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My OH earns millions AMA

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scumbagmillionaire · 17/07/2018 08:48

Just that really. I'm a SAHM. He's earned over a million pounds for the last few years. 7 last year probs not as much this year. Presume I will get a lot of abuse but do think that there are a lot of misconceptions as to.how much money it really is after tax and what sort of person you are so....

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WhatATimeToBeAlive · 17/07/2018 10:54

How many hours a week does your husband work?

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:01

Well this is interesting for me.

I am a woman and mother and, get this, not defined by my OH's work.

I happen to be an investment banker (yes, woman can do it too).

The salaries are massively overpaid, with bonuses in particular. I do what I do because I love the thrill of the markets, but I don't agree that my time is worth more than a person who cleans my office. Absolutely not.

I give in abundance to charity and get involved in hands on charity work too, honestly the biggest blessing of my fancy job is being able to do this.

To the pp who mentioned sponsoring two kids to go to school in Africa, please know, you are giving those children a life. I have seen this and can tell you, you are changing the world. It's a beautiful thing to do. The kids know that someone has decided to care about them, that is as valuable to them as education and practical support.

For taxes, yes it's PAYE over a certain rate. I'm with a large institution, I stick with that, plus manage my own investments. I don't need to obsess over it because I have food, shelter, clean water, there we go, everything else is extra. So I invest, but I don't go crazy to make absolutely everything possible and have every advantageous tax scheme or method. I have more than enough, life it too short.

There are ways to step out of the PAYE system and still be able to say "I pay all my taxes" when really, whilst it's true nothing illegal or tax avoidance related is going on, those with connections and the money to do it find ways to "optimise" (i.e. reduce) their tax liability. I don't know for those I don't know personally of course, but I pay my taxes can mean very different things!

Hedge funds are not investment banks. I don't know what to say further on that. Other than I had and still get offers from both and I now which direction I ran in.

I think whether I had seven zeros knocked off my salary, or added on, the things that jump out at me are this.

Not giving to charity. That is sad and selfish. I've noticed that the people with the least often give the most. I also know what a joy, privilege and responsibility it is to share. I fully intend on dying penniless, having joyfully spent my life being blessed with the opportunity to share in the lives of others. I will go out in style:)

Not spoiling children but not showing them the example of generosity. I'm not sure I can reconcile the two.

Defining myself by my OH. Oh come on, do we really have to keep doing this?

Yeah, I go to the gym, I volunteer, I the care of kids, I do a million things at once and barely sleep, I am me, not my partner! He's not my other half quite frankly. We're equals. Also, I am a boss. I'm at no ones mercy for the way I live my life and I want my daughters and all the young girls in my life to see that.

I could have married a banker or a painter or a cleaner. I respect his values. That's it. His bank balance and salary are his business and don't define me.

For getting into the industry, firstly it's massively changing from old boys club, but not quickly enough. For me, masters, PhD, international experience, financial interest and flair (working class background, a lot of university), plus the confidence to be trusted by my bosses, colleagues and clients.

Sadly I have also come across people who are there with very blah level of skill, if it can even be called that, but they are part of the old boys club with old family connections. In the end though, they aren't so good. They make a crazy amount of money, but haven't had to work so I don't think feel the same reward or appreciation.

I don't want to retire early personally, but I am working, not waiting on my spouse to stop working. He can stop whenever he wants. Stay at home Dad it up later if he wants, it's his career. He isn't defined by me, am not defined by me.

And my kids know that charity and kindness is both an obligation and pleasure.

Got to run but can we please quite the I'm the wife of an x AMA

How about, I am... AMA.

Not helping the cause here ladies, not helping. If you are a SAHM, wonderful. Define yourself as that, not your husbands partner, because honestly, those kind of suggestions are everywhere in big careers and it takes a lot to be seen as otherwise. Every female colleague I have is unbelievably excellent at her job, top of the field, remarkable mind and skill set. That's what we have to be to get there. Every man, nope, not at all.

Enjoy your day everyone, be kind to someone with something less than you materially, you'll be amazed at the priceless gifts they'll give you in return!

headinhands · 17/07/2018 11:07

Do you home much a pint of milk is?

Aus84 · 17/07/2018 11:08

That was awesome! @RealMaryMagdalene

JuneMyNameIsJune · 17/07/2018 11:08

'JuneMyNameIsJune I’m not sure you can comment on this if you don’t know the details of his work...'

Yes I can because that is exactly how hedge funds work. OP has already stated what her DH does. My example is a recent one where hedge funds short sold stock and destroyed a company. That is the reality of hedge funds and how money is made by them.

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:15

@JuneMyNameIsJune

Ahem, hi June.

Now I didn't want to say it and I ran in the opposite direction towards a trading floor rather than that type of outfit... but as a professional I can say, you do know how hedge funds work! I'm not a fan of the way money is made... within the big banks, whilst yes as I said I think the pay discrepancies are unfair and stupid, we're part of the markets, which are part of economies, politics, world events and so on.

I feel like I ride the wave. Of course it is my job to do this in a successful way, but my success doesn't destroy another by causing loss.

Hedge funds, there's a bit more of a try to create a wave machine for personal/firm above all.

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 11:17

marymagdalene that was an amazing post. Huge thanks to you. And kudos for what you have achieved and for your perspective.

I'm the poster who mentioned sponsoring the two kids in Kenya and your words mean such a lot. It feels right to give those kids what we can, when ours have so much , comparatively. It's only £16 per child per month and from that they get an education and they get fed. I appreciate not everyone can spare 30-40 pounds a month but we can

Pause3FuhFuh · 17/07/2018 11:18

@realmarymagdeline well said, our husbands should not define us!

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:19

Litre of milk is about $1.30 (overseas running crazy as you can tell), pound is at 1.40 at moment.

I'm metric all the way, but there's my comparison, I know.

I have coconut milk, it's about an extra 60 cents. I figure as it's for health reasons and tastes yummy, it's justifiable.

JelliedFeels · 17/07/2018 11:19

Yeah, I must say I’d be far more interested in reading RealMaryMagdalene’s AMA and reading about how the industry works, how she got there, etc.

There are only so many questions to ask about the life of a ‘partner of a millionaire’, and they’ve pretty much been covered in the WAG AMA.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 17/07/2018 11:20

I honestly didn't realise that about hedge funds and I would consider myself a reasonably aware person. I thought they were just some kind of investment firm. Wasn't Carrillion really badly run? Isn't that why it failed?

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:23

@GorgonLondon

Oh, I love you for the kids in Africa. I must write and tell you seriously what a freaking difference you are making. Literally, you are changing the world. I've seen it, I've held it my arms, you are changing the world.

(My fancy holidays are even more fancy that typical posh rich, I use the time to volunteer in a few places overseas, it's awesome!)

Seriously, you are changing the world with what you do for those children. Every second of the day you are easing a child's pain and quite possibly saving their lives. Please don't ever forget that. Any moment of doubt in your life about you and your choices, just remember, the choice to be generous and thoughtful in that way is enough to define an entire lifetime and you can know that yours is well used.

When I'm not running crazy on no sleep, I'll find you and tell you more.

Seriously, you have no idea. You are changing the world!

NataliaOsipova · 17/07/2018 11:25

My example is a recent one where hedge funds short sold stock and destroyed a company

In fairness, if we are talking about Carillion, the hedge funds decided that something was seriously awry with the company and that's why they sold short. If they'd sold short and the company had proven to be a raging success? They'd have been bust many times over. Markets react to information.

KokoandAllBall · 17/07/2018 11:26

Do you worry that you could be a target for thieves?

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:29

Oh @JelliedFeels

My AMA would be way more crazy that you can imagine! The investment banking exotic part is the most mundane part of my life... and woo hoo it's a freaking thrill.

I could do a good AMA:) Shock the lives out of you all and probably make everyone cry, in a good emotional moving way, but there is craziness aplenty in my world.

One constistent thing however. Kindness.

Kindness gives me life and saves my life.

The rest is just an interesting story.

My life is crazy AMA :)
You will never believe this AMA :)
You have no idea how important and incredible you are AMA :)
You can and do change the world AMA :)
Why don't I take valium AMA ?!!

Tankerdale · 17/07/2018 11:30

I’m a trustee for a small charity that works with children & families at risk in Colombia. Small regular amounts of money make a massive difference to us and the work we support out there. Can give charity reg number etc if you pm me. Can you spare something per month?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 17/07/2018 11:32

RealMaryMagdalene’s AMA is the one I’d like to read as well. Can’t see the point of threads announcing ‘I’m rich’ and then no interesting info about how that actually happened. DH is wealthy but I don’t understand enough about what he actually does, he’d have to start his own AMA thread to tell you (sadly he doesn’t even know MN exists!)

TinklyLittleLaugh · 17/07/2018 11:33

LuMarie Hmm That's lovely dear. Keep away from that white powder now eh?

RealMaryMagdalene · 17/07/2018 11:38

@TinklyLittleLaugh

What are you suggesting?

I suggest you come find me and say it to my face, dear.

JuneMyNameIsJune · 17/07/2018 11:42

'My example is a recent one where hedge funds short sold stock and destroyed a company

In fairness, if we are talking about Carillion, the hedge funds decided that something was seriously awry with the company and that's why they sold short. If they'd sold short and the company had proven to be a raging success? They'd have been bust many times over. Markets react to information.'

Yes, that's true in part but I view hedge funds in this situation like sharks circling.

Yes, there was a hole in the balance sheet but the company was working towards sorting that out. In this situation this was a viable (in the medium to long term with a full order book) company whose share price was driven to zero by greed.

It had a huge impact on real people and their lives. Let's not pretend the 7 million mooted by the OP is earned in the sense of adding value to this world. As for earning 7 million in one year and not paying it forward in any way? I have no words.

@realmarymagdeline - thanks for your interesting inside track as a woman in the world of finance. So true that we, as women, are not defined by what our husbands do. It's important to understand where the money comes from though.

beanaseireann · 17/07/2018 11:48

I can't believe you don't give to charity OP.
Actually I can, because I have seen the lack of generosity by the super rich in my country first hand.
I also can't believe that you are not generous to your wider family.
How sad.Sad

JelliedFeels · 17/07/2018 11:49

LuMarie is you have the time to do an AMA I’m sure you’d receive plenty of questions Smile

JelliedFeels · 17/07/2018 11:50

Is = if

TinklyLittleLaugh · 17/07/2018 11:51

Sorry Lu that was slightly uncalled for. You sound a little manic. Are you sure you're okay?

Tinkobell · 17/07/2018 11:51

Meh. The OP's busy, gone out shopping & probably getting her bored teens to post responses.
Re: Carillion, wasn't it the board who over reported earnings on contracts in the pipeline (not actually takings / invoices paid) and historically approved non payment of pension contributions; thus presenting a rosier picture to the auditor who rubber stamped each annual report? Didn't the govt know all about this shit and toss sticky-plaster contracts to Carillion? That was my taking. I'm not sure where Hedge Funders really came into it.
Many jobs tbh don't have a great moral basis to them once you dissect them, but hey. I'm sure the OP's OH puts a lot into HMRC's pot each year which helps pay for health service etc.

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