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CBB 'punch' incident. Views?

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YeOldeFishWife · 01/09/2018 11:09

Not sure about this as it is highly irritating to have someone jumping around you pretend to 'box' and he could have poked her by accident. She was in a car accident recently and could be tender there. Some could say she had a right to complain even though he was obviously not deliberately trying to hurt her.

The asking for him to be removed from the house (if she did that) and claims that he'd 'beaten her up' were a complete overreaction of though.

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rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 18:59

So it seems she has been sacked from her radio job.Emmerdal have said she will never come back And her agent is in talks with the panto people.Looks like she is gone from that as well

I honestly can't see how anyone is going to want to work with her at all after this, they'll have seen how easily she was coming out with the lies, determined that he really did, they'll be too scared it'll be them next time, especially as she has alleged form for doing it!

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:07

i will not apologise for my allegiance being with the 85,000 women and not the 500 men. And I think on this instance it is OK to pick a side

Nobody should ever disregard victims of any form of abuse just because they're not female. Anybody a victim of abuse should be listened to.
It's not ABOUT taking sides. It'd be interesting to know if you have a male DH/partner/sons as if they ever got falsely accused in the future of something as serious as domestic violence or rape, you'd be OK with that as they're not on the right "side" and don't suffer apparently.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:28

As I said rainsbows I wouldn't automatically assume they hadn't done it just because I love them. And given most reports of rape are genuine I'd be tremendously upset at the thought of them doing that to somebody.

I'm certainly not going to change my stance because of a hypothetical situation involving a loved one. How would you feel if, heaven forbid, you or a female friend got raped and were called a liar because of it? Would you think "yeah men are falsely accused sometimes so I get their point?"

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:29

And I'm not disregarding anyone, I'm just not fighting their corner. I don't have to.

SillySallySingsSongs · 04/09/2018 19:32

Nobody should ever disregard victims of any form of abuse just because they're not female. Anybody a victim of abuse should be listened to.

Absolutely this!

SillySallySingsSongs · 04/09/2018 19:33

And I'm not disregarding anyone, I'm just not fighting their corner. I don't have to.

No you don't have to, but then don't claim to be for the victims of all abuse for example because clearly you aren't.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:35

How would you feel if, heaven forbid, you or a female friend got raped and were called a liar because of it?

Exactly the same - that accusing someone of lying over serious allegations is an actual thing. Regardless of whether you're male or female. As it's not a big fight "menz v wimmin" that you are trying to make it about.

And I'm not disregarding anyone
You were doing exactly that earlier in the thread. You said it wasn't a thing, they don't suffer and they're teflon coated.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:37

No you don't have to, but then don't claim to be for the victims of all abuse for example because clearly you aren't

Exactly. Completely contradictory. Again.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:44

I'll 'be' for who I want to be for thank you. And don't worry, men will always have support in their corner, even the ones who have raped people. The most powerful man in the world is a sex offender FFS, don't tell me that there's no hope after an accusation.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:45

I don't consider being the victim of perverting the course of justice a victim of abuse and certainly not violence.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:46

As it's not a big fight "menz v wimmin" that you are trying to make it about.

Tell that to the 85,000 women raped a year by men, most of whom will have been called liars at some point

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:49

I don't consider being the victim of perverting the course of justice a victim of abuse

Abuse doesn't have to always be about physical or sexual, you bizarrely seem to think it is. As well as if any abuse happens to men, it doesn't matter as it's so rare.
Even if it's rare it'd still be a matter of abuse.

youarenotkiddingme · 04/09/2018 19:50

That's true about doing nothing. My son had a knife pulled on him in a classroom and school even reported it to me.
Ds made statement and although they've logged it as common assault they say there is no proof he's been a victim because the devolve these incidents to school to solve and there was no evidence sought or investigation.

School then denied it happened.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:51

Tell that to the 85,000 women raped a year by men, most of whom will have been called liars at some point

WTAF has that got to do with anything?! You're fixated on "women suffer more, so men don't matter."
They matter as well you are coming across as having some serious man issues, that you are intent to bringing to the thread and making it all about men v women.
It's not even about that, but you seriously seem incapable of listening or even seeing that in the slightest.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:56

You said it wasn't a thing,

I said what wasn't a thing?

You also claimed I said defamation wasn't a thing and look how that ended, so please be accurate this time.

dustarr73 · 04/09/2018 19:57

@GunpowderGelatine
Tell that to the 85,000 women raped a year by men, most of whom will have been called liars at some point

This thread is not about that
I dont know why you keep bringing rape in to it.

I have all sons and if they where accused of anything , i would have their back till proved otherwise.

You keep wanting to pit the men against women.And have it in your head that women dont lie.
And men deserve whatever accusations thrown at them,whether true or not.Thats a very dangerous attitude.

Every case should be based on merit and proof.Not because they are men and women.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:57

I said what wasn't a thing?

Biscuit

There's no fucking point.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 19:58

In engaging, that is.

Biscuit
SillySallySingsSongs · 04/09/2018 19:58

I don't consider being the victim of perverting the course of justice a victim of abuse and certainly not violence.

My BIL was a victim of extreme DV by his ex which 8f continued, would have killed him. According to your logic he doesn't matter because he's male.

Disgraceful.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 19:58

WTAF has that got to do with anything?

FGS. Perpetuating the myth that false accusations are common feed into rape culture and ultimately damage rape victims. So pardon me if I don't put he feelings of a small number of men first.

If you think sticking up for women who've been raped and pointing out that false causation date rare and not on par with rape, is 'having man issues', I think that says more about you than me.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 20:00

My BIL was a victim of extreme DV by his ex which 8f continued, would have killed him. According to your logic he doesn't matter because he's male

WTAF. Can you read? I said victims of perverting the course of justice aren't victims of abuse. Clearly your brother was. It's very boring and counter productive so twist entirely what people.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 20:01

Every case should be based on merit and proof.Not because they are men and women.

Exactly! Not saying it's a man, so it doesn't matter, it's not real.

I dont know why you keep bringing rape in to it.
Me either, it's utterly bizarre how not listening to a single actual thing, bringing it right back round to there again, and making it into a them against us thing.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 20:01

@dustarr73 I'm not even going to answer that total rubbish, but the thread moved on as it is allowed to

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 20:02

**

Biscuit

If you think sticking up for women who've been raped and pointing out that false causation date rare and not on par with rape, is 'having man issues', I think that says more about you than me.

Biscuit
rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 20:02

WTAF. Can you read?

Dear God, the irony.