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Channel 4 undercover re Farage

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Ihateboris · 03/09/2026 20:11

Oh dear...how's he going to explain this?
Https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-nigel-farage-filmed-undercover-celebrating-secret-new-foreign-donations

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DuncinToffee · 07/10/2026 19:36

Reform's internal investigation clears the party of wrong-doing, using arguments that are entirely inconsistent with the documentary: that Reform chief of staff Jukes was not commissioning the poll for the party, but for himself!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckly020edl45o

In the undercover film however, the Reform contractor says it was for the party. The fundraiser tells the donor it was for the party. The pollster says on camera it was for the party - but he is concealing that from media. The leader is told it was done & thanks the donors for doing it for the party.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage and Dan Jukes pictured in the undercoverfilming by Verbatim Investigations and broadcast by Channel 4 News.

Reform internal inquiry says party did not break law over donations sting

Officials were recorded by undercover journalists discussing a potential way to secure foreign donations to the party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckly020edl45o

BrandiedAromatics · 05/10/2026 11:28

EEexpat · 05/10/2026 11:16

@DuncinToffee

I don’t like Jenrick. When speaking, he comes across as, arrogant, condescending, nasty and rude.

Yes, he would probably say: "Oh, boohoo" to your response.

EEexpat · 05/10/2026 11:16

@DuncinToffee

I don’t like Jenrick. When speaking, he comes across as, arrogant, condescending, nasty and rude.

DuncinToffee · 05/10/2026 08:57

Robert Jenrick’s handling of donations to his failed 2024 Tory leadership campaign has come under fresh scrutiny, after the UK donor at the centre of the row claimed that the politician and his senior campaign staff knew about the involvement of an overseas donor.

https://www.ft.com/content/38a54e10-d1ba-48c8-8b4c-e9775eedd957?syn-25a6b1a6=1

EEexpat · 05/10/2026 07:16

@DuncinToffee

What has QT so say about all these investigations?

It was mentioned on the first episode of this seasons QT. The Reform representative stated that Farage position was that the £5m was a gift, but ultimately the investigators will decide.

The Labour representative said that we don’t want foreign money coming into UK politics, but there should not be a cap on donations from unions I remember.

pointythings · 04/10/2026 20:20

SabrinaThwaite · 04/10/2026 19:53

Oh @pointythings don’t go bringing facts into the discussion.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA&ra=m

My bad...

SabrinaThwaite · 04/10/2026 19:53

pointythings · 04/10/2026 19:13

I trust you do know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU?

Oh @pointythings don’t go bringing facts into the discussion.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA&ra=m

pointythings · 04/10/2026 19:13

EEexpat · 04/10/2026 18:47

@DuncinToffee

As per pointy,

We left. End of story.

I would say that until UK leaves the ECHR, UK has not yet fully left.

As for “end of story”, I don’t think that’s correct as demonstrated by the number of threads on Brexit, Farage, Reform, etc,. That it appears in some form or another on almost every episode of BBC Question Time is further evidence I would say.

I trust you do know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU?

RedTagAlan · 04/10/2026 19:06

EEexpat · 04/10/2026 18:47

@DuncinToffee

As per pointy,

We left. End of story.

I would say that until UK leaves the ECHR, UK has not yet fully left.

As for “end of story”, I don’t think that’s correct as demonstrated by the number of threads on Brexit, Farage, Reform, etc,. That it appears in some form or another on almost every episode of BBC Question Time is further evidence I would say.

Quote " I would say that until UK leaves the ECHR, UK has not yet fully left."

Just that, or do you have a list. Should we have all BS standards again and dump all the other ones ?

For example, today I was looking up Engineering cap screw dimensions. DIN 912. German. Or should we insist on using BS4168 ? Oh look, BS4168 1981 has been superseded. The world uses that DIN.

How about this one.. this EU standard.

CL1994R2257EN0010010.0001 1..7 (europa.eu)

Bananas.

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2026 18:58

You are in a EU country, your human rights are protected.

Again it has nothing to do with the investigations into Farage and Reform.

What has QT so say about all these investigations?

EEexpat · 04/10/2026 18:47

@DuncinToffee

As per pointy,

We left. End of story.

I would say that until UK leaves the ECHR, UK has not yet fully left.

As for “end of story”, I don’t think that’s correct as demonstrated by the number of threads on Brexit, Farage, Reform, etc,. That it appears in some form or another on almost every episode of BBC Question Time is further evidence I would say.

pointythings · 04/10/2026 18:25

EEexpat · 04/10/2026 18:07

@DuncinToffee

What will remain do if the conclusion is not what they want?

You really need to get over Remain/Leave. There's no such thing any more. We left. End of story.

At present there are people who would like some form of closer collaboration up to and including Rejoin, people who don't care, people who don't think about it and people who still think leaving was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I suggest you adapt your posting accordingly.

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2026 18:10

What has the decision got to do with Remain?

It's just as stupid to ask what Leave will do if they don't get what they want.

EEexpat · 04/10/2026 18:07

@DuncinToffee

What will remain do if the conclusion is not what they want?

Clavinova · 29/09/2026 21:10

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2026 11:33

A decade of small boat migrants - how did it begin? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0w9zw57glo

Your link supports what EEexpat posted:

BBC South East first reported on a handful of boat arrivals in 2014 and 2015

Former coastguard Andy Roberts remembers in 2015 first hearing news about a small inflatable boat arriving with a few people on board - without life jackets - at Kingsdown beach, near Dover.

David Raynes, former assistant chief investigation officer, HM Customs and Excise, National Investigation Service...
"As I recall, the first boats in 2014/15 were making it across and hitting the beaches," he said.
"There was a gradual transition from hiding in lorries, as that was made more difficult."

TheRealSmurfette · 29/09/2026 21:02

TheGrimSmile · 03/09/2026 20:28

It doesn't matter what the slimey little toad does, his supporters make excuses for him.

Yup.

RedTagAlan · 29/09/2026 18:57

I thought this was interesting. Given the discussions above about James Orr etc, and the Evangelical money being poured into Reform, and maybe Restore.

Yes, Farage is not keen on Danny Tommo , sort of.. I think... but he supports the demonstrations. Seems complex.

But here is Danny turning up in court, for slashing a boat... and he has a Bible in hand.

Danny Tommo clutches Bible in court appearance as he's refused bail | News UK | Metro News

They are all playing the Christian angle. Lowe is more strongly into that than Farage, but it is the money that counts. And Farage likes the money.

For anyone that does not click the link, I have attached a clipped photo from it. Credit Elizabeth Cook. Drawn a few days ago in another court hearing... and THE TEARS... THE TEARS.

Now, with the terror attack diesel theft (maybe)the other day, and having read the bonkers thread on that, it got me pondering. How do Reform define the Venn diagram of flat out racists, overlapping with the OT evangelicals, the pro trickle down advovates... and the "Plonkers" ? What circles do they prioritize and target to get their votes ?

Seems to me, IMO, hence anecdotally, they go for the plonkers. Because there are some of them in every circle.

Channel 4 undercover re Farage
EEexpat · 29/09/2026 18:13

@blossomtoes

People shifted from entering the UK via ferries and lorries to boats as security checks for ferries and lorries increased.

Illegals will always enter the UK for the following reasons:

It’s profitable for the gangs.

UK employers can employ them illegally and pay cash in hand below the minimum wage.

As Macron has said, UK needs to reduce the pull factors.

RedTagAlan · 29/09/2026 15:18

Worrall20 · 28/09/2026 18:43

Aw Red, don’t get in a tiz. Farage never had shares in BYD, checked it on full fact, they say no! Although to be honest couldn’t care less.

Nope to Buffet as well I am afraid. Actually as a side note, we previously supplied Ashton Martin who were then bought out by Ford.

The conspiracy is Farage selling off the NHS? Think he has discussed more of an insurance plan based on a European model. The German Model is very very good, used it a few times actually. The NHS in its current form is not working.

Dont go down that rabbit hole please and another please, where do you get I am a Reform voter? Never voted Reform in my life! Very amusing.

Not in a tiz about anything. Here we are having a friendly chat as a diverse group, wee stories here and there... and you say I am somehow in a tiz and doing conspiricies.

Hey, each to their own.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2026 11:33

EEexpat · 29/09/2026 11:18

@DuncinToffee

Small boat crossings were not a thing in 2016

Heard that one before too. The first boat crossing into the UK was in 2014. Two years before the 2016 referendum.

First boat crossings in the Mediterranean Sea were in the mid 1990s. 14 years before article 50 was passed in 2009.

The fact remains:

Zero migrants entering the EU equals zero migrants arriving in Calais.

Zero arrivals in Calais equals zero boat arrivals in the UK.

Is the UK responsible for the EU failure to control their borders in the Mediterranean Sea and Eastern Europe? No, they aren’t.

UK failure, as pointed out by The French president, Macron, is not reducing the pull factors.

A decade of small boat migrants - how did it begin? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0w9zw57glo

A group of people, many wearing life jackets, are on a small boat off the coast, with two others trying to climb aboard.

A decade of small boat migrants - how did it begin?

A former Dover coastguard, an ex-border security chief and a customs boss recall the first landings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0w9zw57glo

EEexpat · 29/09/2026 11:18

@DuncinToffee

Small boat crossings were not a thing in 2016

Heard that one before too. The first boat crossing into the UK was in 2014. Two years before the 2016 referendum.

First boat crossings in the Mediterranean Sea were in the mid 1990s. 14 years before article 50 was passed in 2009.

The fact remains:

Zero migrants entering the EU equals zero migrants arriving in Calais.

Zero arrivals in Calais equals zero boat arrivals in the UK.

Is the UK responsible for the EU failure to control their borders in the Mediterranean Sea and Eastern Europe? No, they aren’t.

UK failure, as pointed out by The French president, Macron, is not reducing the pull factors.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2026 10:57

DuncinToffee · 29/09/2026 10:42

Ah yes, the good and bad immigrants. I have had that one, 'oh we don't mean you'

Probably the reason why you use 'expat'

Small boat crossings were not a thing in 2016 but Farage made it very clear with his poster which immigrants he was targetting.

Bit like they saying they want to protect women and girls but not the female heckler(s)

This poster. No white Europeans there even though they formed the majority of immigrants at the time.

Channel 4 undercover re Farage
DuncinToffee · 29/09/2026 10:42

Ah yes, the good and bad immigrants. I have had that one, 'oh we don't mean you'

Probably the reason why you use 'expat'

Small boat crossings were not a thing in 2016 but Farage made it very clear with his poster which immigrants he was targetting.

Bit like they saying they want to protect women and girls but not the female heckler(s)

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