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CBB 'punch' incident. Views?

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YeOldeFishWife · 01/09/2018 11:09

Not sure about this as it is highly irritating to have someone jumping around you pretend to 'box' and he could have poked her by accident. She was in a car accident recently and could be tender there. Some could say she had a right to complain even though he was obviously not deliberately trying to hurt her.

The asking for him to be removed from the house (if she did that) and claims that he'd 'beaten her up' were a complete overreaction of though.

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CarpeVitam · 04/09/2018 12:02

And it isn't helpful to suggest it is just a question of semantics. It is incorrect to use the word 'prosecute' in the context of a civil wrong....one would SUE for defamation, NOT prosecute.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 12:23

Yes, sithis, blindly believing just on someone's say so when you can see what she did in there is worrying.

DioneTheDiabolist · 04/09/2018 12:35

I loved the interview last night.

I'm devastated.
I want to apologise.
I'm sensitive.
I felt.
I can't apologise enough.
But not in person, I did it on telly this morning.
I don't know anything about that.
I was mistaken.
I'm fragile.
My family are gutted for me.
And 1 wee "sorry" at the end.

She was class. RP may become my favourite sleb.ShockGrin

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 12:47

My family are gutted for me

That bit! How do your family feel about it? "They're gutted for me."
It's not about you, you weren't the victim in all of this.

DioneTheDiabolist · 04/09/2018 13:54

I pmsl when she said that with a completely serious face.Grin

dustarr73 · 04/09/2018 13:58

You could see Emma didnt fall for it.She looked disgusted.And Roxanne realised it;, she started to cry.

So Emma finished the interview and left her there

DioneTheDiabolist · 04/09/2018 14:07

Emma was really strict. I don't think I've ever seen her so cross!

MyCatIsBonkers · 04/09/2018 14:17

I pmsl when she said that with a completely serious face.

I did the same when in the JV interview she said she knew a few people who'd been wrongly accused.

TopOfTheHeap · 04/09/2018 15:48

After watching the footage it seems to me that she believes her lies which is the worrying thing. The majority of the public announcing that she was ‘obviously’ lying.

I don't think she does believe it but having known several people like her I think she does believe that she's more intelligent/more convincing/more manipulative than other people and that she will be believed despite all evidence to the contrary.

This has probably worked on a number of occasions over a number of years so her view that she'll 'get away with it' has been reinforced and she's gained in confidence to the point her claims have become more outrageous (complaining when she knows it was filmed) .

This seems to have been confirmed by people coming forward to say she has done this before and this is a pattern of behaviour for her.

dustarr73 · 04/09/2018 15:48

Pallett must be a product of the UK equivalent of the Billy Barry schools of dance and performance. While the goal of these schools is to instill confidence in children, they run the risk of instilling a false, fake confidence in the children as well. They spend their childhood being told they are special, that they are stars. They get attention at every juncture and they effectively become intolerable little *s. Old before their time. Now when the majority of the children who go through these schools grow up, they realize that they are not superstars, that blow to their ego becomes part of the maturation of their emotional development. Their self esteem is unaffected by that realization and they are perfectly ok with being normal.

Then there are the one's who never mature, the fully fledged narcissistic monsters with their put upon enablers fostering them completely at all times feeding their ego's. Remember those deluded 'singers' who would audition for the X factor yet hadn't a note in their head? Those are who I'm referring to. They audition, get rejected by the judges then they go back to their families who continue to inflate their ego's telling them they are better the Mariah bloody Carey, that the judges, industry experts, are wrong.

Deep down these people know they aren't special and it's this which drives them to bully others, manipulate, make false allegations typically towards those who threaten their narcissistic bubble. The entire point of making false statements etc is to discredit people who have what they do not have. Talent, respect, intelligence, beauty, whatever it may be. They would have done nothing to provoke it all except to simply be who they are, it's the mental comfort their target has which fuels the stirrer, the bully.

Poxy's pretty face and sociopathic compunction to throw people under the bus lead to the career she has had.

I think Pallett never matured as you point out. She still has the emotional capacity, development and intelligence of that tween star and never matured into adulthood. Like a child, whenever she got into trouble she went running to her mother who knows how 'sensitive' she is. Interestingly, she never tried to manipulate the experienced crew. Nick, Kirstie, Hardeep et al. She zeroed in on the gullible types. Thankfully she also presumed Dan, a pretty level headed dude, was another gullible airhead but he had the maturity to smell a rat i.e. if Ryan had done as she claimed, he'd have been booted out immediately. With her gambit to remove Ryan having failed, she high tailed it out of there, crying victim as she went.

Ryan had something tangible that Poxy didn't have. That was why she was biding her time. She was always going to pounce on any perceived slight or insult and ruin him. Like the other's she tormented, it was calculated and planned but carried out with the childish ignorance of the seriousness and repercussions her actions would cause. To put someone like that into any dynamic with mature adults inevitably leads to trouble. When there are no cameras around, she always got away with causing unnecessary trouble. Their crocodile tears and manipulative lies with their gullible crew always works. To put them into a warts and all reality TV show inevitably leads to their entrenched modus operandi getting completely exposed.

Sorry for getting all armchair psychologist but why these people are the way they are is intriguing. When even someone like Germaine watches the footage and immediately goes "Is that it?" it just says it all for how ridiculous it was.*

Found this on another site im on.Its spot on.

nonnatushouse · 04/09/2018 16:37

Emma was really quite formidable. Not shouty and raging but more like a disappointed, quietly angry parent. Scary!

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 16:42

Nonnatus - yes, I think Emma did a great job with the interview. Asked questions, even the tougher ones, and was not going to let her get away with any manipulation or falseness.
No shouting, bullying behaviour, just straight forward question asking.

youarenotkiddingme · 04/09/2018 16:54

I doubt there are more accused falsely than not reported per year.

I think we still have a really long way to get it right with regards accusations etc.

But my point is we can't dismiss and say we don't care about those on the receiving end of false accusations. Well I guess some people do and can as said above - but I don't think we should just accept some people are collateral damage and that's a good thing for the sake of getting more people willing to report.

dustarr73 · 04/09/2018 17:10

So it seems she has been sacked from her radio job.Emmerdal have said she will never come back
And her agent is in talks with the panto people.Looks like she is gone from that as well

ShatnersWig · 04/09/2018 17:29

Announced earlier she's out of the panto

If she wants any sort of career in the industry now, she'll need to relocate to another country.

HouseOfMouse · 04/09/2018 17:30

dustarr73 Your post of 15:48 nakes a lot of sense. It's clearly a lifelong pattern of behaviour in Roxanne's case which is why even in her 2 interviews she didn't seem to have "got it" at all, and was still banging on about how special/fragile she is.

MarthasGinYard · 04/09/2018 17:38

At least Rydian can send back his Go Pro

furandchandeliers · 04/09/2018 17:53

The one thing that's starting to annoy me about this is when people keep saying he could've been ruined of it was not in front of a camera.... bullshit!

You don't lose your job and go to prison because someone accuses you of punching them, there needs to be evidence or witnesses. They would've seen the lack of bruises and told her there's nothing they can do.

I have friends who have been stabbed by their boyfriends and there was nothing done because it was their word against theirs.

People are way overestimating the justice system Confused

AamdC · 04/09/2018 18:03

You can howeverr be charged with assault despite no evidence @furandchandeliers my dh was and it was only on the morning the trial was due to start the CPS. accepted his version of events (prhaps because they had fuck all evidence to produce) and i know he didnt do what he was accused of because i was there but appatently my statement was irrelevant to themHmm

whosafraidofabigduckfart · 04/09/2018 18:06

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GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 18:12

I think we still have a really long way to get it right with regards accusations etc.

What do you think we need to get right? There's no evidence that false accusations of rape are any more common or damaging than false accusations of other crimes.

I don't think you'd be so dismissive about someone setting up an FGM support group. Even though nobody's ever been convicted of FGM in this country, so by your logic it doesn't happen. And I don't think you'd agree that 'only' 3000 people are raped each year in the UK, even though that's the number of convictions

Well no because there are other credible sources that give us figures on FGM and rape
The NHS digital.nhs.uk/news-and-events/news-archive/2017-news-archive/annual-statistical-publication-for-fgm-shows-5-391-newly-recorded-cases-during-2016-17
And rape.org rapecrisis.org.uk/statistics.php

I'm yet to see a credible source other than the aforementioned CPS report that states the number of false accusations each year.

For those saying there are more false accusations than the CPS tell us - I'll play devil's advocate for a moment. The CPS report tells us that for every 161 rapists convicted, 1 person is convicted of perverting the course of justice WRT to a false accusation of rape.

So if we take the 85,000 rapes figure, and apply that mathematics, it's probably fair to say that false accusations come to just over 500 men a year. I'd even disputed that TBH. Most people will think of false accusations being "she slept with him then regretted it the next day so cried rape" - if you dig further into the CPS report it states that those lying about the rapes usually said a stranger or random assailants attacked them, rather than naming individual men.

But anyway, i digress. I have sympathy for any victim of crime, but i will not apologise for my allegiance being with the 85,000 women and not the 500 men. And I think on this instance it is OK to pick a side - I couldn't sit in front of a woman giving her comfort and support on a Monday who's been raped, but her rapist was found not guilty and she gets abuse everyday about being a liar, slag, attention seeker etc - then on a Tuesday post my frustration online about all the awful women who 'cry rape' when it is STILL, at 500 per year, so rare. Perpetuating the myth that false accusations are common feeds into rape culture, and I don't want to be a part of that.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/09/2018 18:15

It is highly unlikely a case goes to court on no evidence whatsoever.

A person/victim's statement does count as evidence BTW

dustarr73 · 04/09/2018 18:16

@HouseOfMouse
@whosafraidofabigduckfart

Unfortunatey i cant take credit.I lifted that off another site.Its really spot on though

worridmum · 04/09/2018 18:26

Yes totally being accused of being a thief is totally the same of being accused of a pedo or a rapist. You are not going to be called out in the street for being a thief.

But you are going to get hounded if people think you might be a pedophile or a rapist so stop spreading bullshit saying the accusations of rape and child abuse are the same as being accused of petty theft.

These crimes along with Murder are seen as the most henious crimes one can commit to say there is no evidence that being accussed of these heinous crimes is the same as any other crime is deluded.

Do you not remeber a few years ago the massive veligatite mobs that went around beating up and chasing out surpsected pedophiles and Pediatricians that got caught up in it as well because stupid people thought they were also pedophiles.

So please dont say you would get the same vegiliate mobs forming from lesser crimes like theft or fraud becuas eit will not happen.

rainbowsandsmiles · 04/09/2018 18:55

You don't lose your job and go to prison because someone accuses you of punching them, there needs to be evidence or witnesses. They would've seen the lack of bruises and told her there's nothing they can do

It's not always about physical abuse though.In some instances mental abuse can destroy, and what she was doing in there, trying to turn everyone against him, to doubt him, to say he repeatedly punched her, what you're doing there is planting seeds of doubt.
Did he? No smoke without fire etc.
Messing people's with emotions, trying to bring someone else down and for what?
It's pure messed up is what it is.