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I’m the aromantic asexual who’s thread was taken down and I don’t even know why AMA!

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IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 13:58

So I posted it, checked day later no questions, next thing it’s gone.
I have no idea what happened or was said.

So, let’s do this again.

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Suitcaseseverywhere · 22/09/2021 17:26

I don’t understand the aromantic. Can you explain (again) please

Asexual as I understand it is no sex drive? If that’s the case, how do you fit that criteria, because you masturbate? Or do you define it purely in terms of not wanting sex with a person?

beastlyslumber · 22/09/2021 17:27

OK what on earth kind of relationship involves neither "doing stuff together" nor "sex bits"?

All the companionship stuff is 'doing stuff together'. It's not romantic or sexual but it's companionship. I've often thought my ideal set up would be to live with my sisters (like the Brontes or something) so I get that.

But I still don't understand how you can call yourself asexual when you are clearly sexual. Is it just the trend now for people to call themselves things they're not? It does seem like people only 'identify' as things they aren't. Otherwise they'd just be them, I suppose.

beastlyslumber · 22/09/2021 17:33

Would you suggest a gay/lesbian person 'get themselves checked out?'

No of course not. But why are you comparing a medical condition (lack of sex drive) to a sexual orientation? Seems a bit homophobic.

Asexuality isn't a sexuality. Obviously. It's a lack of sexuality. Because we humans are built to reproduce sexually, not having any sexual feelings/sex drive is very likely to be a symptom of an underlying medical condition.

Luckily, OP isn't asexual, just celibate. She has a sex drive but she chooses not to have sex with others. Celibacy is also not a sexuality, just a choice that some people make.

ShaneTheThird · 22/09/2021 17:34

I have a few questions actually!

Why do you want to live with someone who is essentially just a friend? Isn't a housemate/friend you see every day enough?

Also I am also perversely wondering what you master are too given masturbation is a sexual act but you say you have no sexual feelings.

Do you enjoy watching stuff on TV such as ROM coms even though you don't relate to the feelings at all?

ShaneTheThird · 22/09/2021 17:35

Do you like any romantic things that's not related to sex, so things like being bought flowers or chocolates, bubble baths with candles, rose petals that kind of thing?

NewlyGranny · 22/09/2021 17:36

I was thinking it would be like living with my sister, beastlyslumber!

And I would 100% do that if we were both single. We enjoy each other's company, have loads of laughter and adventures when together and happily roll into our own beds in different rooms at the end of the day.

OP's dilemma is identifying the sibling figure, I guess.

IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 17:39

@BoogalooGirl

God why are previous commenters being so rude?? How obnoxious of them

I'd also love to know why the thread was removed, hate how there's such lack of transparency with MM moderation 😡

Sorry for the response you're getting OP, it's possibly because many people are so self absorbed they can't possibly imagine what it's like being asexual.

Do you ever feel like you're missing out?

Thank you!

Do I feel like I’m missing out?
Yes.
And no.

It’s difficult to miss something you don’t know or crave.
But since romantic and sexual relationships are such prominent part of people’s lives and our society .
It’s not like I’m just not feeling having a dragon fruit.
So it’s impossible to not notice I’m different.
And that is isolating.

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Vinsurvin · 22/09/2021 17:45

I'm asexual and aromantic.

This thread proves why it's so hard to be asexual and aromantic. People either think you're deluded and just haven't met the right person yet, that you're damaged from some kind of trauma and need therapy, or are just giving yourself a 'label' and being attention seeking.

Unless you're aromantic and asexual, it's really hard to understand what it's like.

From my perspective, it's like I've spent my whole life on the outside of society, looking in, utterly bemused by most people's behaviour. Almost like being sober when everyone else is drunk.

I have never desired a romantic relationship. I have never understood why people want one. I have never felt any romantic feelings for anyone, or wanted to be physically close to someone in that way. I hate kissing, I hate being touched and I find the thought of sex repulsive. As such I am also asexual. I experience the physical sensation of being aroused, at certain points in my cycle, and I masturbate and orgasm through masturbation. I don't need to think about anything when I masturbate, though - there's no connection between the masturbation and sexual attraction.

Asexuality and aromanticism are orientations. I was just born this way. I've not experienced any trauma, I like and get on with men very well and have plenty of male friends, I have a close and loving family, have wonderful friends, have done well in my career and have plenty of hobbies and interests. My life feels rich and full and I am certainly capable of feeling love and affection for all the people in my life. I just have no desire to have a romantic or sexual relationship with any of them.

Sometimes I feel sad and lonely - sometimes I wish I could feel what other people feel. It does feel like everyone else has been invited to a party while I've been left at home, unable to join in. It's hard being asexual and aromantic in a world where romantic love is considered to be the ultimate goal in life. I've been single my whole life and I am judged for it, questioned on it, etc. constantly. The world is set up for couples and families and if you don't fit that mould, it's tough. You are seen as abnormal, weird, etc. People who are nasty and dismissive on this thread clearly just don't appreciate what it can feel like to be so different in the way you see and experience the world, and to feel utterly marginalised because of it.

I think in some ways it is worse for me because I am naturally very outgoing, very gregarious and am also very attractive (not bragging, just objectively true, it's made my life difficult actually, as men are always all over me wherever I go). People never believe me when I say I have always been single because there's nothing 'wrong' with me (because obviously there must be something wrong with you if you're not in a relationship), and I am constantly being pestered to go on dates and forced on single friends of friends, etc. I'm always being told 'you just haven't met the right person yet!'. People just don't seem to understand that for me there IS no right person. I just have a total lack of desire for ANYONE and no, that will never change.

OP, I understand how you feel completely. You're not alone!

beastlyslumber · 22/09/2021 17:48

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Tal45 · 22/09/2021 17:49

@beastlyslumber

Would you suggest a gay/lesbian person 'get themselves checked out?'

No of course not. But why are you comparing a medical condition (lack of sex drive) to a sexual orientation? Seems a bit homophobic.

Asexuality isn't a sexuality. Obviously. It's a lack of sexuality. Because we humans are built to reproduce sexually, not having any sexual feelings/sex drive is very likely to be a symptom of an underlying medical condition.

Luckily, OP isn't asexual, just celibate. She has a sex drive but she chooses not to have sex with others. Celibacy is also not a sexuality, just a choice that some people make.

But two gay men can't reproduce sexually so your argument doesn't stack up.

Asexuality is considered an orientation, it's not about having no libido it's about not feeling any inclination to engage in sexual activity with others.

Celibate people might well want to have sex with others but choose not to for religious or other reasons.

In answer to your question OP, I would have no problem with my dc being asexual/bisexual/gay/straight.

IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 17:50

@girljulian

Hello,

I am genuinely interested in your answers here because while asexuality makes perfect sense to me, I think people are defining "aromantic" in lots of different ways so I never quite know what people mean by it. To me, a "romantic" feeling is obviously something that can coexist with a sexual feeling, but it absolutely doesn't have to so one can feel romantic about friends, for example; hence the whole concept of "romantic friendship". So if you want a life partner, who is a best mate, who you've chosen to spend your life with, who you like the best, but you don't want to have sex with them, that makes perfect sense to me, but how is it not romantic? Isn't that what romance is? What do you think romance is?

Maybe I'm just aromantic myself but I have no idea what the weird "other" thing is that would make a close friendship without sex (especially of the best-mates, possessive type) into a romantic asexual relationship.

I have always thought when people said they were ”in love” with their partner was the romantic attraction. Of course there are the romance stuff, gifts etc. Someone wrote something about rose between their teeths, I guess it would be something like thatGrin

To me it would be deep appreciation for eachother.

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IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 17:52

@butterpuffed

I thought I understood what you meant and saw you said 'never had sex and never wanted to' but then you said you have 'too high of a sex drive'. It all sounds very complicated.
It is annoying. Really no point for the libido.
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rainonlarch · 22/09/2021 17:52

Do you like any romantic things that's not related to sex, so things like being bought flowers or chocolates, bubble baths with candles, rose petals that kind of thing?

I'd say the first two aren't romantic but kind gestures. I get flowers from my sister, parents, neighbours, friends. Bubble baths with candles again aren't necessarily romantic. My son has run me a bath and lit my favourite candle when he knew I was having a hard time. Rose petals are about sex though. So I don't think liking those things are an indicator of liking romance

Tal45 · 22/09/2021 17:53

@beastlyslumber

You're not different. There are loads of single women out there. Some want sex and relationships, many do not. You could make friends easily if you stopped insisting that there's something different and special about you that normal people just can't understand.
Where has the OP said she is special? Why do you have such a problem with this? If you think asexuality doesn't exist because you can't understand it (ironically) then that's up to you, but why take it out on the OP?
Wotwhywhen · 22/09/2021 17:57

@Vinsurvin

Great post up there. ❤️

IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 17:59

@helenshair

I find this topic interesting, and even more so because it's clearly hit a raw nerve with so many pps!

My question is: when you say you have a high libido but no sexual attraction to people, what exactly does that mean? Do you have sexual relationships with anyone or do you mean you fantasise about sex but you don't actually want to do it in reality?

Do you mind being the way you are or do you wish you had sexual and romantic feelings for people?

It means that the libido is there, throbbing sensations and all. It just doesn’t ever go towards an other person. Kind of like ready to go, but nowhere to go. It’s really annoying.

No, I don’t have sex.
Never wanted to have it.

Sometimes I wish I could be like most.
Especially when the lonliness hits hard.
Because it’s seems impossible to find what I’m looking for.
And I don’t want to be alone all of my life.

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beastlyslumber · 22/09/2021 18:00

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IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 18:01

@Twilight7777

I saw the original thread and there were loads of questions. I’m wondering what was so wrong with the thread that it needed to be deleted
I really don’t know. I checked the thread the next day, no questions and today I looked again and it was gone.
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butterpuffed · 22/09/2021 18:07

Op hasn't said she feels special let alone 'insisted' on saying that @beastlyslumber .

I feel quite sad for you , OP , especially as you've told nobody . It must be very difficult/lonely for you , I hope you find somebody who is of like mind and knows where you're coming from .

Alfr · 22/09/2021 18:07

If you did find your person, who was happy to give you the relationship you want - but needed to have sex, so slept with other people? Would you feel that they were cheating on you?

girljulian · 22/09/2021 18:09

@IWillFindYou thank you for replying to me.

"I have always thought when people said they were ”in love” with their partner was the romantic attraction.
Of course there are the romance stuff, gifts etc.
Someone wrote something about rose between their teeths, I guess it would be something like thatgrin

To me it would be deep appreciation for eachother."

I don't really know what people mean by "in love"; it's always seemed weirdly nebulous to me. I have just discussed this with my husband and we both agree that the key difference between my relationship with my best friend and his relationship with his best friend is just that he wants to have sex with me but not with his best friend. But we're possessive about our best friends, we get jealous if other people try to get closer to them than we are, etc etc -- a lot of the things that to me signify romance. I think all best friendship is what I understand as "romantic" and I'd happily live together with my best friend forever if my DH died.

So basically I suppose I wonder if you are thinking of "romantic attraction" as something you're missing whereas in fact lots and lots of people don't feel whatever it is you think romantic attraction is either -- if that makes sense.

IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 18:09

@beastlyslumber

I'm not sure how you can be asexual with a "too high sex drive"?

If you have a sex drive you're sexual. By definition.

What's made you think you're asexual? Does it just mean that you're only interested in masturbation on your own? That's still a form of sex life.

Could it be an avoidant personality disorder, or just extreme avoidant attachment style?

No I’m not those.

Libido and attraction are different things.
I just lack sexual attraction towards peole.
Trust me , I have try to summoned it. Nothing.

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Wotwhywhen · 22/09/2021 18:10

@beastlyslumber

Why are you patronising a 35 year old woman? They have 35 years experience of being them, you have 0 experience of being OP, so wind your neb in, re read your posts and ask yourself if you'd say the same to homosexual...

Because you'd get a label, a nasty one, that sees people sacked...

beastlyslumber · 22/09/2021 18:11

@butterpuffed

Op hasn't said she feels special let alone 'insisted' on saying that *@beastlyslumber* .

I feel quite sad for you , OP , especially as you've told nobody . It must be very difficult/lonely for you , I hope you find somebody who is of like mind and knows where you're coming from .

I never said she did.
IWillFindYou · 22/09/2021 18:11

@Congressdingo

It os kind of trying to proof something that isin’t there.
And guess you can never say never.
But 35 is kind of old, yes?
Surely the attraction would have showed up by now?

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