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AMA Income over £500k

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AMAIncomeRelated · 03/03/2024 11:39

Following the thread on the disadvantages of earning just over £50k, it got me thinking that if some people think that is a huge amount to earn, what do they think of my life.

We live in North London. Husband earns a lot, over £500k most years. We live in a big house, with a huge mortgage, 3 children at private school, 3 dogs, own a ski chalet which is let out as well as for our use. I don't work, I did try a part time job 5 years ago and whilst I loved it, it cause too much stress at home because my husband is used to me doing everything.

We obviously live very comfortably, but also there are lots of things we'd like to do but can't afford the big projects at the moment. My husbands job is very stressful.

AMA. I am absolutely not gloating, I know only too well how fortunate we are.

OP posts:
AMAIncomeRelated · 04/03/2024 12:33

scatteredgreymatter · 04/03/2024 12:24

sorry, poor wording choice.

We don't feel excessively wealthy and I assume that without my salary, which is low/just under 6 figures, we would feel quite a bit less so. My point was that with similar circumstances I am a bit surprised the OP doesn't feel the push to work, because I always feel that I need to. As she points out, the cost of certain things, which are choices (big mortgage and school fees) adds up very quickly, leaving you feeling yes comfortably off, but not rolling in it insanely wealthy by any stretch at all.

We have a similar lifestyle and make similar economies to what the OP describes. Dupes, etc whilst driving a highish end car. Not just flashing it around the whole time.

The difference now I think to me working is that I couldn't make a material difference when you factor in the extra costs. I could only go back to my career job by doing it full time - it's a hard role to do part time because you're never there when inevitably needed.

Also I've been out of it so long I doubt I'd get a look in.

So anything I think I could get now really wouldn't pay anything like you earn. The airbnb brings in a good steady small extra bit of cash, which again I wouldn't have time to manage if I was working.

I could retrain, but I'm pushing late forties, my husband will retire in under 10 years probably, then we plan to be much free-er to travel and enjoy life. If I started a new career after a period or retraining, I feel like I'd just be starting when he's finishing.

We might sell this house, buy an easy to maintain apartment somewhere or a smaller house, free up some cash and change direction.

OP posts:
LaChienneDesFromages · 04/03/2024 12:34

ChristianHornersGlisteningFinger · 04/03/2024 09:52

The one thing it has reminded me of is how pleased I am that we escaped the North London bubble. DH grew up in The Wood and said he would never raise his kids like that.

I have lived in North London for eight years, and have a child in private school here, but I have no idea what or where “The Wood” is! Can you explain @LaChienneDesFromages ?

Sorry. St John’s Wood. I realise now this might be a family term, not the widely used affectionate nickname for the area! Although DMIL’s neighbours have adopted it too (I’m on the Square WhatsApp group for reasons I’ve not fully worked out.) When DPILS moved there 50 years ago, an older friend, resident of Eaton Square commented ‘oh yes, I did hear there are now people living north of The Park.’

LaChienneDesFromages · 04/03/2024 12:38

3WildOnes · 04/03/2024 10:20

I thought it referred to St John's Wood?

Yay! Maybe it’s not just us. Although you might be DIL’s next door neighbour of course (apols for the cat, if you are.)

CognitiveBehaviouralHypnotherapy · 04/03/2024 12:39

@AMAIncomeRelated what do you mean by ‘change direction’?

We might sell this house, buy an easy to maintain apartment somewhere or a smaller house, free up some cash and change direction.

scatteredgreymatter · 04/03/2024 12:43

AMAIncomeRelated · 04/03/2024 12:33

The difference now I think to me working is that I couldn't make a material difference when you factor in the extra costs. I could only go back to my career job by doing it full time - it's a hard role to do part time because you're never there when inevitably needed.

Also I've been out of it so long I doubt I'd get a look in.

So anything I think I could get now really wouldn't pay anything like you earn. The airbnb brings in a good steady small extra bit of cash, which again I wouldn't have time to manage if I was working.

I could retrain, but I'm pushing late forties, my husband will retire in under 10 years probably, then we plan to be much free-er to travel and enjoy life. If I started a new career after a period or retraining, I feel like I'd just be starting when he's finishing.

We might sell this house, buy an easy to maintain apartment somewhere or a smaller house, free up some cash and change direction.

Makes sense. Also, I'm younger with younger children. So maybe I will get to the point after we have had this level of income for a few more years where perhaps I will stop. Things like 3 dogs, we haven't committed to partly as we don't have the time to deal with!

LondonPapa · 04/03/2024 12:45

Whereismyperiod2 · 04/03/2024 12:18

OP, my husband works in the same industry and he earns well but not that well. I just mentioned your household income. He was surprised your DH earns that much in that role, even if v, v senior. He is friends with colleagues who are among the most senior in his company, for instance. I said you’re probably protecting your anonymity through vagueness of course but he wondered if your DH tops up his salary through shares in his company and things like that etc. I’d be really interested to know if this is the case. Tbf, I don’t fully understand my DH’s earnings when he tries to explain the streams through his investments etc. Before anyone says “What about your income?” which always crops up on these threads, my income is pretty straightforward just through my salary but I’d love to diversify it. I’m pretty savvy with my pension and savings but investing scares me. My husband is far more risky on the other hand.

Thank you for the thread btw!

Investment manager with specific client base screams boutique firm. I know a couple of guys working in such fields with similar earnings and then some, usually have a CFA and other certs. It's possible in the BBs but it is more common outside in smaller firms servicing target clients.

penguinbiscuits · 04/03/2024 13:00

OP your last post is extremely outing, are you not bothered? 😃 just curious.

(Btw our mortgage is £9kSad so I know how you feel there).

Sighhhhh · 04/03/2024 13:05

@Spirallingdownwards considering my income, and even if my income was much less than what it is, I need not be jealous. And certainly not jealous of someone on the Internet.

Even your response to me shows you think the poor are out to attack and criticise “you, the OP and the rest of the Wealthy”. Not everything is judgement or disbelief of high income households so I’m confused by your snippy responses.

I think the OP’s thread is interesting.

GratitudeGoddess · 04/03/2024 13:13

What sort of holidays do you go on each year?

Where's been your favourite?

Basilandmandarin · 04/03/2024 13:14

He wouldn't be able to have the career he has if I wasn't at home keeping things calm and organised.

Why not? I’m really struggling to understand this.

drumbeats · 04/03/2024 13:20

Basilandmandarin · 04/03/2024 13:14

He wouldn't be able to have the career he has if I wasn't at home keeping things calm and organised.

Why not? I’m really struggling to understand this.

Really? Do you not do anything domestic? If you did you would realise that the management of a house and family is hugely time consuming and mentally taxing.

Do you really not think working parents struggle? School holidays are a nightmare as are days when the dc are unwell. Organising repairs, holidays navigating school events, even maintaining their uniforms and what they need on a daily basis is exhausting. Taking dc to extra curricular events, doctors and dentists, and play dates. Cooking meals and doing everything so he can go to work and come home and not think about anything wise.

drumbeats · 04/03/2024 13:22

penguinbiscuits · 04/03/2024 13:00

OP your last post is extremely outing, are you not bothered? 😃 just curious.

(Btw our mortgage is £9kSad so I know how you feel there).

Other than the Airbnb nothing else the OP has said is particularly unique. Possibly even the Airbnb

Basilandmandarin · 04/03/2024 13:28

drumbeats · 04/03/2024 13:20

Really? Do you not do anything domestic? If you did you would realise that the management of a house and family is hugely time consuming and mentally taxing.

Do you really not think working parents struggle? School holidays are a nightmare as are days when the dc are unwell. Organising repairs, holidays navigating school events, even maintaining their uniforms and what they need on a daily basis is exhausting. Taking dc to extra curricular events, doctors and dentists, and play dates. Cooking meals and doing everything so he can go to work and come home and not think about anything wise.

I do everything domestic. And work full time.

I manage. It’s hard. It’s exhausting. But it’s doable. It’s the bare fucking minimum of being an adult and a parent. and A LOT of parents, wether single or married can run a house and work.

I’m still none the wiser how OP’s husband wouldn’t be able to keep the home “calm and organised” if she want there. I’m baffled by it.

penguinbiscuits · 04/03/2024 13:28

@drumbeats she said what her and husband did at uni, what jobs they both worked at.

Her approx age, number of kids and the primary/secondary school ages. She mentioned how some kids did state schools for primary.

Her cars (oldish Volvo model and a mini).

Her ski chalet in France, and that they're there 2 weeks in winter, in summer, and some weekends during the year.

Her charity work positions.

She mentioned no cleaner and a gardener. If I knew OP in real life I would have spotted her for sure.

penguinbiscuits · 04/03/2024 13:29

Add that with a studio Airbnb, it really makes it obvious if someone on here reading this knows the OP

AMAIncomeRelated · 04/03/2024 13:35

Basilandmandarin · 04/03/2024 13:28

I do everything domestic. And work full time.

I manage. It’s hard. It’s exhausting. But it’s doable. It’s the bare fucking minimum of being an adult and a parent. and A LOT of parents, wether single or married can run a house and work.

I’m still none the wiser how OP’s husband wouldn’t be able to keep the home “calm and organised” if she want there. I’m baffled by it.

I can imagine how hard it is. I’ve just never managed to balance it all. I’m in awe really of people that do manage to do all of it.

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AlwaysGinPlease · 04/03/2024 13:35

PinkiOcelot · 03/03/2024 11:42

What is the point of this post?

This. Why exactly do you think anyone is interested OP? AMAs are usually really informative subjects with people like the Palliative care nurse the other day.

AnimalFlow · 04/03/2024 13:43

I'm bemused at the number of posters who post on the thread saying how pointless it it. Why click on the thread. It's really clear from the thread title what it's about.

drumbeats · 04/03/2024 13:45

@AlwaysGinPlease This. Why exactly do you think anyone is interested OP? AMAs are usually really informative subjects with people like the Palliative care nurse the other day.
Are you serious? I've seen AMA about all sorts of topics from 'I'm a kept woman' to 'I'm on only fans'

drumbeats · 04/03/2024 13:49

@Basilandmandarin because unlike your probable job, some jobs require 12-14 hour days, overseas business trips for a week or two with little or no notice and no ability to take random days off. My dh had a job like this. He earned multiples of what OPs does and we have a lively life but my closest friends who saw the reality of how little he could do domestically admitted it wasn't something they could deal with. All jobs aren't the same. You don't get paid hundreds of thousands or millions without having to sell your soul. Is it worth it? Some would say yes some would say no.

AlwaysGinPlease · 04/03/2024 13:51

@drumbeats oh wow 🤣 I haven't , I find it all a bit narcissistic tbh so I usually avoid "I'm so cool and unusual ask me anything"

BlueMonday1977 · 04/03/2024 13:53

My boss earns close to 1M a year through his various businesses and his wife earns even more. They rarely see each other - their assistants have to find time in their diaries for evening events, holidays etc. Sometimes they try and make the same train home but its a rarity. They work long hours but they get all the comforts around that - cleaner, housekeeper, dog walker, nutritious lunches brought to their desk, personal trainer, taxi home after evening events. They have houses overseas so can fly out to enjoy the sun for a weekend. So I do not feel remotely bad for logging out dead on 5pm and going home when he works until 11pm!

BlueMonday1977 · 04/03/2024 13:54

Basilandmandarin · 04/03/2024 13:14

He wouldn't be able to have the career he has if I wasn't at home keeping things calm and organised.

Why not? I’m really struggling to understand this.

This.

You pay people to do that!

3WildOnes · 04/03/2024 14:10

LaChienneDesFromages · 04/03/2024 12:38

Yay! Maybe it’s not just us. Although you might be DIL’s next door neighbour of course (apols for the cat, if you are.)

I think it is quite a common local saying!

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 04/03/2024 14:16

BlueMonday1977 · 04/03/2024 13:54

This.

You pay people to do that!

The OP has already says she WANTS to be at home with her children. She does not want to pack her kids off to wraparound care. She does not want to employ someone else to look after them. She wants them to have the luxury of coming home from school to their own home and presumably being able to do the activities they enjoy iwithout having to fit everything in at weekends.

Im struggling as to why you find this difficult to understand.

Your ‘difficulty’ is nothing more than sour grapes.

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