extent. If they never televised their weddings or released family photos, the public would lose interest in them and support for the monarchy would dwindle. And we all have a choice in whether we buy magazines with Price or Katona on the front - we don't have any choice in whether we fund the royal family!

ChristmasSprite · 27/12/2018 13:27

So...what actual facts have we?

I have read through all this, well, second guessing and dangerous speculation.

What an awful lot of awful gossip about people we don't even know.

Peoples reputations are made and broken on this kind of rubbish that no-one except them really knows, and they're not saying.

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