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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2023 21:19

Now I'm not saying I'm addicted or anything but...

T TUNNOCK LTD

This is a tale of Tunnock’s treats

The ones that we eat at all of our meets
Usually, there’s a selection from which to pick
No one has difficulty wolfing them quick
No, it’s so hard to stop as they are so nice
Oh yes to another, no need to ask twice
Chocolate and mallow, caramel and wafer
Knowing there’s snowballs to finish off later

Logs that are large and come in bite size
Tunnocks will be in my hand when I dies
Dark ones as well? Well, there’s a surprise!

TUNNOCKS

There is a group of women, scattered wide and far
United in our love for a brand of chocolate bar
No imitations will be accepted by this witchy group
No, its only the real ones that make us jump and whoop
Oh, glorious Tunnocks are our sugary saviour
Chocolate and mallow, caramel and wafer
Knowing that aged five or even aged fifty
Snowballs still remain wonderfully sticky

Whilst the teacake is not my favourite personally (I mean I love them but I love other Tunnock's products more!) I have been thinking on the matter of a Tunnock's TEACAKE

The teacake is
Eminently the crown
Atop the rest of the
Chocolatey empire
At Uddingston
Kept there by people
Everywhere loving them.

Moving onto the SNOWBALL I find they are

Slightly different from a teacake
No biscuit base though
Otherwise the same except for
Wispy bits of coconut
Beautifully attached, in the main,
All over the outside
Lots fall off during eating, but are
Licked off the wrapper at the end.

Heading towards my favourite in second place for me is the CARAMEL LOG.

Can eat these for ever
And a day.
Reminiscent of the wafer
A different coating
Makes this delicious.
Enveloped in a
Liberal sprinkling of

Lovely roasted coconut
Oh boy do they make a mess
Gorgeous though!

For me though the most wonderful of Tunnock's products is the CARAMEL WAFER

Can’t get enough of these
A whole pack of 4
Remain uneaten for
About five minutes
Mouthful after mouthful
Eventually all eaten and I’m
Left with a multitude of

Wrappers that I hoard
Aware that I’ll never actually
Fathom what to do with them
Even so in the drawer they go as a
Reminder of my love.

(Caramel log missing from image as Sainsbury were out of stock! How very dare they!!)

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Boiledbeetle · 17/07/2023 23:51

And the rest.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 17/07/2023 23:49

Thought I'd put the reviews on here, good and bad

Let's see if these are actually readable

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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SinnerBoy · 16/07/2023 14:57

Oh, top subversive idea for an actual garden!

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Boiledbeetle · 16/07/2023 14:27

I have been asked to post the following, however the poster wishes to remain anonymous.

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The Garden

The clouds sat overhead for a long time
Heavy squalls obliterating all they touched
The fresh buds trying and failing to open
Strangled by the weeds stunting their growth

But finally, the sun broke through the clouds
First only glimpses in amongst the storms
But through it all the women weeded and planted
And slowly the blossoms grew and bloomed

The sunshine now is here more than the clouds
The flowers and plants outnumber the weeds
The women have toiled for many an hour
Their efforts rewarded with a beautiful garden

With grass so green and flowers of white and purple.

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Boiledbeetle · 16/07/2023 14:04

so, it seems SJB is currently locked up. whether this is true has not been verified though.

In the hope that it is true that SJ B is currently incarcerated:

UPDATE

In a startling turn of fortune
The police finally locked up the loon
The TRAs are throwing a strop
Because SJB was arrested by cop
He got sent back to jail for breaking his licence
It's about bloody time, he was ramping up to violence

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Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2023 10:27

Considering the way things are going at the moment you'd think organisations would pause and reassess. But as it's a bloke he probably has looked at the issue and doesn't see what the problem is. all he needs to do is get the women to capitulate and all will be well for the men who want access to things they are not entitled to!

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/07/2023 08:23

RCOT a predominantly female organisation have have a new male CEO and are now fully engaged in the process of reeducation of it’s members, mainly women, stonewall style.

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Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2023 01:37

@Ritasueandbobtoo9 Ooh what have I missed?

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Boiledbeetle · 14/07/2023 22:29

Currently running at an even split of paperbacks and e-books this month.

7 of each

And there are other people's poems all over other threads and I really should actually spends some time rounding them up. But that means asking people. Ugh... Maybe I'll just start with the ones who've already said yes!

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TheBiologyStupid · 14/07/2023 19:45

Absolutely that, Boiled.

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Boiledbeetle · 14/07/2023 17:27

Let's hope she either gets the job or the boss sees what the hell he is doing to the rest of his staff.

It's really not the fact that this new staff member is transgender, It's that the rest of the staff are now being treated badly to accommodate one person who seems to have an unusual hold over the boss. I've seen women behave like this as well as men, so it's the person not the trans status.

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TheBiologyStupid · 14/07/2023 17:13

I think "better dough" in the last line as the OP's new job (fingers crossed!) is a step up?

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Boiledbeetle · 14/07/2023 16:09

Forget to stick this here earlier.

It's from the Ginny thread

Boiledbeetle · Today 14:45
(I still need to tidy it up a bit to get it to scan better)

DECISION TIME

Work was great, a happy horde
The other staff thought so too
But then a new face came aboard
And followed me into the loo

She overstepped that invisible line
The one that makes life good
She acted as though she was so benign
Yet talked of sex whilst showing wood

She treated us poorly in her fantasy
Ignored the uneasy interaction
Whilst she overstepped so absently
(Only Mumsnet brought distraction)

Then she threw an epic strop
Screwed the mainframe at the office
So we all sloped off to the shop
As all locked out by the Apophis

The woman seems to be Teflon coated
The boss oblivious to the unrest
The woman’s self-image so overly bloated
The rest of us so bloody stressed

We have to put up with all this shit
We dare not voice our growing dissent
And so, our teeth we’re forced to grit
Our freedoms lost without consent

Our boundaries have been obliterated
Our feelings given not a thought
Our toilets trips are now dictated
By an edict the boss has brought

We have been admonished in front of all
For our bad behaviour in these matters
Because the boss is so in thrall
Whilst our mental health lies in tatters

All of us are being bullied
By this woman and our boss
If we speak out, we will be sullied
Not that the woman gives a toss

We have been forced into silence
So as not to be labelled a transphobe
Scared of if this ramps up to violence
We’ve had to have the patience of Job

It’s not the fact this woman’s a man
That has us all in pieces
It’s the fact that since she began
We’ve been treated worse than faeces

So now I have a choice
Do I stay or do I go?
Do I speak out and be the voice
Or jump ship for lesser dough?

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Boiledbeetle · 13/07/2023 10:18

It's gambling across fields with the summer breeze ruffling it's pages as we type! (Unlike a certain TRA who is hopefully still in a police cell somewhere wishing he hadn't incited people to punch Terfs)

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SinnerBoy · 13/07/2023 09:02

It's definitely out there in the wild, isn't it?

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Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 21:04

Current totals

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Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 22:24

Quick numbers update

10 so far this month. 6 paperbacks 4 e-book

So there's 90p to add onto the £30.74 = £31.64

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UrinaryLeash · 10/07/2023 15:44

Posted this on the SJB thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4844898-if-you-see-a-terf-punch-them-in-the-fucking-face-speech-at-trans-pride-london-8-july-2023?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Sarah Jane Baker at Trans Pride got up on stage and proclaimed “I was gonna come here and be really fluffy and really nice and say yeah be really lovely and queer and gay. Nah… if you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!”

Best Laid Plans

As I was on my way today,
I’d decided to be nice,
And really rather fluffy.
Should have took my own advice!

Because instead of being lovely,
And yay for queer and gay,
I decided to big up myself
And have my vicious say.

So when I arrived and got on stage
I couldn’t show much grace.
Instead of joy and pleasantries…
“If you see a TERF, punch ‘em in the fucking face!””

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Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 11:47

Correction to last line (have a new laptop it obviously doesn't like me swearing...)

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face”

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Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 11:38

Trans Pride London 8th July 2023

NOT ALL WOMEN ARE EQUAL

As a transwoman I have the right to do just as I please
I can say disgusting things and bring you to your knees.

I can call you every sort of name and you can’t say a word
Because I’m Teflon coated and can say things most absurd.

I can make threats a plenty to any women I dislike
I can even assert you’re aligned with the third Reich.

You silly little women you just keep stickering and boast
Of your shiny little stickers that you stick upon a post.

But I can guarantee there’ll be a policeman at your door
Before you’ve even managed to stick up but a score.

Don’t even think of tying ribbons on a metal fence
As it will cost a pretty penny for your legal defence.

If you dare to say a man can never be female
First you’ll be arrested, then released on bail.

Don’t think of misgendering me for that is just pure hate
Before you even know it, you’ll be given your court date.

Yet as a special sort of woman I can say what I desire
And when I get pulled up on it I’ll say you are a liar.

I won’t even lose my job or get arrested by the cops
For saying hateful things whilst using women as my props.

So I’ll say the quiet bit out loud whilst in a public place:
“If you see a TERF, punch them in the face”

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Boiledbeetle · 08/07/2023 18:12

It may well make an appearance! And you're right she is! Luckily some still existed when she arrived! We've eaten it now though!

Ooh cheesecake!

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Boiledbeetle · 08/07/2023 10:32

Something for the weekend...

TRA HERE

You bloody GC women, you are so bloody rude!
When I try to berate you, you just start to talk of food.

When I throw a strop because you say lesbians don’t do dick
You start to talk of Tunnocks and which product you would pick.

When I try repeatedly to tell you that those men are actually shes
You just start to witter on about different types of cheese.

When I try to explain that women’s stuff is ours to take
You begin to debate the merits of different types of cake.

I just don’t understand why you start to talk of food
Every time I try to tell you that woman’s not a dude.

Right best go eat the last of the rather nice cake I have in the fridge before my sister arrives for the weekend! then I can pretend I never bought a cake!

Oh I love this, will it be in vol2?

Just a thought, isn't your sister on here too, wont she know about the cake?

Might be a completely different poster and I will look foolish, again.

Unrelated and I'm not sharing but I got a mighty fine fancy cheesecake on offer today. 2.80 instead of five quid. Much looking forward to that tomorrow.

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Boiledbeetle · 08/07/2023 10:32

Something for the weekend...

TRA HERE

You bloody GC women, you are so bloody rude!
When I try to berate you, you just start to talk of food.

When I throw a strop because you say lesbians don’t do dick
You start to talk of Tunnocks and which product you would pick.

When I try repeatedly to tell you that those men are actually shes
You just start to witter on about different types of cheese.

When I try to explain that women’s stuff is ours to take
You begin to debate the merits of different types of cake.

I just don’t understand why you start to talk of food
Every time I try to tell you that woman’s not a dude.

Right best go eat the last of the rather nice cake I have in the fridge before my sister arrives for the weekend! then I can pretend I never bought a cake!

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