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Extinction rebellion protester, ask me anything

525 replies

Market1 · 31/07/2023 23:57

I support extinction rebellion protests, ask me anything you like - ( I have a very thick skin, nothing you say will upset me)

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Missingmyusername · 02/08/2023 18:08

user9630721458 · 01/08/2023 00:12

I really appreciate what you do. Takes courage and integrity, and there's nothing more important to campaign for. I can't understand why people don't want a better future for themselves and their families.

All of this ^. 👏🏻

Justonemorecoffeeplease · 02/08/2023 18:14

That’s not what I asked.

loislovesstewie · 02/08/2023 18:18

It's like being in a cult ,isn't it?

Darker · 02/08/2023 18:20

loislovesstewie · 02/08/2023 18:18

It's like being in a cult ,isn't it?

Do you mean the cult of the mumsnet pile-on?

loislovesstewie · 02/08/2023 18:21

No, the cult of persuading yourself that annoying ordinary people is getting people on your side.

Darker · 02/08/2023 18:33

just simmering…

Extinction rebellion protester, ask me anything
cuckyplunt · 02/08/2023 18:34

I support what you do.
Anyone who has children and is not desperately worried about climate change is completely deluded.

JasonOsCubanHeels · 02/08/2023 18:49

LightSpeeds · 02/08/2023 18:00

If you take a holiday in the UK, how do you get there?

OP holidays/teaches in Africa. Staycations are not for her.

user9630721458 · 02/08/2023 22:02

cuckyplunt · 02/08/2023 18:34

I support what you do.
Anyone who has children and is not desperately worried about climate change is completely deluded.

I agree, it's terrible to think of what they might live through. Terrible what previous generations have done to them.

Hawkins009 · 02/08/2023 22:49

Market1 · 02/08/2023 18:05

Everyone has a right to demonstrate! That is democracy.

"Protesting is legal in England and Wales, the right to protest is protected under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, this only applies to peaceful protest and does not extend to any violence inflicted or damage caused during a protest."

However it doesn't make it right when lives are put at risk in the here and now by blocking roads,

biscoffy · 02/08/2023 23:00

After that little tale, I don't believe you've spend a single minute in a police cell to be honest. They let you choose a book! Hilarious.

crackofdoom · 02/08/2023 23:02

That tallies exactly with the accounts I've heard from pretty much every other XR protester who's been arrested.

Hawkins009 · 02/08/2023 23:44

Are all the protestors trying to be the next Greta ?

StBrides · 03/08/2023 00:51

Hawkins009 · 02/08/2023 22:49

"Protesting is legal in England and Wales, the right to protest is protected under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, this only applies to peaceful protest and does not extend to any violence inflicted or damage caused during a protest."

However it doesn't make it right when lives are put at risk in the here and now by blocking roads,

Many of the rights we have are because people protested for decades. It's worth being late for work.

Hawkins009 · 03/08/2023 00:58

StBrides · 03/08/2023 00:51

Many of the rights we have are because people protested for decades. It's worth being late for work.

Not when it's emergency services being grid locked or medical appointments etc.

How would the protestors be if it was them needing an emergency hospital appointment, and someone was holding up traffic for protesting climate change. Etc.

ProperChocolate · 03/08/2023 01:23

Also still waiting for precise details how a parent with a sick child in the car can get through?

I'm waiting on this too. I've had to transport my epileptic daughter, in major seizure, to hospital on numerous occasions, and I mean more than a dozen, when the visiting GP has told me to take her in my car as any delay waiting for an ambulance could result in permanent brain damage. If the seizure was allowed to go on untreated for another 30 minutes it could even result in death. The GP accompanied us in my car. My husband drove.

Had we encountered any of these utterly and completely brainless, thoughtless, simple minded idiots along the way, she could have suffered permanent brain damage because of them. She already has significant LD so maybe that doesn't matter. Or she could have died.

But hey, it's for the greater good, apparently.
Doesn't actually get many people on their side though, does it?

MichelleScarn · 03/08/2023 01:32

Ah but @ProperChocolate our little lives don't count at all remember, we've to think naught of our sick child, but of the 'greater good' and clap and cheer these blockades. I've only had to experience that dreadful journey once so cannot imagine how you've had it.

ProperChocolate · 03/08/2023 03:04

Yet it is they who have decided to damage the lives of hardworking people who now msotl detest them with visceral hatred for stopping people getting to work, for all the money people lose because they are late for work etc etc. The fact they are rich enough or lazy enough to have all that time available to them to block roads is the icing on the cake entrenching our intense dislike of the lot of them

It's true. I absolutely despise them for not having the gorm to see that they are going about things totally the wrong way to attract any support. I simply do not have the free time to glue myself to a road. Nobody I know has time to glue themselves to roads. I personally do not admire anybody who thinks holding up traffic is a good idea. Nobody drives just for fun. Lorries deliver stuff. Care givers are visiting the sick and old, getting them up and dressed, and district nurses on their way to change leg dressings etc. Taking kids to school, dropping off shopping for an elderly neighbour, taking folks for hospital appointments. People who have to be at work on time. People who have been working all day and want to go home.
On two occasions when family members were mortally sick I had to hotfoot it up the A1 and hoped I got there in time. Fortunately there were no idiots on the road to fuck up our progress.

Nobody, but nobody, is on the road for shits and giggles. I think I can speak for the vast majority here. We would not be on the bloody road if we had a non driving option.

I just cannot understand why a group who claims to be doing what they do to get the whole of the UK on their side, would engage in activities that make most of the UK totally pissed off with them and most definitely not on their side.

I completely agree that climate change is a serious threat, and that action must be taken. But, chaps, honestly, that's not the way to do it. I mean, having a queue of traffic on engine tickover for hours isn't exactly environmentally friendly.
I have been in those queues and after 3 hours and dying for a pee, have had to pee in a water bottle and tip it out the window. One by one, my car mates did the same. A diabetic friend was relying on buying a sandwich from a services.
No chance. Held up by idiots. I fortunately had a kit kat on hand which kept her going for a bit.

Of the several thousand people who were inconvenienced, some were seriously traumatised because a loved one died before they got there. Some missed a funeral. Some missed a wedding. Some just didn't turn up for a birthday party.
Some lost out money on hotel bookings. Some lonely elderly people had relatives visits cut short.

I mean, OP, can you really overlook all that?

Knowing what I know about life, and people, I really could not do the things
ER do. I see it as making innocent people suffer. If you are so committed then find a better way to get people on your side.

ProperChocolate · 03/08/2023 03:46

as I have already answered, make yourself known, and we will try to help, but if you own and drive a car, you are not demonstrating much concern for the health or lives of anyone else's children, so I don't really think you are in a position criticise anyone else.

So I have a child in my car who is within minutes of being brain damaged.
(status epilepticus)
And we have to answer to you, who is actually a stirring little nobody, to let us pass to get to the hospital. If that is your stance, and you are very sure that you can get emergency cases through spit spot, then what is the point?

Oh for goodness sake. Can you not see?

Whilst I agree totally that steps must be taken regarding climate change . . . .
You are gong about it the wrong way.

This ER stuff, is just a bit stupid, in my opinion.
It helps nobody.

Mostrecentupdate · 03/08/2023 05:23

May I ask what people do think should happen in terms of what we should be doing to raise awareness and protest against the effects of global warming?

for every single person who has been inconvenienced in a big or small way because of XR or SO the effects of global warming on our children and grandchildren is going to be catastrophic if we do nothing, and maybe it is too late already? As a collective group mumsnet are mostly parents and many are grandparents and we love our children but seem happy to do nothing about something that will be life changing for them because of our generation’s actions.

The vitriol towards 1 woman one here towards who is actually doing something, and you may not agree with how she’s doing it, but at least she’s doing something, should be directed at the government who are doing fuck all.

Mostrecentupdate · 03/08/2023 05:25

And the ‘gotcha’ comments on here towards OP on here are ridiculous. As someone else on here said you don’t have to be perfect to protest.

Mostrecentupdate · 03/08/2023 06:15

There’s another thread on here about what people won’t give up due to climate change and seemingly in most cases not very much.

Do people just think nothing is going to happen, that it’s all made up? People on here talking about not being able to survive without cars, flights, bloody tumble driers… the list goes on. If we don’t change our habits then maybe it’s already too late but at least OP is doing something.

loislovesstewie · 03/08/2023 07:18

I've already said several times the reasons why this lot don't have my support. I came to the conclusion that they find it easier to feel something for people who are several thousand miles away rather than the poor sod who lives in the same street/town/city.I'm viewed as a privileged person because I have a car, which I use mostly for essential journeys,[ shopping, hospital etc] not as what I really am, which is a 67 year old with 2 kids with disabilities who has to spend her retirement dealing with 'the system' . I suspect that the empathy is not flowing this way. I also suspect that lots of the protesters wouldn't give a toss if either of my kids was harmed by their actions.It's easier not to have to deal with me and mine.
I am so angry as well by the idea that it's OK to go to Africa to teach children every other year but me going abroad on holiday for a well deserved break from all this is totally wrong. Believe me a week away from here does wonders for me, I must save the authorities a shed load of money by doing what I do for my kids. But no, my already hard life has got harder , as I'm now supposed to feel ashamed for wanting a trip to Greece or Italy or somewhere.
No, we are none of us perfect, but the responses I have had to my query about how I get my child to A&E are dismissive at best and at worst totally lacking in empathy. It has shown me that my kids are just cannon fodder, collateral damage to these protesters. They are invisible, which is often the case with people who have disabilities. Invisibility. The protesters don't actually care about anything , it's just a game , they pat themselves on the back and go home, or to the cells and consider themselves martyrs to the cause. If it wasn't this, they would do something else , and cause more annoyance.
Well , none of you protesters would get my vote, you've turned me against you by your smug,self satisfied, pat on the back, attitude, by your lack of empathy for your neighbour who is struggling day to day, and also your excuses about your own lives.
Sorry to be so angry, I'm normally much calmer. Now off for another day battling bureaucracy. Perhaps an eco warrior could help me ?

biscoffy · 03/08/2023 08:31

@loislovesstewie I am so sorry that these XR wankers, and some of the other posters on here, have made you feel like you should be ashamed and justifying your actions.

Darker · 03/08/2023 09:08

I also suspect that lots of the protesters wouldn't give a toss if either of my kids was harmed by their actions.It'sier not to have to deal with me and mine.

Suggesting that XR people don’t care is just wrong. Gently, you are making a lot of very unpleasant assumptions about people who you have never met.

XR isn’t a fixed entity- it evolves and adapts. It changed its tactics around disruption a few months ago.

https://atmos.earth/extinction-rebellion-climage-change-protest-civil-disobedience-disruption/

Is Extinction Rebellion Right To Move Beyond Disruptive Tactics?

XR says its decision indicates a willingness to listen to criticism, and adapt. Others say it undermines the movement’s potential for change.

https://atmos.earth/extinction-rebellion-climage-change-protest-civil-disobedience-disruption/