Labour has voted down the Tories' amendment to allow parents to see sex ed resources in schools.

If I have a flat tyre on my car, I don’t put it in a crusher. Elon Musk wants to ensure social media can do what it wants and is doing all he can to bring down Labour because he thinks they are more likely to put safeguards in.

No, she’s saying that a lot of autistic kids identify as trans because of sloppy LGBT lessons. I went in one for school staff once where the trainer said one way you could tell you might be trans is because “you’ve always felt a bit different”.

It’s alluded to in the Cass review, that after intense social rejection, an autistic kid might confuse the acceptance offered by schools for them being quirky because trans for them actually being trans. My kid is autistic too BTW.

There are most certainly many schools who actively push trans ideology, or who certainly scaffold and enable it. Teachers teaching contested theory as fact. Using teaching materials from outside bodies.

I used to be a teacher, and my daughter currently is a teacher.....when I was teachingg ( I left in 2010) 'Trans' was not a thing.....it didn't exist. But now it is in most schools, and there are many activist teachers -even at primary level.

Use of pronouns by teachers leads to reinforcement of the ideology; and many schools run LGBTQ+ lunchtime clubs - in which vulnerable and/or questioning young people have gender identity theory pressed upon them.

In addition to SSA's excellent work, Transgender Trend have been highlighting the problems with some of the materials for schools from activist groups for many years:

www.transgendertrend.com/rshe-draft-guidance-problem-schools/

You're quite right to raise the issue of ideological groups of parents (and sometimes non parents) trying to influence the SRE curriculum. As an SRE lead in a number of schools I've sat through some very challenging meetings with parents. It's difficult for schools to navigate all this individually - which is why this and the previous government avoiding doing the work of suggesting a core age appropriate curriculum leaves individual schools to face the pressure.

This is how too many the queer theory / porn promoting groups have been able to step in with unwary schools unintentionally buying into some very grim materials. Safe Schools Alliance really do have an overview of the issues and it's so disappointing that the government have (yet again) failed to listen to those raising these issues involving safeguarding children .

Ok might not be a popular action but can you tag Elon Musk. He’ll certainly shine a light on things…

As an example of how it should be done but won’t be any longer because zealot parents ruined it: at my son’s primary school when he was, I believe in year four we were invited it for a talk to explain the PHSE/RSE curriculum for each year. We were shown slides, example lessons and given access to the materials which all looked perfectly age appropriate and very good actually. We then had v religious mum bursting in the room absolutely screaming at the teachers about how she did not want her son being taught about sex and de-railing it for everyone. A dad sat next to me then joined in about how everyone was actually here because they didn’t want any their kids taught to be gay. I had to point out that most of us were not here for that purpose because we were normal and didn’t think overworked primary school teachers wanted to teach kids to be gay and he went mental at me and the school has, understandably, never repeated the event.

So although I share concerns about ideologies being taught where they should not be I should also point out that for some schools I can understand why they would want to do the bare minimum of sharing when the above sort of thing happens.

Thanks, I will try that.

Yup. The amendment wasn’t taken up as there’s no need. There are things in place already

My point is that there are already statutory requirements on this. I also said that all schools should be doing this properly because there is very clear information on what should happen and there is recourse for schools- and indeed, steps for parents to take with regards to Ofsted also. I did say there are incidents of bad practice I'm sure- but is it isn't the norm. That's what I object to- that this is somehow widespread practice in England- because it isn't. I would also like to make a point that just because a certain organisation is (in my opinion unwisely) used doesn't mean a school then promotes that agenda.

They don’t force you to send your children to school though. Home schooling is allowed.

Unfortunately there are some schools who don't prioritise child safeguarding and do promote trans ideology - to the extent they've transitioned children in secret from their parents and even referred parents to SS as a safeguarding concern if they fail to affirm their child's belief they've been "born in the wrong body"

The problems with lack of access to SRE resources for parents is that schools are desperate for guidance for complex issues like SRE and some turned to self identified "experts" who produced endless streams of porn soaked materials, gender identity propaganda and queer theory nonsense under the label of "inclusive" SRE. A couple of examples of what we've looked at on this board for many years :

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4526569-This-charity-is-delivering-sex-education-in-schools

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4584553-the-proud-trust

There have been a really significant number of schools where external providers have come in to cover these areas of the curriculum and refused to share materials because it might ‘infringe their copyright’. This happened at my child’s school. We kicked up as much fuss as we could because the provider (the School of Sexuality Education) has been involved in some unsavoury episodes, but though we got an online meeting with the tutor, the materials were never made available to parents. As it turned out , in the meeting all that was discussed seemed perfectly innocuous- online safety etc. but talking to the kids afterwards we discovered that classes covered very different material, especially a framing of gender issues that I would certainly have wished to address in the meeting and potentially object to or withdraw my child from the sessions. This really does happen, and I think we need far more information about how embedded it is in different areas and institutions.

I think you are very naive. ‘Educate and celebrate’ took a drag queen called ‘flo job’ into a primary school to celebrate pride for example and there was definitely material encouraging girls to welcome men who identify as women into their toilets and suggesting any girl who was uncomfortable was a bigot.

I would write a firmly worded email and quote the document I posted earlier regarding the role of parents.
I would also ask them to confirm when the consultation process for their chosen materials took place. I would also insist that the materials were available at a more convenient time for you to peruse.

Things like this are why my DC are in a massively-strict independent catholic school (we are not catholic). We are given the PHSE curriculum and there’s nothing contentious in it.

It’s horrendous they would roll this back, if there was no problems as she says, why would they need to hide?

In my child's school the RSE sessions were announced with in the middle of a lengthy bulletin including term dates, exam info etc etc.
I asked for more information and got very little - only session titles. The policy is on the school website but school did not signpost that to me, and I was concerned by the limited info in the policy, which goes beyond the statutory RSE curriculum. Then DC told me about some of the content.

I was not happy and asked to see the materials. I was told it was confidential so they couldn't send me anything. They arranged for me to view the materials in a meeting at school during work hours. Another parent will be there.

I am unlikely to get time off work, so in effect, I can't see the materials. Are you saying I should report to Ofsted?

I have never been consulted on the content, btw.

She's unfortunately my MP and I can confidently say she's useless. Just likes photo opportunities in between travelling to her holiday home in Northumberland.

"of course not, she’s suggesting that those groups of people are particularly vulnerable to People pushing trans ideology"

Yes I didn't read the post properly - apologies. But who is pushing trans ideology? You aren't allowed to in schools here. That's very clear. The biggest pressure on young people comes from their peers and social media. The idea that teachers are turning kids trans or encouraging it is utterly ludicrous and it just isn't happening. Kids are utterly obsessed with whatever is on TikTok and treat it like a totally reliable source of information.

"I know, it’s frightening that it’s got to this point. I remember when schools were good and worked alongside parents not against them. It’s strange how easily schools have become Big Brother with zero pushback"

Schools have no autonomy anymore. They have to do whatever the government and the DFE dictate with the shadow of a punitive Ofsted regime constantly looming. It's a massive driver of the teacher recruitment and retention crisis. Schools just do what they are told and the anger should not be directed at them. Parents often blame schools for policies they don't like eg attendance- but the schools don't make those rules yet they get all the abuse over it.

This is why it's important that the state doesn't have a monopoly on education.