Official Complaint to Mumsnet

Surely there are ways to be inclusive other than reduce all adult human females into body parts? It is icky as hell.

@discobrain yeah generally I'd be a bit more robust about that, but sex was added to active yesterday without any announcement, whereas it's been hidden by default for a very long time because people who have been sexually assaulted or have anxiety around sex have been considered alongside those who might want to access those boards. Even people who use them are complaining on site stuff because they don't want it appearing in their active topics.

Right up until the day before the Shrek ear launch on...the sex boards. So it just smacks of "fuck you people we were protective of for years, you can be suddenly exposed to this with no warning because we've got a plastic willy to flog". But sod all those people eh? It's funny!

www.mumsnet.com/articles/the-whisperer

I'm not seeing "people with wombs" or "vulva owners" on this, did they change it?

It's funny as fuck.

Notice on their condom page whenever they refer to woman alone we are 'people with vaginas' but any mention of men are 'men'.

dsgcp.com/brands/smilemakers/

They have a bit of an obsession with the word 'vulvas.' A bit like a three year old shouting 'poo!' and finding it funny; except these are grownups.

smilemakerscollection.com/

Course it is! Two blokes who think feathery strokes and gentle exploration is What Vulva Owners Want

only mum vulva owners. Because we’ve got kids yeah, so we’re all chaste now. Don’t shout about sex, whisper it

Peder Wikstrom and Mattias Hulting, business name Ramblin' Brands

Is anyone else finding active full of 'promoted by mumsnet' now with very little actual content? It's like they don't actually give a shit about women's voices anymore.

@SausageInCider thanks for digging that out. It makes me 😡😡😡- the 'and people with wombs' nonsense. What does it even mean?? Just - no. As many pps have pointed out, it excludes more people than it includes.

but to think the best way to remove an 'important' taboo (that barely exists AFAIK, but assuming it did..) is by selling people something. All the grrrs.

"....is leaving women and people with wombs"

That's the same as saying "Women and Women".

Did they forget to get an editor to look this one over? 😁

Female sexuality ohh, is that the edited version? 🤔

These vibrators have been around for some time, no? Boots sell them and Planet organic and Urban outfitters.

Does anyone have information about the business, where is it based, who are the owners and any other business data? Do we know why MN have a 3rd party deal with them?

I'd also love to know who you 500 MNers are who were desperately drying out for a product that already exists? You could have popped in to your local Ann Summers and there are hundreds of them.

So what they have done is..... made a bullet vibrator......which have existed for decades.....

Then slapped some misogynistic bullshit on it. Good Job MN.

They’ve deleted the people with wombs bit from that article. Directly quoted into another mn post yesterday the original wording was

"We knew from previous activations with our community that sex and motherhood is a deeply-rooted taboo. The lack of conversation and resources on the topic is leaving women and people with wombs feeling side-lined as sexual beings. At Smile Makers, we have been tackling taboos around female sexuality for over 10 years and that was obviously an important one to remove"

I feel sick. It was obvious it was all about the money now, what with the rip of premium. But it never occurred to me they’d sacrifice victims of sexual abuse to make another few pounds. Justine really has lost the plot. I repeat, I honestly feel sick.

Course it is! Two blokes who think feathery strokes and gentle exploration is What Vulva Owners Want [vomit]

screeches to a halt

where are MN saying “people with wombs”???

Fuck right off with that shite. Jesus wept.

This is grim. I remember the days when [sucks Werthers] —all this were fields— there was no advertising and you could click on a thread and it was a erm, thread not a big advertising campaign . You could read a thread without having to scroll past loads of shite.

Sold out massively MN. If I wanted to read about local mums in my area wanting to get rid of their wrinkles, I’d try and wade through my local “paper” online. Maybe if I looked at loads of porn sites and sex toy sites I’d also get vibrator ads.

FFS MN.

You have a womb and are therefore a woman (or possibly a girl)**

Oooh, cutting.