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Has the West been taken in by Hamas’ lies and anti Israeli narrative?

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OpheliaWasntMad · 25/09/2026 16:59

https://nypost.com/2026/09/21/opinion/journalist-admits-anti-israel-narrative-driving-protests-is-based-on-hamas-lies/

This journalist admits that his reporting from Gaza was not accurate because he was afraid of retaliation from Hamas.
Why have so many believed every report from Gaza journalists?

Palestinian photojournalist Motaz Azaiza

Journalist admits: Anti-Israel narrative driving protests is based on Hamas lies

Journalist Motaz Azaiza’s new revelations exposing “SMART,” a Hamas-controlled group of reporters used to manage the media narrative about Gaza, reveal uncomfortable but important truths about near…

https://nypost.com/2026/09/21/opinion/journalist-admits-anti-israel-narrative-driving-protests-is-based-on-hamas-lies/

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Twiglets1 · Today 07:17

rainingsnoring · Yesterday 23:17

The statement is clearly factually incorrect. Do some research!

Update: I see that @LoremIpsumCici has helped you out here!

I agreed with @OpheliaWasntMad that Gaza is poor is because billions of dollars have been misspent on building tunnels and siphoned off by Hamas. And that Hamas leaders are extremely well off.

@LoremIpsumCici gave their opinion that this is not the only reason Gaza is poor and that it is more complex than just blaming Hamas. That's a fair point that there were other contributory factors

Overall though, it's still fair to say that a main reason why Gaza is poor is because billions in aid have been misappropriated by Hamas.

SingingShrews · Today 07:26

Twiglets1 · Today 06:59

I never said criticising the actions of the Israeli government or rogue IDF members was anti Israel, but it's not as though posters just stick to criticising them is it? As I said before, plenty of posts get deleted for antisemitism - which doesn't happen when people just criticise the government or IDF.

I also gave the example of the current thread that starts with the OP posing the question, If the current Israeli government manage to expel all Palestinians from the land, should all Israelis be held culpable for not trying to stop it. That's an anti Israel thread. Like it would be an anti Muslim thread is someone questioned whether all Muslims should be held culpable for something a Muslim government could potentially do.

Like it would be an anti Muslim thread is someone questioned whether all Muslims should be held culpable for something a Muslim government could potentially do.

That's not really the same thing at all is it? Israelis all live in Israel, all have the chance to vote in their elections, have the options to strike and protest against their government, refuse to serve in their armed forces etc. Israel is a democracy and in a democracy, ordinary people hold the ultimate political authority, power flows from the citizens to the government.

A random British Muslim for instance doesn't have anything to do with any Muslim government or Muslim country. They are British, live, vote, work etc in Britain. They might not even be aware of whatever Muslim governments existence because they are British and live in Britain.

rainingsnoring · Today 07:31

Twiglets1 · Today 06:59

I never said criticising the actions of the Israeli government or rogue IDF members was anti Israel, but it's not as though posters just stick to criticising them is it? As I said before, plenty of posts get deleted for antisemitism - which doesn't happen when people just criticise the government or IDF.

I also gave the example of the current thread that starts with the OP posing the question, If the current Israeli government manage to expel all Palestinians from the land, should all Israelis be held culpable for not trying to stop it. That's an anti Israel thread. Like it would be an anti Muslim thread is someone questioned whether all Muslims should be held culpable for something a Muslim government could potentially do.

You are mixing things up a bit there.
You have switched from a thread title that you see as 'anti Israel' (I don't) to talking about all Muslims. That is racist. The equivalent would be to ask if all Jews are responsible for the actions of the Israeli government.

Yes, there have been some antisemitic comments and even more Islamophobic ones and a number of people who display selective racism towards Arabs/Muslims only.

rainingsnoring · Today 07:34

Twiglets1 · Today 07:17

I agreed with @OpheliaWasntMad that Gaza is poor is because billions of dollars have been misspent on building tunnels and siphoned off by Hamas. And that Hamas leaders are extremely well off.

@LoremIpsumCici gave their opinion that this is not the only reason Gaza is poor and that it is more complex than just blaming Hamas. That's a fair point that there were other contributory factors

Overall though, it's still fair to say that a main reason why Gaza is poor is because billions in aid have been misappropriated by Hamas.

What @LoremIpsumCici said isn't opinion. It's a fact. You can have a very quick google and look at the causes of poverty in Gaza yourself.

I think it was @SharonEllis who made the initial comment that the ONLY reason Gaza was poor was because of Hamas. That is obviously incorrect and entirely let's the Israelis off the hook. We've seen this a number of times before from some posters.

rainingsnoring · Today 07:35

SingingShrews · Today 07:26

Like it would be an anti Muslim thread is someone questioned whether all Muslims should be held culpable for something a Muslim government could potentially do.

That's not really the same thing at all is it? Israelis all live in Israel, all have the chance to vote in their elections, have the options to strike and protest against their government, refuse to serve in their armed forces etc. Israel is a democracy and in a democracy, ordinary people hold the ultimate political authority, power flows from the citizens to the government.

A random British Muslim for instance doesn't have anything to do with any Muslim government or Muslim country. They are British, live, vote, work etc in Britain. They might not even be aware of whatever Muslim governments existence because they are British and live in Britain.

Exactly.
Interesting how the two things seem to be the same in Twigs mind.

SingingShrews · Today 08:16

rainingsnoring · Today 07:35

Exactly.
Interesting how the two things seem to be the same in Twigs mind.

It is a pretty strange comparison to come to mind rather than are all American/French/Danish people responsible for the actions of their government which would be the obvious comparison to all Israelis.

Boolabus · Today 08:30

rainingsnoring · Today 07:35

Exactly.
Interesting how the two things seem to be the same in Twigs mind.

Yes agreed.

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