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Channel 4 undercover re Farage

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Ihateboris · 03/09/2026 20:11

Oh dear...how's he going to explain this?
Https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-nigel-farage-filmed-undercover-celebrating-secret-new-foreign-donations

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Clavinova · Yesterday 13:16

Daygloboo · 05/09/2026 16:55

When is an interview witg Nadine Dorries ever not a car crash.

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I caught some of her interview with Matt Frei on LBC yesterday morning. I thought she was great. We (Conservatives) missed a trick not putting her in the House of Lords.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:19

The filming also clearly shows Farage interacting with the father and son despite him claiming he wasn't listening.

The polling was “amazing” and provided “bang for buck,” adding: “It worked. Boom.”

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:21

By the way, for anyone a bit confused by the plurality of Jukeses on this thread, I should point out I don't know of any connection between Dan Jukes (Farage's recently booted aide) and Peter Jukes (journalist who co-founded Byline Times after live-tweeting Rebekah Brooks et al in the News International phone-hacking trial).

(Edited. What IS the plural of Jukes?Grin)

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:23

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:15

You're welcome to pick out the time-stamp in the C4 film for me, Clav.

I just remember the image of the text message to or from Jukes stating they were planning to helicopter Farage to the "donor" in London, or the "donor" to Farage in Clacton.

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It's the day of the Farage meeting. They're on the road to the constituency.

The helicopter was a previous suggestion - they obviously didn't run with it.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:27

It really doesn't matter what mode of transport they used or what they ate and drank.

The foreign donation is the issue here.

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:31

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:19

The filming also clearly shows Farage interacting with the father and son despite him claiming he wasn't listening.

The polling was “amazing” and provided “bang for buck,” adding: “It worked. Boom.”

The filming also tells us that Farage doesn't know the 'real' extent of the support;

Orr - 'He's aware of the support, but he, um, he does not know the real extent of it.'

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:32

Thanks for the time-stamp. That's fine if you think that in the end the whole journey was by road. <shrug>

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:36

Clavinova · 03/09/2026 21:19

He's been caught bang to rights

I wouldn't get too excited just yet;

In the film, Orr can be heard saying of the arrangement that Farage “doesn’t know, won’t know” and it was the kind of thing he would “rather not know”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/03/reform-officials-plotted-to-break-law-on-foreign-donations-in-undercover-film

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Ah, the Guardian have edited the quote - he also says;

"Nigel won't do it."

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:36

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:31

The filming also tells us that Farage doesn't know the 'real' extent of the support;

Orr - 'He's aware of the support, but he, um, he does not know the real extent of it.'

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So are you highlighting that Reform receives more dodgy funding than the "donation" Farage was shown thanking "the American" for in the meeting?

Again, if you can't be bothered to give either time-stamps or context I'm not going to thrash through the video again today.

But if that's the case, then Farage's categorical on-the-record denial to Laura Kuenssberg is toast.

BrandiedAromatics · Yesterday 13:37

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:31

The filming also tells us that Farage doesn't know the 'real' extent of the support;

Orr - 'He's aware of the support, but he, um, he does not know the real extent of it.'

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Or,
Orr, cynically: He doesn't want to know

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:38

I am surprised how much you as a Conservative are defending Farage,

The Conservative party has expressed concerns about the legalities of Reform's donations and already asked HMRC to look into his £5m donation.

This latest reveal is a gift to Conservatives.

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:41

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:32

Thanks for the time-stamp. That's fine if you think that in the end the whole journey was by road. <shrug>

In fact, if I was working as an undercover reporter, I would refuse a helicopter. Helicopters are noisy things - much easier to tape conversations in a car.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:43

The actual business was done in places other than cars or helicopters.

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:51

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 13:38

I am surprised how much you as a Conservative are defending Farage,

The Conservative party has expressed concerns about the legalities of Reform's donations and already asked HMRC to look into his £5m donation.

This latest reveal is a gift to Conservatives.

An electoral pact or coalition with Reform I would be fine with. The Lib Dems reported Keir Starmer on several occasions, but that doesn't mean they would have turned down a coalition government with Starmer.

Clavinova · Yesterday 14:00

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 13:36

So are you highlighting that Reform receives more dodgy funding than the "donation" Farage was shown thanking "the American" for in the meeting?

Again, if you can't be bothered to give either time-stamps or context I'm not going to thrash through the video again today.

But if that's the case, then Farage's categorical on-the-record denial to Laura Kuenssberg is toast.

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I'm suggesting that whatever went on, it's going to be extremely difficult to pin anything on Farage personally:

'Nigel won't do it', 'he doesn't know, won't know', 'he doesn't know the real extent' etc.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 14:03

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:51

An electoral pact or coalition with Reform I would be fine with. The Lib Dems reported Keir Starmer on several occasions, but that doesn't mean they would have turned down a coalition government with Starmer.

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Badenoch isn't interested in a pact or coalition.

Do you care about what appear to be illegal foreign donations?
Do you really believe Farage doesn't know what is happening?

PerkingFaintly · Yesterday 14:09

Clavinova · Yesterday 14:00

I'm suggesting that whatever went on, it's going to be extremely difficult to pin anything on Farage personally:

'Nigel won't do it', 'he doesn't know, won't know', 'he doesn't know the real extent' etc.

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Nice try. But Farage is on the hook for things that Farage has been shown doing and saying.

Clavinova · Yesterday 14:25

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 14:03

Badenoch isn't interested in a pact or coalition.

Do you care about what appear to be illegal foreign donations?
Do you really believe Farage doesn't know what is happening?

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Do you care about what appear to be illegal foreign donations?

If they turn out to be illegal, yes. To what extent, I don't know. It won't alter my vote in any case.

WatermelonSalad1 · Yesterday 14:26

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 14:03

Badenoch isn't interested in a pact or coalition.

Do you care about what appear to be illegal foreign donations?
Do you really believe Farage doesn't know what is happening?

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I think she’s just being polite about him. They would be many reasons to be polite, but fundamentally you should respect the process.

I don’t think she would dream of having a coalition with him. I think that would be awful. And lose them a lot of voters. But unlike other posters, I do think they’re falling apart. This is the second time I’ve seen Layla Cunningham feel like she can’t defend anything, although I can’t remember what the first time was. I reckon she will walk away. I reckon Matt Goodwin will walk away and I don’t know why Zia is still there tbh. Find it a bit strange.

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Ihateboris · Yesterday 14:39

Clavinova · Yesterday 14:25

Do you care about what appear to be illegal foreign donations?

If they turn out to be illegal, yes. To what extent, I don't know. It won't alter my vote in any case.

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What would Reform/Farage have to do to alter your vote?

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Auspiciousminds · Yesterday 14:51

Clavinova · Yesterday 13:16

I caught some of her interview with Matt Frei on LBC yesterday morning. I thought she was great. We (Conservatives) missed a trick not putting her in the House of Lords.

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Are you training to be a comedian and thought you'd try out some new jokes on MN?

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Ihateboris · Yesterday 15:00

Auspiciousminds · Yesterday 14:51

Are you training to be a comedian and thought you'd try out some new jokes on MN?

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I was thinking the same. I also heard the interview on LBC...and she definitely wasn't "great "

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Clavinova · Yesterday 15:11

Ihateboris · Yesterday 15:00

I was thinking the same. I also heard the interview on LBC...and she definitely wasn't "great "

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In the bit I heard she was running rings around Oxford graduate and seasoned editor Matt Frei.

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Ihateboris · Yesterday 15:13

Clavinova · Yesterday 15:11

In the bit I heard she was running rings around Oxford graduate and seasoned editor Matt Frei.

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Did you listen to it in it's entirety? If not, I suggest you do.

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Clavinova · Yesterday 15:15

Ihateboris · Yesterday 14:39

What would Reform/Farage have to do to alter your vote?

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I'm voting Conservative. Reform are unlikely to win in my constituency anyway - Conservative/Lib Dem area.

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