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650 kal a day

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Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 12:10

For 2 months iv been on a vlcd consuming 650 kcal a day and lost 2 stone - AMA

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Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 18:51

Frequency · 11/07/2024 18:50

I'm usually one of the first to discourage people from doing VLCD but OP is doing it at the suggestion of, and under the supervision of, her GP. It's a bit different from the average, competitive undereating MNetter.

It's true that many people regain the weight after a VLCD but that is true of any diet. OP will never know if she is one of the ones who succeeds unless she tries.

I wish you luck OP and well done on what you've achieved so far.

Thankyou ❤️

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Begsthequestion · 11/07/2024 19:00

Good luck op

Also I've seen a few posters warn about "starvation mode" but this has long been debunked.

Eating low calorie amounts does not lead to weight gain, because that's not how our bodies work.

Trainntrack · 11/07/2024 19:05

fieldsofbutterflies · 11/07/2024 16:52

I hate how critical people are on this thread.

Overweight people are always told to go to their GP's and get help - OP has done exactly done and is, under close supervision, on a diet recommended by a medical professional, and apparently that's still not good enough for MN Hmm

A lot of GPs do not have expert or update knowledge on nutrition or the science around obesity.

DickJagger · 11/07/2024 19:19

Are you very short OP? Having read the thread from the start I assumed you were 20 plus stone, given all the health issues you described, so I am surprised to read that you started out at just 14.5 stone.

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 19:33

DickJagger · 11/07/2024 19:19

Are you very short OP? Having read the thread from the start I assumed you were 20 plus stone, given all the health issues you described, so I am surprised to read that you started out at just 14.5 stone.

I'm only 5ft 2, I also have a lot of medical issues well before I gained weight it's just they have been made worse by gaining weight

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DickJagger · 11/07/2024 19:43

I'm only 5ft 2, I also have a lot of medical issues well before I gained weight it's just they have been made worse by gaining weight

Thanks for replying to me.

Best of luck with your remaining 4 weeks Smile

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 19:46

DickJagger · 11/07/2024 19:43

I'm only 5ft 2, I also have a lot of medical issues well before I gained weight it's just they have been made worse by gaining weight

Thanks for replying to me.

Best of luck with your remaining 4 weeks Smile

Thankyou

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Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 11/07/2024 20:07

I am also short and it's true that it's very hard to get your weight down and calories down when you are a short middle-aged woman.

I just think the thread title doesn't really reflect what's going on here or what's being described, it just makes it seem like 650 cals is fine to eat for a day and really that's not true for almost everyone in most situations.

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 20:12

Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 11/07/2024 20:07

I am also short and it's true that it's very hard to get your weight down and calories down when you are a short middle-aged woman.

I just think the thread title doesn't really reflect what's going on here or what's being described, it just makes it seem like 650 cals is fine to eat for a day and really that's not true for almost everyone in most situations.

I think because I did it on ama. I didn't want to go into to much detail otherwise nobody would have anything left to ask but iv never posted on ama before so wasn't really sure how it worked

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CandyLeBonBon · 11/07/2024 20:18

It's not actual food like your buy from a supermarket each pack contains 25% of your daily requirements of vitamins and minerals and you have 4 packs a day

Yes. That's the point. There used to be no ACTUAL nutrition or nourishment in the crap you are reconstituting and consuming.

The reason this stuff (see huel etc) is there is to make businesses rich. It's irrelevant that it's only for 12 weeks. You have not retrained your brain or your palate to accept 'proper' food, so after 12 weeks you will very likely revert back to old habits.

As others have said, you do you and I'm glad it's working for now, but shakes and powders cannot fix bad habits.

These things have been going for decades and there's a reason they haven't gone out of fashion.

Honestly op, your gp really doesn't have a clue if they think this is a good, healthy diet.

Alwaystimeforacupoftea · 11/07/2024 20:19

Don't feel too bad about it- it's been an education, plus for you, it seems like the jump-start you need and I also see that handing over responsibility for the calorie count to someone else may also get you started- it's ok to say 'eat healthily' but if you are not a person to whom cooking or even preparing things comes easily, then it can be hard to know where to start. I hope it works out for you and you are able to go on to a better eating plan pretty soon!

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 20:32

CandyLeBonBon · 11/07/2024 20:18

It's not actual food like your buy from a supermarket each pack contains 25% of your daily requirements of vitamins and minerals and you have 4 packs a day

Yes. That's the point. There used to be no ACTUAL nutrition or nourishment in the crap you are reconstituting and consuming.

The reason this stuff (see huel etc) is there is to make businesses rich. It's irrelevant that it's only for 12 weeks. You have not retrained your brain or your palate to accept 'proper' food, so after 12 weeks you will very likely revert back to old habits.

As others have said, you do you and I'm glad it's working for now, but shakes and powders cannot fix bad habits.

These things have been going for decades and there's a reason they haven't gone out of fashion.

Honestly op, your gp really doesn't have a clue if they think this is a good, healthy diet.

So what would you suggest for weight loss?

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000Zer0 · 11/07/2024 20:36

Sorry if this is repeating what anyone else has asked, but my Qs are:

Do you feel hungry? If so, how do you keep going?

What did your daily intake used to
look like before starting this diet plan?

TY!

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 20:39

000Zer0 · 11/07/2024 20:36

Sorry if this is repeating what anyone else has asked, but my Qs are:

Do you feel hungry? If so, how do you keep going?

What did your daily intake used to
look like before starting this diet plan?

TY!

I only felt hungry the day 2 and 3 after that I was fine. I get hungry before I'm due a pack nothing extreme just like hunger for a meal. I was eating multiple takeaways a week, a lot of snacks and carb heavy meals that would feed a small village

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EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/07/2024 21:53

BezMills · 11/07/2024 14:36

OP : Ask Me Anything
Mumsnet : Tells You Everything

Sounds like a fun new sub forum, Im doing xy thing mumsnet doesn't approve of, tell me everything... well fun for those reading, maybe not the OP so much 😁.

Frequency · 11/07/2024 21:54

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 20:32

So what would you suggest for weight loss?

I think, but I am not 100% certain, the most effective diet is slow and steady. If you eat 3000 calories a day atm then cut to 2700 a day for 2 weeks, then 2500, etc.

It's a lot easier to sustain small changes than it is to sustain massive changes. However, for someone who needs to lose a lot of weight quickly for their health, this approach isn't going to be right for them. It would take a year or more to lose 2 stone doing this.

CandyLeBonBon · 11/07/2024 22:12

@Differentstarts I'd suggest eating a Mediterranean diet tbh. Unprocessed, avoiding too many starchy carbs, making sure you're eating whole, fresh foods cooked from scratch. I lost 16kg 2 years ago doing just that and I didn't have to restrict myself to 650kg per day or eat packaged reconstituted crap.

Im 5'1" as well. I know how hard it can be, but honestly these meal replacement programs really aren't helpful in the long term.

Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 22:16

CandyLeBonBon · 11/07/2024 22:12

@Differentstarts I'd suggest eating a Mediterranean diet tbh. Unprocessed, avoiding too many starchy carbs, making sure you're eating whole, fresh foods cooked from scratch. I lost 16kg 2 years ago doing just that and I didn't have to restrict myself to 650kg per day or eat packaged reconstituted crap.

Im 5'1" as well. I know how hard it can be, but honestly these meal replacement programs really aren't helpful in the long term.

But why can't I do that in 4 weeks when I finish this plan.

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Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 22:18

Frequency · 11/07/2024 21:54

I think, but I am not 100% certain, the most effective diet is slow and steady. If you eat 3000 calories a day atm then cut to 2700 a day for 2 weeks, then 2500, etc.

It's a lot easier to sustain small changes than it is to sustain massive changes. However, for someone who needs to lose a lot of weight quickly for their health, this approach isn't going to be right for them. It would take a year or more to lose 2 stone doing this.

Exactly which is why I plan on doing the 12 weeks lose about 3 stone then do calorie counting. The diet doesn't end at 12 weeks you just change it

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Differentstarts · 11/07/2024 22:21

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/07/2024 21:53

Sounds like a fun new sub forum, Im doing xy thing mumsnet doesn't approve of, tell me everything... well fun for those reading, maybe not the OP so much 😁.

🤣🤣🤣 I don't mind. I knew some people have strong opinions about these types of diets. What I don't understand is why people think you do it for 12 weeks and then go back to how you ate before and regain the weight.

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Begsthequestion · 12/07/2024 07:11

I'm not sure some posters understand how much research has gone into this diet programme. They seem to think your GP made it up just for you, when actually it's a nationally approved NHS weight loss plan.

Op keep on listening to the experts and ignore the armchair analysts insisting they know better, because they don't.

Trainntrack · 12/07/2024 07:25

Begsthequestion · 12/07/2024 07:11

I'm not sure some posters understand how much research has gone into this diet programme. They seem to think your GP made it up just for you, when actually it's a nationally approved NHS weight loss plan.

Op keep on listening to the experts and ignore the armchair analysts insisting they know better, because they don't.

The NHS still recommend the Eatwell Guide which is very out of date now. I don’t think many GPs are up to date at all with current research on nutrition and obesity etc.

GoldFrame · 12/07/2024 08:19

As I understand it these VLCD, medically supervised are to kickstart weight loss in very oversight people who really need to lose weight for medical reasons?

Differentstarts · 12/07/2024 09:07

GoldFrame · 12/07/2024 08:19

As I understand it these VLCD, medically supervised are to kickstart weight loss in very oversight people who really need to lose weight for medical reasons?

This is exactly right then the actual dieting starts at the end of the 12 weeks

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Iloveyoubut · 12/07/2024 18:48

Cracks me up that so many people get their knickers in a twist about you being 1500 calories or whatever under your recommended intake whilst frantically improving your health whilst they wouldn’t give a shit if you were 1500 calories over your recommended daily intake. Well done OP! I’m so happy for you! 👏👏👏