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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This ‘charity’ is delivering sex education in schools…

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Organictangerine · 10/04/2022 17:17

schoolofsexed.org/blog-articles/2021/3/23/m1j83axky336c2pwq0huees8aq0kkm-62fbn

It describes itself as ‘rights-based, sex-positive, non-binary and trauma-informed.’

Among the (highly ideological) information on its website is this diamond:

Myth #2: All women have vaginas.

‘It’s a girl!’ the midwife exclaimed after looking at the baby’s genitals and deciding they fit the textbook description of female genitalia. Due to misconceptions surrounding sex and gender we often automatically assume that if you’re a woman you must have a vagina. However, genitalia is not an indicator of gender and assuming so erases the existence of intersex people, trans and non-binary people.

It provides a full list of schools and organisations it is involved with. Thought it may be one to watch?

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FromOurHatsToOurFeet · 10/04/2022 17:18

They are involved with that Family Sex show on Bristol, aren't they.

Organictangerine · 10/04/2022 17:21

That’s how I found them - the only charity consulted with about the show apparently. Not at all surprising given the content.

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tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 17:24

This sort of thing is gross, IMO.

‘Myth #4: Penetrative sex will cause your vagina to become ‘loose.’

The myth that the more sex you have the looser your vagina will become has been used to shame people for having multiple sexual partners for years. The vagina is very elastic so having something temporarily penetrate it will generally not cause permanent changes in the size of the vaginal opening. Vaginas can lose elasticity as people age and that’s completely normal! They may also change shape after childbirth which is why menstrual cups often come in different sizes for people who have and haven’t had a vaginal birth. However, the vaginal opening can also tighten after menopause due to a decrease in oestrogen levels. So, really, the shape and elasticity of your vaginal opening will change over your lifetime regardless of how much or little penetrative sex you have! Ultimately, it’s important to remember that all bodies are different and that they will change differently too!’

Kids at school don’t need to be taught about how awful it is when people are ‘shamed’ for having multiple sexual partners or ‘things’ inside their vaginas. They need to be taught about ordinary healthy relationships. It’s not ‘ordinary’ for teenagers to have so many sex partners that anyone needs to worry about a loose vagina. A teen having their first sexual experiences with multiple partners would (in my opinion) be a sign that something might be wrong in that teenager’s life.

These charities got so open-minded their brains fell out.

DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 17:30

That essay was written by a 17 year old girl; I'm not quite sure why they're showcasing it.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/04/2022 17:37

This is why the lack of due diligence by schools is such an issue. Every half baked activist (and worse) with an interest in sex can get on the school's gravy train. As the government have refused since first elected to issue guidance on this, busy teachers are at the mercy of whoever catches the attention of a member of staff.
I'm not one for over management but when you look at the backgrounds of some involved, the need for regulation becomes apparent.

Plasmodesmata · 10/04/2022 17:52

From that blog:

"Neither gender nor sex are binary and women can have many different types of genitalia (vulvas, penises or other variants in sex characteristics). We must move on from this myth in order to create a safer and more inclusive environment for everyone. I’d recommend checking out School of Sexuality Education’s blog post ‘Why is everyone being mean to JK Rowling?’ for more information on this topic."

I thought I'd go and check out "why is everyone being mean to JK Rowling" but the link takes me back to the home page. Maybe they deleted that one?

SeanChailleach · 10/04/2022 17:54

This charity - using the name "School of Sexuality" - is providing a workshop on relationships, pornography, and consent, at my child's secondary school.

Cheekymaw · 10/04/2022 17:54

Grim as . Do they have much stuff about consent and respect ?

Believerinbiology · 10/04/2022 18:09

@SeanChailleach please tell me they're not in Ireland too

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 10/04/2022 18:09

It’s pronoun central

schoolofsexed.org/team

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 10/04/2022 18:13

And Girl Guiding is a partner/supporter organisation.

SeanChailleach · 10/04/2022 18:35

[quote Believerinbiology]@SeanChailleach please tell me they're not in Ireland too[/quote]
Not as far as I know - I live in England.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/04/2022 18:36

@SeanChailleach

This charity - using the name "School of Sexuality" - is providing a workshop on relationships, pornography, and consent, at my child's secondary school.
I'd be asking the school what due diligence they've done about the nature of the organisation? I'd suggest that an organisation involved with a performance for 5 year olds in which adults remove their clothes has a dodgy understanding of safeguarding. As they want to talk about porn to children I'd remind the school of the DfE statutory SRE guidance on using organisations in schools and ask for written confirmation that it meets the following requirements: (sorry for the lengthy quote):

As with any visitor, schools are responsible for ensuring that they check the visitor or visiting organisation’s credentials. Schools should also ensure that the teaching delivered by the visitor fits with their planned programme and their published policy
It is important that schools discuss the detail of how the visitor will deliver their sessions and ensure that the content is age-appropriate and accessible for the pupils
Schools should ask to see the materials visitors will use as well as a lesson plan in advance, so that they can ensure it meets the full range of pupils’ needs (e.g. special educational needs)
It is important to agree how confidentiality will work in any lesson and that the visitor understands how safeguarding reports should be dealt with in line with school policy.
....
Use of visitors should be to enhance teaching by an appropriate member of the teaching staff, rather than as a replacement for teaching by those staff.

The DfE guidance can be found here:

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019542/Relationships_Education__Relationships_and_Sex_Education__RSE__and_Health_Education.pdf

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/04/2022 18:43

Parents are so important in ensuring that SRE is delivered in an age appropriate way and takes account of diverse pupil intakes. Strangers with an enthusiasm for talking to children about porn are often not delivering the sensitive, age appropriate, consent based education that children need.
Schools are outsourcing this because it's difficult but as we've seen, this is a gravy train rather than using people with qualifications in child development, psychology and education along with how to deliver an appropriately differentiated curriculum.

SeanChailleach · 10/04/2022 18:45

My initial look over their website led me to think:
They have been around a while
A lot if their work is vital information
The gender theory aspects of their work is merely of the times we are in, rather than seeming like their raison d'etre.

I will be asking more questions, but I am not more worried about this organisation than I am about the climate of opinion among the teenagers that I know.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 10/04/2022 18:46

It’s difficult to know - they only registered as a charity in 2020 & they only have 3 trustees which given the size they seem to be is a bit odd

Organictangerine · 10/04/2022 19:14

@SeanChailleach

My initial look over their website led me to think: They have been around a while A lot if their work is vital information The gender theory aspects of their work is merely of the times we are in, rather than seeming like their raison d'etre.

I will be asking more questions, but I am not more worried about this organisation than I am about the climate of opinion among the teenagers that I know.

I’m not certain of that given the demographic of the team.
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MsGoodenough · 10/04/2022 19:34

I would certainly challenge this group coming in to my school.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/04/2022 19:35

If they're child centred, understand about age appropriateness (especially in relation to porn), the rights of children from all protected groups, have rigorous safeguarding policies and have shared all their materials in advance with the school as well as complying with everything in the DfE guidance, there'll be no problems.
Their association with the safeguarding breaching performance for 5 years old plus children, where performers discuss sex and undress in front of unknown children raises concerns about their safeguarding knowledge and judgement. However, asking the school to confirm that they've checked their credibility and followed the DfE guidelines as detailed above should hopefully reassure.

Mysterioso · 10/04/2022 19:39

Sounds like there needs to be a reminder that sex Ed is not mainly about teaching children about the act itself but everything around it: consent, pleasure, pain, pregnancy and disease.
The act itself is easy enough to get your head around (eventually - no idea how the human race has survived to date) but the rest of it does need to be learned.

It shouldn't become soft porn or a kink class! Or indulge teenage exploration to the extent it forgets to prepare them for the real consequences.

Rights · 10/04/2022 19:49

I’m not certain of that given the demographic of the team.

Exactly - it’s one big pot of pronoun soup. I’m not having these fantasists teach my kids that biological sex is a “myth”. It’s perfectly possible to teach sex ed, consent, etc without all this bollocks.

Also, how can they claim to be “trauma-informed” if they’re complicit in the erasure of single-sex safe spaces FFS? I honestly despair.

Dinosauria · 10/04/2022 19:50

I find a good yard stick is the volume of exclamation marks.

SeanChailleach · 10/04/2022 20:05

Is there another organisation providing sex ed that doesn't do pronouns and comply with Stonewall's rules?
For anyone working in sex ed, speaking out would require a lot of courage. And possibly a legal team.

Organictangerine · 10/04/2022 20:19

it’s one big pot of pronoun soup

I feel like even the ones who are begrudgingly ‘cis’ put a toe in with the she/they…

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FOJN · 10/04/2022 22:13

It’s difficult to know - they only registered as a charity in 2020 & they only have 3 trustees which given the size they seem to be is a bit odd

I think they had a previous incarnation as Sexplain.nI was doing a bit of digging around to get more info on The Family Sex Show