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CBB 'punch' incident. Views?

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YeOldeFishWife · 01/09/2018 11:09

Not sure about this as it is highly irritating to have someone jumping around you pretend to 'box' and he could have poked her by accident. She was in a car accident recently and could be tender there. Some could say she had a right to complain even though he was obviously not deliberately trying to hurt her.

The asking for him to be removed from the house (if she did that) and claims that he'd 'beaten her up' were a complete overreaction of though.

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ShatnersWig · 05/09/2018 14:28

Wow. This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on here. Harvey Weinstein is a rapist FFS.

I know what the poster was getting at too. Someone who goes around repeating a pattern of behaviour and is totally and utterly convinced they've done nothing wrong.

Although surely Gunpowder as someone who read Law at uni you should have said "an ALLEGED rapist FFS"? As he hasn't been convicted yet (although obviously I hope that will be the eventual outcome).

MrsChollySawcutt · 05/09/2018 14:45

I think she needs to be really careful from now on. If anything (god forbid) genuinely did happen to her, in the future, who is going to believe her now?

And that's why her behaviour is so bloody dangerous.

chasinggarlic · 05/09/2018 15:08

She is almost like a mirror image Harvey Weinstein- instead of a past of assaulting women she has a past of accusing men

Yeah that's totally like, not the fucking same. At all. Not even slightly similar.

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:22

I can kind of see where it's coming from - as in

  • someone is accused of multiple assaults against women, no-one believing

mirror reverse image would be

  • woman accused of falsely accusing what looks to be several men if true - the victim automatically not being believed and the one doing the abusing (in this case the woman, as emotional abuse is a thing too) getting away with it.

It's complicated and a brain masher, but I get where they're coming from.

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:26

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GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:27

This is rape culture in action - believing men when they say she's falsely accused them of assault, and comparing her actions to those of a serial rapist. I think this thread just proves my point TBH about how men are seen vs how women are seen

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:31

Gunpowder - nobody is comparing her actions to that of at ALL, can't you see that?
Not in the slightest?

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:32

It's complicated and a brain masher, but I get where they're coming from

It's not complicated. It's like saying comparing murder to a benefit fraud.

Maybe you could give Shatner some legal pointers though seeing as she is confused and you studied law

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:32

To talk about someone minimising is extremely hypocritical, as you have been doing that all the way through the thread.

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:33

rainbows a poster has compared her actions to that of a serial rapist - how can you not see that? It's in black and white below 👇🏻

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:33

Instead of trying to insult fling, why not try to see the points being made?

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:35

Gunpowder - no, they have not said anything like the actions were the same, they said it was a mirror image, if it was turned back on itself.
You refuse to see that though, in your determination that men can never be victims and they'll be fine.

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:35

No I haven't despite your fairy stories rainbows. Shatner has claimed Weinstein is an alleged rapist. After hundreds of women have come forward about him and he's admitted his actions. This is what rape victims have to put up with everyday /m- wankers saying "but it's an alleged assault so there". It's pathetic

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:35

Instead of trying to insult fling, why not try to see the points being made?

Yeah I can't see the point in mentioning Weinstein in all this I'm afraid

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:37

Gunpowder - no, they have not said anything like the actions were the same, they said it was a mirror image, if it was turned back on itself.

No, it was said to invoke a comparison to Weinstein. What has it got to do with anything? Two totally different cases. Like comparing Peter Sutcliffe to Cheryl Cole

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 15:40

No, it was said to invoke a comparison to Weinstein. What has it got to do with anything?

I explained upthread. You don't want to see it though, or can't. Fair enough.

GunpowderGelatine · 05/09/2018 15:43

Ok, I'll play along - what is the point of stating a "mirror image"? If it is what you say it is it's an odd thing to point out

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 16:06

Ok, I'll play along - what is the point of stating a "mirror image"?

That's just it - you're playing along. You don't understand.Not really.
You're only going to understand if you can accept what she was doing was a form or abuse, making her the abuser and him the victim.
If you can't grasp that men can be victims too, or that women can't be abusive, it's pointless trying to explain.

ShatnersWig · 05/09/2018 16:08

Shatner has claimed Weinstein is an alleged rapist.

Maybe you could give Shatner some legal pointers though seeing as she is confused and you studied law

I'm not confused. As a point of law, Weinstein has not been convicted and is therefore, in the eyes of the law, an alleged rapist. What you or I think PRIVATELY he is (and I put I hope he will be convicted of these charges - although with it being America I'm not necessarily convinced he will) is one thing. Stating it in writing is another, and I've seen MNHQ remove similar postings before which tends to suggest they like not to be associated with anything that could get them into legal hot water.

But carry on foaming at the mouth.

ilovegin112 · 05/09/2018 17:35

I’m sorry you were abused and not believed Gunpowder but that doesn’t mean women can’t be abusers or falsely accuse men, just because you don’t believe you can have problems after somebody lies about you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, look at the amount of children that self harm some start after one comment or do they no matter they should just get over it

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 18:02

look at the amount of children that self harm some start after one comment or do they no matter they should just get over it

Yes, upthread someone (sorry, can't remember if it was gunpowder or someone agreeing with her, it's a long thread to go back on!) but they said nothing happened, so no-one's a victim.
Denying it happened.
Being bullied/victimised is a real thing, emotionally manipulating and setting out to ruin someone, whether emotionally or physically, is a thing.
It's exactly the same as saying to say a teenager being bullied at school and their peers turning people against them, accusing them of things. saying "didn't happen, nothing to see here, you're not being victimised" is a dangerous path to go down. Victims of bullies should be supported too.

BoneyBackJefferson · 05/09/2018 18:18

It is very interesting that she shows the classic traits of being an abuser, has done this time and time again, yet to some she has done nothing wrong.

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 18:22

BoneyBack - indeed. I find it all fascinating (for want of a better word!) with the insight into how minds tick.

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/09/2018 19:15

Women coming out and saying they've been victims of her too.
"Roxanne Pallet's behaviour scars" says TV presenter Zoe Salmon.

www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/tv/roxanne-pallett-behavior-scars-says-15112678

overnightangel · 05/09/2018 20:23

I grew up where she grew up,heard all sorts of stories before she’d even finished school.

View on forum from Carlisle (some explicit comments)

www.thecumbrians.net/index.php/cufc-forum/main-forum/9107-roxanne-pallet#181186

Never met her but heard all sorts.... unfair to say no smoke without sore as that seems to be her attitude in getting RT into trouble