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I think I've just been fired

433 replies

CinnamonVanilla · 17/10/2018 17:05

Boss found out that I applied for a job with our parent company. Supposed to be anonymous; but I'd have said when it was appropriate. Our HR director beat me to it; in front of a lot of people, apparently.

He took me into a room to say that it was humiliating; and means he no longer trusts me, so how do we move forward. He said my work is excellent but this is a big issue.

He's given me some time to think. Presumably he's expecting my notice this evening. I've been here just under two years so there's nothing I can do.

This has made my anxiety rocket and I don't know want to do.

OP posts:
LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 30/10/2018 12:13

Also if your bipolar is has been disclosed, you are in a really strong position here.

NoSquirrels · 30/10/2018 12:16

He's emailed this morning that he's also going to change my role to take one half of my job away from me; and move the thing that I wanted to do (from up there ) to someone else, although I can "feed back ideas". It will leave me with about 30% of the job that I'm contracted to do; no budget and reduce me to no direct reports. At the moment half my job involves a small team.^

Forward this email and the meeting request one to HR, and say you’d like a formal meeting with all parties.

As a PP says, ask your manager fiot an agenda and let him know you’ve told HR about the redefinition of the job role, so if it is to discuss that it might be best to postpone until they can attend.

WrongSideOfHistory · 30/10/2018 12:56

OP this is bullying behaviour and you really need to raise a grievance if you can. Both for you and to protect the next person who he comes into contact with.

Crazyladee · 30/10/2018 16:37

OP I can't offer any constructive advice other than what's already been said but I just wanted to say that I have been following your thread and I am completely outraged at how you are being treated.

We are all rooting for you and right behind you. I know it's easy to say from behind a keyboard but please do not back down, cave in and let your manager bully you out of your job. You have done nothing wrong. He should be strung up for treating you like this all for daring to apply for another job!

I know it's hard as I hate confrontation and awkward situations myself, but please stay strong and fight back. With the help of ACAS and the advice you have had on here, you can do this.

For you OP 

Crazyladee · 30/10/2018 16:37

Sorry.. For you OP 

Crazyladee · 30/10/2018 16:38

Okay my flowers are invisible lol

Yellowpokadotbikini · 30/10/2018 18:26

How did the meeting go OP?

Angelf1sh · 30/10/2018 18:34

Please, please, speak to an employment lawyer, this is all massively illegal.

64ChewsBrains · 30/10/2018 18:41

So utterly bizarre. I feel for you OP, and I’m glad so many people here have already offered constructive advice. Flowers

BertyFlanter · 30/10/2018 18:48

I feel for you OP, I've been in a similar situation and it was hard without any MH issues.
You said at the start of the thread that you were just a few days off your two years, sorry if I've missed it but has that anniversary now passed? If so you are in a much better position, if not could you somehow prolong the process until it does pass?

LegoPiecesEverywhere · 30/10/2018 19:05

I am sorry you are going through this op. Hope you are ok.

DarlingNikita · 30/10/2018 19:21

He's emailed this morning that he's also going to change my role to take one half of my job away from me; and move the thing that I wanted to do (from up there ^) to someone else, although I can "feed back ideas". It will leave me with about 30% of the job that I'm contracted to do; no budget and reduce me to no direct reports.

I can't believe he's still acting like this Hmm If I were HR I'd have been straight on to him to warn him off.

You are being intimidated and bullied and your job has been changed substantially without consultation or reasons given. Get a lawyer and take them to the cleaners.

Labradoodliedoodoo · 31/10/2018 07:37

Is it worth meeting with HR and his senior managers. You are being bullied

Labradoodliedoodoo · 31/10/2018 07:38

You may not be the only person to be on the receiving end of his poor behaviour

Maelstrop · 31/10/2018 09:28

I know it’s difficult, but honestly, you should be going the grievance route. Your manager sounds like a spiteful child.

Stripybeachbag · 31/10/2018 11:03

Another saying hold firm.

larrygrylls · 31/10/2018 11:16

I would leave and claim constructive dismissal (assuming you can afford it). Your job has completely changed and you have been bullied.

Tell them you require 2 months notice plus a reference to ‘go away’ quietly. Take all the emails with you and notes of the meetings.

Unless you have a very good contract, though, or can claim you have been bullied due to a ‘protected characteristic’ you are unlikely to get more than the above.

Good luck!

DarlingNikita · 31/10/2018 14:12

To follow on from what larrygrylls says, if you engage a lawyer and you win, you won't have to pay a penny. Similar happened to me, although I went for a settlement agreement rather than a grievance; that my ex-employer would pay my lawyer's fees was part of the agreement.

Orlandointhewilderness · 31/10/2018 14:37

Thinking of you op

FogCutter · 31/10/2018 14:43

Do not resign and try to claim constructive dismissal, it's very very difficult to win a CD claim. You need to follow the grievance process as a first step.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 31/10/2018 14:50

You absolutely won't win a constructive dismissal case if you don't follow all the company's procedures before resigning, that means grievance etc. Don't just resign and hope to sort it out later...

findingmywaytoday · 31/10/2018 14:59

Definitely try again like others have said. Also check your home insurance, if it has legal expenses cover it will quite often cover employment issues.

findingmywaytoday · 31/10/2018 15:00

Raise a grievance.

findingmywaytoday · 31/10/2018 15:01

Once it's in HR will have to set the wheels in motion and it will give you room to negotiate on if you want to. Also if you're struggling also consider getting signed off by your gp for the stress your manager is inducing and how he is exacerbating your ill health.

Inertia · 31/10/2018 15:17

Please get advice from ACAS!

Given what you've said about the manager, I'm wondering whether HR want you to raise a grievance because they want evidence about his conduct?