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My children were removed by Social Services. AMA

130 replies

OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 10:41

Obviously nothing that could identify us but I'll be as open and as honest as i can be.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/09/2019 16:35

I'm not sure that this thread is in your best interests, OP. If you still have SS input they might take a dim view of you posting such identifying information on a public forum.

I wish you very well and hope things continue to improve for you and yours.

DonKeyshot · 30/09/2019 16:36

"During that time my childrens abuser accused me of sexually abusing him and i was arrested and bailed for nine months when i was told that there was no evidence and no case to answer"

Flowers for you, OP.

I have seen firsthand the devastation caused by false allegations of sexual abuse and, especially given the prolonged period that you had to wait to be told that you had no case to answer, I'm not surprised you subsequently had a breakdown.

You've had the courage to put your dc's needs before your own and I have no doubt that you will reap a just reward for your selflessness when your dc are fully grown.

DonKeyshot · 30/09/2019 16:39

"Identifying information" , vivaria? Where?

pumkinspicetime · 30/09/2019 16:39

This is a very balanced thread OP. As a social worker it is always beneficial to gain insights from parents. I am very glad you are receiving good therapeutic support.

Gitfeatures · 30/09/2019 16:58

How are the younger 3 dealing with the fact that the eldest will be returning to live with you? Do you think it will alter their sibling relationship or cause issues between them?

What will the new set up be - whose 'parents' will you be living with? Who/what are mow?

OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 17:10

Woah, lots of questions. I'll try my best to answer them.

I no longer live in the house that i lived in with my children. I couldn't stay there, i simply couldn't. So many memories. Too many. So much hurt. It was breaking me, so i had to get out. The DC were removed just before Christmas, around the 18th i think, and i remember after they went just getting in my car and driving. Somewhere. Anywhere. I ended up the other end of the country, staying with a good friend. He'd been there through all the court proceedings and was with me when i told the children that they weren't allowed to live with me anymore. The next few weeks passed in a bit of a blur. I can remember seeing Drs and feeling like i wanted to die. I wasnt useful or productive and I drove hundreds of miles to spend an hour with my babies. Saying goodbye to them was always so hard because it felt - and still does at times - like years until I'd see them again.

Around the time i started seeing my therapist was the time i started getting my life back together again. Dp and i had been FWB for a few years, but somehow it had developed into a proper relationship and he began to come to LAC reviews etc with me. He has been an amazing support and his parents have been wonderful to me. They are all a part of my support network, alongside family that I'd been NC with for several years who have also been incredibly supportive of myself and the children.

So... the house. It was always cluttered. Always. Four kids and there was toys and clothes everywhere. No pets or anything. I had invested in expedit from IKEA, but the younger kids took great delight in emptying all the boxes out everywhere.

I'm disabled. I have osteoarthritis and back problems. I live with chronic pain. I was also a single parent to four very busy children. I was trying to cope with the fallout of the abuse and the effect this had on them. I had to fight tooth and nail for them to get the therapy they needed. It felt like no one would help and there was only so much i could do myself. Some days the washing didnt get done. Those days rolled into one another until i ended up with mountains of dirty washing. Then when that did get done i ended up with mountains of clean washing. Carrying it upstairs was bloody hard when i could barely manage the stairs myself. So the piles mounted up. The kids had bunk beds but i couldnt climb up them to change the bedding so I'm embarrassed to admit that there were times they slept in dirty beds. They really didn't deserve that. They deserved so much more, but at times it was a choice between feeding them or trying to put clean bedding on. I just couldn't manage on my own. I was totally overwhelmed and sinking fast. I couldnt see it. Everyone else could, but i was too proud/ashamed/terrified to ask for help. Homestart came in and told me what i needed to do, but said they couldn't do it for me... i knew what needed to be done, but i physically just couldn't do it. So went the circle. Social services were good with me. Gave me respite but all i could do then was sleep. Everyone could see i was drowning except me.

As for my children's fathers.. DC1 and DC2, their dad died when DC2 was 4 months old. And the day i found out that my children had been abused i also found out that DC3 and 4s dad was a paedophile. We had been married for 28 days. Obviously I threw him out and we're now divorced. DC see him 4 times a year, supervised in a contact centre.

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kateandme · 30/09/2019 17:10

caringcarer ive seen it in far too many cases.i think it happens more often that you think then. ive seen and ehar some atrocious ones.many many of them become almost proffesionals at hiding what they are doing aswell.

OneToughMudderFudder · 30/09/2019 17:18

Was there no support for you all to stay together OP? What was tried before removal? Where was their father?

Not a good outcome for the DC. All separated and multiple placements for all but one of them.

I agree with a PP that your priority should have been getting them back all together rather than getting a new man. Especially after what they were exposed to with a previous one. I know that sounds harsh.

I can't imagine the trauma of the SA then being taken from their home and separated from each other.

OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 17:19

The younger three don't yet know about the eldests return just yet. We're currently working on a words and pictures book to try and explain it sensitively to them. I'm so worried that they'll be upset, but I know it's the best thing for DC1, and to not do it because the others might get upset seems wrong too.

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kateandme · 30/09/2019 17:23

was the stepson who abused your eldest the son of the pedophile?

OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 17:24

I totally take on board your comments about a 'new man' etc, but he's not in the sense that I've known him for many years, and being perfectly honest, if it were not for him and the support i get from him and his parents, then i certainly would not be about to have DC1 coming back to live with us. It's because of him that that can happen. I'm still disabled. I still need help sometimes. I'm certainly not prioritising him over my children.

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OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 17:25

Yes, he was @kateandme

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kateandme · 30/09/2019 17:27

how is he still alowed to see his children!

kateandme · 30/09/2019 17:31

oh golly im sorry.had his dad been abusing him and then him your children.

Supersimkin2 · 30/09/2019 17:32

Are you hoping for more DC with the new man?

Sagradafamiliar · 30/09/2019 17:32

Thanks OP I've known a friend go through this and seen it from the other side in a professional capacity and I know the chaos and trauma involved for it to have gotten to this point.
I'm sorry but I have to say that moving hundreds of miles away the day your children were removed won't bode well for having them return to live with you, nor will the fact your fuck buddy (good friend or different person to the good friend?) saw fit to start a relationship with you once the children were removed and not before.

tiffeycegin · 30/09/2019 17:39

You clearly made the best decision for your children. Such a difficult thing to do though so well done.

OpiesOldLady · 30/09/2019 17:41

Social services seem to be quite happy with everything as it is just now. They obviously know about my move and relationship as they have checked DP out and have beento our house to assess it for suitability for DC1s return. They have found no problems. I have never missed a contact or appointment with them, and i plan my life around contacts so I'm not sure where i live is an issue.

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Redcliff · 30/09/2019 17:41

Wow- I can't belive how harsh some people are being. This isn't AIBU you know.

Kudos to you OP - I am really pleased things are looking up and that you have such a supportive partner. I can see what a positive difference that could make to you and your children. Good luck.

darkriver19886 · 30/09/2019 17:50

OP, I would possibly have this post removed. People can be unkind to families who have children removed.

Welltroddenpath · 30/09/2019 17:51

So sorry to read all of this. With four kids, complex needs for the kids and being on your own with all the other issues it would hard not to fall apart. So sad all round.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 30/09/2019 17:52

You said you're glad your parents can't see the fuck up you've made but you know what, I'm certain they'd have nowt but deep pride for you. You've done amazingly.

All the best x

lostonadustyrock · 30/09/2019 17:59

Thank you for starting this thread OP.
I wish you all the best for your future journey.

MotherOfDragonite · 30/09/2019 18:01

Gosh, this is so so sad. Do you honestly feel that enough support was given to support you and your children at home together before the decision was made to remove them? It just feels like a loving mother and family, even in a messy home, are so much better than numerous placements with different foster families / residential settings.

What if you had been given all of the support that was given to the children post-fostering?

sunshinefinally · 30/09/2019 18:05

Op, this is very sad thing to read but I'm so glad ur getting the help you and your children need! I wish you nothing but the best and you and your children happinesses! I don't have a question I'm sorry I just couldn't read without wishing you happiness Thanks