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To wonder about the ‘rift’ and Harry and wills

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Cranky17 · 26/12/2018 20:37

And the ‘rift’ not being between Kate and Meghan at all. I’m not a royalist at all, however quite like both Kate and Meghan (actually really like Meghan and thinks she doing a great job) and wonder whether the ‘rift’ is actually between wills and Harry caused by William reportly having said that Meghan wasn’t suitable, and Harry thinking wtf dB who are you to tell me what to do and just because you are my big brother you don’t get to tell me what to do, we’re not kids anymore,
And Harry stepping out from William shadow, developing his own interests, and confidence and wills not being that keen.

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Buxtonstill · 26/12/2018 22:31

If you read the Daily Mail, then you are going to be fed shit like this. Just look at the language they use ‘people have suggested’ , ‘reports from an insider’ . It’s all such bollocks. Nobody has said there is a rift, and the report that Kate cried at a bridesmaid dress fitting are probably true. I created when my god daughter was put in her bridesmaid dress for my wedding. It wasn’t because of a rift between me and the child’s mother. That detail has probably been leaked by a courtier and as long as a journalist has that detail recorded in an interview on tape, then it can’t be disputed, and no action can be taken, even though the fact of her crying would have been taken entirely out of context.

I remember when Anne Diamond lost her baby son; I was working very close to Anne in TV. A journalist interviewed her Nanny on tape, and to put the nanny at ease by asking about daily life at the Diamond household. She said to the nanny, oh I bet you were knackered at the end of the week, did you and Anne have a well deserved glass of wine on a Friday night? The nanny chuckled and said they sometimes did. The next day in the tabloids the headlines ran ‘Grieving Anne needed a drink to cope with life with all the kids’ . As the the journalist had the nanny quoted on tape, they were able to twist it, take it out of context, and attack a recently bereaved mother in order to sensationalise and sell papers. Please consider this story when you read tabloid news articles.

pastabest · 26/12/2018 22:32

Camilla -

Sadly I suspect she's unwell (properly and not just a 'heavy cold') but doesn't want any attention about it.

I'm amazed the media let her not attending Eugenie's wedding pass without more of a fuss.

TwitToWoo · 26/12/2018 22:34

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noodlenosefraggle · 26/12/2018 22:37

I can only assume I'm so old that adults weren't born when the whole 'annus Horriblis' happened. The Queen has 3 divorced children and a divorced sister. That's quite a failure rate, especially when you consider one of the main causes of marital problems is money. If HM's own children's antics when they were Meghans age didn't cause the downfall of the monarchy, the chances of the 6th in line divorcing is hardly likely to cause more than a few stories in the press and private upset to the people involved. When HM dies, he'll be the equivalent of Prince Andrew, who has to hawk his daughters wedding round the TV studios because they are so irrelevant.

TwitToWoo · 26/12/2018 22:43

Buxton That’s all very well, but it’s not just the Daily Mail. In fact, the stories don’t usually originate with them.

Vanity Fair...who couldn’t possibly be more sychophantically pro-Markle if they tried....have admitted she’s known as “Monster Markle” by palace staff and isn’t someone “you can be friends with”.

Every news outlet, including American ones, have said the same thing....she’s difficult & demanding. Which is, of course, being spun inevitably as “a strong opinionated woman & people don’t like those” on this fauxminist site - but that’s as offensive as the explanation that it’s because “she’s American”.

You can be a strong woman without treating people like shit - and you can be a forthright American without making people cry.

And Charlotte has been a bridesmaid more than once - why would Kate burst into tears over it this time?

2019Mummy · 26/12/2018 22:43

I do wonder where this notion has come from that certain posters are entitled to bossily tell others what they are allowed to talk about - and when they do, what they are allowed to say.

Lots of offended dictators taking things out of context on the internet.

ChocolateStash · 26/12/2018 22:49

The order for the throne is:

  1. Charles
  2. William
  3. George
  4. Charlotte
  5. Louis
  6. Harry
noodlenosefraggle · 26/12/2018 22:59

Even if she is the most horrible witch in the universe and the marriage is doomed, a man in his mid 30's who had to watch his parents arranged marriage descend into disaster has fallen in love and married. He has made his own decisions and will be the one who lives with them, Good or bad. The people speculating and gossiping are making two peoples lives more difficult at a time when they are expecting a baby.

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Cranky17 · 26/12/2018 23:02

Which is, of course, being spun inevitably as “a strong opinionated woman & people don’t like those” on this fauxminist site - can you name a few alive women that are respected for their intellect/values/opinions.

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Ginandsonicscrewdriver · 26/12/2018 23:09

Eh, chocolate?

Redglitter · 26/12/2018 23:18

Redglitter how can you possibly judge another woman who you have never even had a conversation with, and don't know. FFS this is so pathetic. Do you even know how stupid this judging of women is

So im not allowed an opinion? Ffs there have been loads of threads on here about celebrities etc people like and dont like. I don't see any one on them being criticised You dont have to meet someone to form an opinion of them. From what ive seen of her i cant take to her at all. Thats allowed

noodlenosefraggle · 26/12/2018 23:31

nimi I suppose workaholic is subjective. If everyone around you is doing 20 minute visits to a WI group in Slough, then doing 40 minutes opening a new youth club probably is workaholic Grin

Jack65 · 27/12/2018 00:06

Yes, and other people are wrong to judge other women on the basis of crap in the trashy and not so trashy press too.

katekat383 · 27/12/2018 00:12

TwitToWoo

I do wonder where this notion has come from that certain posters are entitled to bossily tell others what they are allowed to talk about - and when they do, what they are allowed to say.

They behave like jumped up forum prefects. No poster should presume she is able to stifle robust discussion about anyone in the RF. How ludicrous.

katekat383 · 27/12/2018 00:15

The line of succession we already know. Hmm

katekat383 · 27/12/2018 00:16

Trashy press? More presumptions. Dear me...

VladmirsPoutine · 27/12/2018 00:27

Frankly I wish Meghan were not half black. That seems to be the root cause of why she is evil. I know it's not the done thing but I speak for all those who just can't put their finger on it but know 'something' is wrong with Meghan. I figured it out: she's part black and frankly that's the problem. Is there a way she could just stop being half black and fix all this?

VladmirsPoutine · 27/12/2018 00:32

@TwitToWoo Exactly! Markle is a horrendous woman! I just wish she could stop being half black then she'd be fine! Then vanity fair would love her. I just haven't yet invented a potion to stop us half black people being half black and knowing our place. It is such a conundrum. We should be serving Princesses, not becoming them!

NikiFree · 27/12/2018 00:55

It may also be a cultural thing. Having had some experience of US working environments, staff are spoken to appallingly over there, belittled, etc in a way which would be utterly unacceptable at work the UK.

Hence why she speaks to staff as she does allegedly here. This isn't the US and she can't speak to staff like that without there being consequences.

NikiFree · 27/12/2018 00:56

She could be a bright green alien for all I cared.

The fact that she is "half black" is irrelevant to me. It's nothing to do with her race.

GunpowderGelatine · 27/12/2018 01:01

I reckon they all get along jolly well, when you see the two brothers together it's clear they are close. But why do Kate and Meghan have to be besties? I think most of us see our SILs at family events and Christmas and send the occasional text about presents for the kids - why on earth would these two be any different? Not that I think they don't get on!

GunpowderGelatine · 27/12/2018 01:03

@VladmirsPoutine I totally agree! "I can't put my finger on why I don't like her", should be met with "it's because you're a racist my dear, probably a misogynist too"

VladmirsPoutine · 27/12/2018 01:33

Her race is irrelevant I agree but it would be most delightful if she could do away with all that blackness. I find it most unbecoming.

Cherries101 · 27/12/2018 01:40

They’re brothers. They probably had a argument about something a few months ago, are over it, and the DM have only just got wind of it now. The DM misrepresents ‘old news’ a lot like this.

RCohle · 27/12/2018 01:51

Is assuming that everyone who mildly dislikes Meghan is (subconsciously) racist, not in and of itself a bit racist though. She is more than her ethnicity surely?