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AMA

Extinction rebellion protester, ask me anything

525 replies

Market1 · 31/07/2023 23:57

I support extinction rebellion protests, ask me anything you like - ( I have a very thick skin, nothing you say will upset me)

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Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:12

Justonemorecoffeeplease · 01/08/2023 09:57

I’ll ask again as my post was so similar…

Do you think by disrupting ordinary lives at sometimes life changing moments is worth it? The way XR, JSO and IB have conducted themselves has truly alienated me. I can’t have that time again with my mother.

You are not helping the cause. Put effort into the solution.

yes, of course I think protests are worth it, or I wouldn't do them

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WhateverMate · 01/08/2023 10:12

OP you have chosen to do this AMA so will you please answer the question that many, many people have asked - and not in a politician's answer kind of way.

I'll put it in bold if it helps...

HOW do you get sick people on their way to hospital, through miles of traffic jams and out the other side of the protest, if they've managed to 'contact' you or other protesters?

Just how do you manage to part bumper to bumper cars, lorries etc to do this?

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:13

Market1 · 01/08/2023 08:38

I have answered, I am still answering , but skipping over the posts that are the same as posts I have already answered lots of times

I must have missed the post where you said to @Justonemorecoffeeplease

"I'm so sorry to hear about your dad and your mum. The protest was wrong. It should not have happened. It made your grief and pain so much worse than it was already. I'm so sorry that I have advocated for actions that cause you and thousands like you unnecessary grief and hardship."

Could you link me to it please? Tia.

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:13

KnittedCardi · 01/08/2023 09:31

Do you accept though, that anything we do in the UK, is just pissing in the wind. So your disruption of lives here is actually meaningless in the global context and therefore just bloody annoying.

No it isn't pissing in the wind, it all helps, particularly in a democracy.

Every decision makes a difference

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ArseMenagerie · 01/08/2023 10:14

Any chat about climate always descends into a pathetic ‘gotcha’ about emissions. We all live in this imperfect world where it’s impossible to live a meaningful life without creating emissions. How much we are comfortable with is individual and it isn’t helpful to say you can only care about the planet if you’re squeaky clean. It’s the GLOBAL polluters i campaign against: governments, big oil, construction and polluters such as mc d and coke. They have made money from trashing the planet and continue to do so. It isn’t about some flights that individuals take it’s about GLOBAL PRESSURE from the citizens of earth. Squabbling about individual co2 impact demeans and distracts us. We are in an imperfect system: I would take a solar flight but I can’t, I would use renewables only but I can’t, I want to erase single use plastic but I can’t WHY ? Because of big oils grip on media and government.

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:14

Freysimo · 01/08/2023 08:02

Please provide links as the poster asked. I've not seen any evidence that you have the support of the public.

You must have missed the bit where she just made up some numbers off the top of her head. A really excellent teacher.

Splreece78 · 01/08/2023 10:15

Knowing how many supporters are in the pack, has anyone actually tried to build solutions ... It seems more self serving to do what your doing Vs actually sticking your heads and resources together and building solutions to the problems we have??? Or are you all uneducated and useless.

dontjudgemeagain · 01/08/2023 10:15

bendmeoverbackwards · 01/08/2023 09:30

Don’t be ridiculous @dontjudgemeagain. Most people support the cause strongly. They don’t support the actions of these groups which are having no impact on any case.

That's exactly what I'm saying. If you support the cause, what are you doing? Where are you protesting? If there's a better way to protest, why is no-one doing it?

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:15

Justonemorecoffeeplease · 01/08/2023 09:59

Also, do you teach in a state school?

yes, why?

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MichelleScarn · 01/08/2023 10:16

Market1 · 01/08/2023 07:28

speak to them directly, if you can, or ring them, if you know which organisation it is.

Ring them?! How! Will these eco wankers warriors have a helpline number?
Surely they won't have evil polluting mobile phones?

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:17

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:13

No it isn't pissing in the wind, it all helps, particularly in a democracy.

Every decision makes a difference

Why are you ignoring all the people pointing out to you the very real and immediate impact your self-serving 'protests' have had on them?

You've kept people separated from their dying or grieving families.

You've caused people to lose jobs or miss job interviews.

You've caused people to miss life-saving medical treatments.

And yet you come here expecting to be lavished with praise and sprinkling your posts with multiple kisses to everyone who gives you the arse-kissing you think you deserve.

bendmeoverbackwards · 01/08/2023 10:17

dontjudgemeagain · 01/08/2023 10:15

That's exactly what I'm saying. If you support the cause, what are you doing? Where are you protesting? If there's a better way to protest, why is no-one doing it?

I honestly don’t know what the answer is. But I’m also pretty sure that current protests are not working. If I’m wrong about that, please supply evidence to the contrary.

MichelleScarn · 01/08/2023 10:17

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:15

yes, why?

Will your arrests not show up in enhanced disclosure?

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:19

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:15

yes, why?

Do you teach your students that if they are asked for evidence in an exam, what they should do is make up some invented data and present them as fact, without any citation or reference? Would you expect them to pass their exams doing that?

Xenia · 01/08/2023 10:19

I am very against these actions on roads etc. So my question is if you accept humans will be on the planet for in effect the blnk of an eye in historical terms why does it matter if we go a bit sooner due to climate change? Do you put humans above other animals or indeed rocks and if so why?

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:22

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:13

No it isn't pissing in the wind, it all helps, particularly in a democracy.

Every decision makes a difference

How about your decision to post here repeatedly on your device, using electricity and data, just for an ego-stroke?

Upsizer · 01/08/2023 10:23

I just want to say well done - I entirely support you and I’m grateful. I also have friends in ER and they are retired professionals eg teachers/lawyers as you say. I guess they feel they have time and there is little risk to them being arrested at this point in their lives.

People haranguing you about flights etc should put their rage elsewhere. There is still a place for flying in a greener future - but why subsidise it now rather than railways? Why not tax it more heavily instead? It’s senseless corporate greed.

Darker · 01/08/2023 10:25

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:05

So you know nothing about the Canning Town protest that harmed low paid, minority ethnic workers trying to get to work on public transport at 6am?

How convenient.

And how ignorant you are of something of which you claim to be part.

The Canning Town protest wasn’t supported by XR.

Cognitivedisonance · 01/08/2023 10:27

@ArseMenagerie thank you for articulating this so well! So many people take climate protests personally and get defensive so they pick holes in the protesters lifestyle when really what we want is policy changes, investment in solutions, infrastructure that allows sustainable living etc. we don’t want everyone sitting in the dark being miserable! I personally am extremely low impact and I love my lifestyle but I know loads of people who can’t live like me or don’t want to, and that’s fine, the average person isn’t the villain, the corporations and governments are and if enough of the population spoke up and voted with their wallets there’d be no need to continue protesting.

loislovesstewie · 01/08/2023 10:28

MichelleScarn · 01/08/2023 10:16

Ring them?! How! Will these eco wankers warriors have a helpline number?
Surely they won't have evil polluting mobile phones?

Even if all the people who are stuck in the traffic jam created by the eco warriors phoned,NOTHING would happen, there is no way they would get off the carriageway and allow people to go about their lawful business. look at the mother pleading with them recently ,trying to get her baby to hospital. I think they enjoyed that.

Superfood · 01/08/2023 10:30

Darker · 01/08/2023 10:25

The Canning Town protest wasn’t supported by XR.

Errrr, it was in fact the work of XR protestors. They subsequently'disowned' it when they realised quite how sickened the vast majority of people were at the sight of overprivileged white men prancing around preventing low paid, primarily minority ethnic workers from getting to work BY PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

XR are nothing if not dishonest, self-serving liars.

tattygrl · 01/08/2023 10:33

Just want to say thank you and well done. A great many people understand that protests need to be disruptive, and aren't fussed about "ordinary people" being a bit disgruntled if it means FINALLY drawing attention to the urgency of the climate crisis.

To those people moaning that XR causes disruption: for decades the approach to climate education has been: leaflet, documentary, optional courses you can take, mention of it in the curriculum. And guess what? It hasn't fucking worked because it's too easy to ignore.

DiddyHeck · 01/08/2023 10:37

tattygrl · 01/08/2023 10:33

Just want to say thank you and well done. A great many people understand that protests need to be disruptive, and aren't fussed about "ordinary people" being a bit disgruntled if it means FINALLY drawing attention to the urgency of the climate crisis.

To those people moaning that XR causes disruption: for decades the approach to climate education has been: leaflet, documentary, optional courses you can take, mention of it in the curriculum. And guess what? It hasn't fucking worked because it's too easy to ignore.

A great many people understand that protests need to be disruptive, and aren't fussed about "ordinary people" being a bit disgruntled if it means FINALLY drawing attention to the urgency of the climate crisis.

So the sick, dying and vulnerable are just collateral damage?

Lovely.

loislovesstewie · 01/08/2023 10:39

People aren't ' a bit disgruntled' . They are frantic because they can't get to hospital meaning they don't get treatment, might die/ be very ill /disabled/miss the chance to say goodbye to a loved one. They might lose their job, lose money, not be able to pay bills. The knock on effect is huge and immediate.
They haven't won me over;quite the opposite.

Justonemorecoffeeplease · 01/08/2023 10:42

Market1 · 01/08/2023 10:15

yes, why?

Well so do I and I know for certain if I got a criminal record my Head would terminate my teaching contract.

I think the disregard you have for the effects of the protests on the public is actually quite chilling.

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