650 kal a day

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For 2 months iv been on a vlcd consuming 650 kcal a day and lost 2 stone - AMA

@Lifeomars are you morbidly obese ? or are you a healthy BMI and so need to fuel your body with the food you consume ? If you have a lot of fat stored in your body, then if you eat a VLCD, it will utilise these stores of fat for energy instead.

That is my plan after the 12 weeks this was just a kick-start as I had to lower my cholesterol and bp quickly. I'm paying new you plan and I'm paying for the products that I eat, access to nutritionists, dieticians ect and access to a Facebook support group

My DD is in recovery from anorexia after having been hospitalised for medical stabilisation 8 times, before being admitted to a psych ward. Going into any kind of calorie deficit is significant trigger for those with a genetic predisposition to anorexia, but studies show that women following VLCDs are more prone to developing issues with body-image, self-esteem and body attitudes, with mood fluctuations, interpersonal and affective problems in long run (possibly due to subsequent weight gain and getting back on the cycle of VLCDs), than those on balanced diets. I don't think it is safe at all.

My gp is amazing. But I have a lot of physical and mh problems so I see him very regularly.

What is the plan OP? I’m interested in trying it!

My sister died from fatty liver cancer recently because the high cholesterol damaged her liver. She was only 59. People should be looking after their health better!

Thankyou and yes when you finish the 12 weeks you go onto something called switch which is all about calorie counting and making better food choices. This is the main reason I picked this one as your supported afterwards to.

Depends how much you have to lose, definitely.

I did Very Fast 800 and lost 1.5 stone in 8 weeks, with only that and maybe only half a stone more to lose.

I did put it back on again though very quickly. You definitely need a maintenance plan, as the OP has.

With me it coincided with early 2021 - was a good lockdown diet, but as soon as things opening up again I went a bit mad. I couldn't do it with my normal life, I'm too busy and also do a lot of exercise which I don't want to stop.

What is this " support" have you attempted to access yet?

What is it, chat bots? Do you get to access actual medical/official support or is it just someone at the end of an email but you have no idea who they are and what knowledge they hold?

The face book support group? I'm in a health and fitness group and it ranges from all sorts of crazy and contradictory information, lots of encouragement of what is sometimes Imo at least , of less than safe or sensible things. And general chit chat and encouragement and support of achievements.

What form does this support take

Apparently it is actual food….

I thought it was a shake or something but browsing through the website the OP quoted, it is an actual “brownie” that you eat….

I'm sorry for your loss. Having high cholesterol is what scared me into doing this.

Yeah it's actual food but it's not like an actual brownie you would just buy from a shop I don't think I explained it well🙈

every last person I know who has done a VLCD has ended up with gallstone issues and gall bladder removal...

How many? Bit of a bold statement.

It can be whatever you want whether that's emails, phonecalls or asking for help and advise on the Facebook groups. The Cambridge 1:1 diet Is similar and I think you get more 1 on 1 advise but that one was out of my budget.

If you look at some of the ingredients lists there is very little actual food in there! Mostly chemically made stuff.

Well done OP. All these posts saying it’s not healthy. Neither is being overweight and having dangerously high BP and diabetes. It sounds like a good way to kick start the diet. You do adapt also. I’m on a regular diet and 2.5wks in my hunger has reduced considerably

My sister developed gallstones after doing the Lighter Life diet, they were very painful and kept recurring so that she ended up having her gallbladder removed.

Being very overweight is a gallstones risk, also for many other things, so swings and roundabouts.

VF 800 is definitely real food and I tried to get the best nutritional balance possible for the calories (which is more like 1,000, all told).

Why did you decide to go down this route to lose weight?

It’s really not that simple.

There have been some studies that show obesity is more likely in people whose parents/ grandparents have been malnourished.

likewise, cases of anxiety higher in the descendants of holocaust survivors.

but that doesn’t mean you can point to one person ( who is overweight) going on a crash diet and say with any certainty their offspring will be more likely to be obese.

there are also going to be social factors at play too. If the person who experienced famine is the one who feeds you growing up, so you think they won’t have some kind of disordered view of food? That going to have an effect.

What’s a typical days food for you?

Thankyou and good luck to you too 🥰

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I think it sounds fine as it’s for a limited time and has been recommended by your GP, good luck OP, I hope it helps you have a healthier diet after.