I'm a trans man and local trans activist, AMA

[Sideris]

Hi there, folks.

As the title says, I'm here to respond to questions in good nature.

For a bit of background information, I'm 30 years old, a trans activist out of necessity (being the first 'out' trans person in numerous spaces, which didn't have any rules or regulations before, but have since been commended for ease of process by some new trans members or trans members who have been referred by me), have been 'passing' for about three years, now.

OP, you haven't addressed my point above. Why is my requesting a female medical professional (female as understood in the biological sense) to make me feel safe, as I'm a survivor of child sexual abuse less important than a trans woman having 'the right' to treat me? Why am I 'ridiculous' in this scenario? Why can't I claim the same as you - it's necessary for me to feel right and otherwise I'd be dead?

Yanniv is also targeting a gynaecologist who has said they do not offer gynaecological services to trans women.

Asking OP repeatedly about his rape, and then posting comments like:

Do you actually mean that you’re not able to respond? Because I’ve asked some ignored questions I’d like answers to.

Who do you think you are, honestly? Like I said earlier, I've got no skin in the game and agree with some concerns, whilst think other lines of argument are completely batshit.

But if you think the average person unaware of the debate is reading this thread and will suddenly have their eyes opened by the way so many have you have spoken to OP (like a PP said earlier), and they will decide to speak to trans people in similarly vile ways, I think you're mistaken.

JY is a trans activist and they identify as one. What are the differences between what you, op, are campaigning for and what JY was campaigning for in her lawsuit? Did you agree with any of the (many many ) points she made?

Thank you OP for demonstrating so conclusively that there is absolutely no logic, no consistency, nothing based on fact and definitely no empathy for women in this ideological belief system. You’ve probably done more to make women go “what the fuck???” than any number of threads in FWR. Good work.

This 👆🏼with knobs on.

The first steps are take the opposite hormones.
OP's mental health has been 'sorted' by testosterone and being treated as if a man.
That's a good thing but we shouldn't be changing language and laws to force untruths onto the population. The OP's chromosomes will always be XX - but the trans agenda insists we ignore that.

Thank you for responding to my question, OP. To save scrolling back, I said "What is it that makes you a man, as opposed to being a woman with dysphoria which is alleviated by being perceived/treated 'as a man' by others?"

Neither situation would functionally differ. I am a man by my own identity.

I'm afraid I'm not any closer to understanding. If the situations don't differ, you can't be sure you're in the former and not the latter. If 'identity' is all it takes, then what you're saying is that 'man' and 'woman' have no material basis and are unanchored subjective states which anyone can claim at any time. It's an interesting social constructionist thought experiment which really doesn't hold up when confronted with practical reality.

I honestly don't see how it's different to saying that I identify as someone of a different race, or age, or as Napoleon or an elf or cat. If I sincerely hold that identity and believe it to be true of myself, does that make it true? Is it convincing others to treat me as if it were true that makes it true?

Apologies if this has been answered (but 29 pages is a hefty chunk)

If you were ever incarcerated would you want to be in a male or female prison?

Its pulling the wool over peoples eyes, I think, a massive game of "let's pretend". Except the rest of us are the adults who are supposed to play along and drink the non existing koolaid and eat the poisoned apple.

No.

Just no. Shan't.

Hello. I am a biology teacher. It is becoming more frequent that students identify as trans gender. I still have to teach that

XX = female
XY = male

It's part of the spec and a legal requirement. Is there a term I could use so that I take them into consideration? For example

XX = Biological females? Females at birth?
XY = Biological males? Males at birth?

As well as teaching them to the spec I also need to be inclusive.

Thanks for starting the thread!

I find it baffling that any self respecting group of people can shout 'everyone else should have empathy with me and change because of me' while refusing to have any empathy or try to understand the other viewpoint. It doesn't make sense!

As well as teaching them to the spec I also need to be inclusive

I would just teach the legal requirement tbh. If anyone told me I was 'biologically female, assigned female at birth, a person with a cervix' etc I would be really offended as an alternative to the word you mean... 'female'

You’ve been “barred access to cervical screenings?” What reason where you given? Are you certain it’s not just that you got your doctor to change your medical record to indicate that your sex (which you admit you cannot change) is male, therefore the system didn’t pick you up when identifying patients due for a test only necessary on female bodies? Because if so, that’s not remotely the same as “barring” you...

Were not where, stupid phone

Who are you to say JY is not a real tran person?

Clearly a nasty piece of work, but also, apparently, takes cross sex hormones and is dressing and presenting like a stereotypical woman. What gives you the special ability to determine who is genuine and who is not and how do you measure that? Being a racist troll doesn't preclude them from having the same feelings you do about their body and lived gender.

if you don't think they are genuine, how can you say none of the other transwomen demanding access to women's services and spaces aren't doingthe same thing. Or can't you tell? wait?

Procreation requires, in mammals, a functioning womb, ovaries and semen (largely). It does not require a distinction of one being male or one being female

This is bollocks, OP, or should I call you Humpty Dumpty?

Mammals with functioning wombs and ovaries are female. Mammals able to produce sperm are male. Male and female are the words we use to distinguish between the two sex classes for the purposes of describing reproduction, and sexual orientation.

If words start meaning precisely what the sayer wants them to mean we are truly through the fucking looking glass.

A few questions

1. If you believe that sex is just a construct and doesn't exist, how can you believe yourself to be a homosexual man (ie a man attracted to the male sex)?

2. Using your definition of what makes a man or woman (someone that merely at that point identifies as one) irrespective of how they 'present' how do you know which humans you should be attracted to? I mean, it could be 6 foot muscled be-penised people or a petite busty lady, as both could just as much be men with your definition, and given you aren't a mind reader, wouldn't it be bigoted of you to assume how they feel?

3. Don't you see how this basically eliminates the concept of a sexual orientation? And isn't that rather homophobic?

I would just teach the legal requirement tbh. If anyone told me I was 'biologically female, assigned female at birth, a person with a cervix' etc I would be really offended as an alternative to the word you mean... 'female'

Agreed. That kind of 'inclusive' talk excludes girls.

KnowBetter op had accused a women of 'weaponising' their experience of rape, presumably purely because they are bigoted against trans people.

How do you feel about that.

Procreation requires, in mammals, a functioning womb, ovaries and semen (largely). It does not require a distinction of one being male or one being female

But the only reason the words male and female exist is to describe beings with either wombs or testicles. Why do away with perfectly good neutral words for things?

I fully agree with everyone's right to live as the gender they feel is right for them.i do not however agree with self ID, they needs to be a process like GRC to regulate it.

I believe this because, as with anything, there are people who will exploit self ID for their own gains.

I also whole heartedly believe that natal biological women need to have protections in the form of safe spaces and biological sex segregated sports categories. You talk a lot about cervical smears and the importance to people with a cervix of having smears. Put simply if I cannot request a natal female does the smear, I am not having one. And I am not alone in that requirement. Removing my right to choose who has access to my body would put my life at risk. I am a hugely private person, I have had 1 sexual partner, my DH, I have never been naked in front of any other man and I anticipate no point when that will change.

Some examples of self ID being exploited to the detriment of natal women are below as I know you are fed up of seeing the name Karen White.

Other reported cases of people who were not, prior to incarceration, experiencing gender dysphoria or self IDing as the opposite gender, but have now been moved to women’s prisons:
Sex offenders - Tara (Patrick) Pearsall and Madilyn (Matthew) Harks who committed sexual violence against women. Matthew Harks was charged and found guilty of several instances of paedophilia, while incarcerated in a women’s prison he sexually assaulted 2 young looking inmates (that we’re aware of)
Contract killer Fallon Aubee
Paedophile who sexually assaulted a 3 month old baby - Tara Desousa (Adam Laboucan) - to add insult to injury the women’s prison he is housed in has a mother and baby unit that he has been reported as hanging around.
Jamie John) Boulachanis - armed robber and serial prison escapee employing a number of methods to escape over the course of several years before deciding that identifying as a woman and moving to a women’s prison would be a good idea.

In a men’s prison in Glasgow Tiffany Scott (Andrew Burns) has insisted that only female prison guards can perform strip searches despite having undergone no surgery, hormone treatment or taken any steps besides a name change. Forcing women to handle his naked body whether they are comfortable with it or not.

Jessica Yaniv (Jonathan) - well known on MN

'A persons' rape should never be used as the reason to exclude the whole of a minority group. It should never be used as a weapon at all.'

Quote from op.

OP - you start Any hate isn't and never has been aimed at women, it's the unfair, inhumane treatment we receive.

It is, it has and I dare say we are far more likely to be subject to unfair and inhumane treatment.

Why should we have lose our rights so that you may have yours/feel accepted/feel comfortable?

I want to live and let live but again, not at the expense of my rights.

To cervical screenings. As well as asking simple questions to a gynecologist, let alone easy redirection.

I do sympathise. Health services - any huge administrative structure really, can be an absolute git to navigate, especially if your data does not quite fit the rigid procedures in place. Ask benefit claimants or people dealing with immigration!

So obviously there should be procedures in place for trans people's healthcare. There should be recognised pathways, it should be clear who is responsible and who can be contacted at each stage. And this should be in place not just for transition related health care but for general healthcare as well.

It's possible to come up with these systems without negating reality though. Your sex is one of the most fundamental pieces of information the NHS holds about you (or whatever large scale health system you use - I'm still not clear whether you are in the UK). You are asking to be allowed to fill that box with inaccurate information, thus necessitating many more boxes - has a cervix? has a uterus? has breasts? has a prostate? has ovaries? has testicles? And you are expecting them to make all these new boxes, as well as your inaccurate male/female box, compatible with the old system they have used since forever of just accurately recording male or female.

And then you complain when 'computer says no'.

This is not a simple tweak. So many administrative procedures depend on what's in your records for that male/female box that you are basically asking for the admin system to be rebuilt from the ground up.

I hope you're not in the UK because the NHS is on its knees.

Why not just allow them to record your actual sex and push for the creation of additional fields that will accurately record your health needs as a trans person without fucking up the entire system?

I know this thread has shocked and annoyed many posters.

I know it's sparked all kinds of emotions.

I agree that some posters have been particularly sharp with one another.

But I've learned so much from reading all 29 pages of it this evening, I can't help but feel grateful for it.

Lots of food for thought.

Thank you to everyone who's been a part of this.

Piping down again now (and continuing to follow).