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Regretting letting MIL move in, feel mentally unwell over it. AIBU to ask what to do?

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Aristocack · 23/10/2026 20:18

I made a thread a couple of weeks ago about the struggles I have been experiencing since having my baby. The struggles have been with my partner and his family. He had various family members from his home country visit for 10 days when my baby was 2 weeks old and I found it incredibly difficult and ended up having to see the peri-natal mental health team.

I had issues with my partner critiquing my parenting in front of his family members. I also was bleeding, recovering from birth and trying to establish breastfeeding and had other people in my house, hovering, grabbing baby off me etc. It was hell. They finally left after 10 days and I felt better (though I've still been dealing with post-natal OCD symptoms and severe anxiety/intrusive thoughts but I've been working with the peri-natal team). I had strong words with my partner about how he had made me feel and he has been much better and much more supportive.

Unfortunately things have gone to shit again. A few months ago back when I was still pregnant, DP's mum (I'll just refer to her as MIL as it's easier) who was living abroad with her partner revealed to my partner (over the phone) that her boyfriend had become emotionally abusive. Me and my partner spoke about it and we agreed that he could tell her that she could come and live with us if things got too bad. She said she'd think about it. I felt sorry for her.

In the past few days she has taken us up on the offer and has flown over and moved in. My partner isn't from the UK originally and his mum does not speak English and I don't speak their language. I was kept updated on the arrangements of her moving here but I haven't directly spoken to her in detail due to the language barrier.

She arrived on the 20th October. By all intents and purposes it seems like it's going to be a permanent move. I'm so regretting saying that she can come. She's in her 60s with a health issue and unlikely to ever work or move out.

I can't natter with her as we don't speak the same language. She keeps grabbing 5 week old DS off me. I can't breastfeed downstairs as I'm uncomfortable with her seeing my breasts. She has taken my spot on the sofa in between where DP sits and DS's moses basket and she will sit and rock the basket when DS cries meanwhile I am on the small sofa where I can't even lie down. She keeps rearranging the kitchen. She comes from a culture that is taboo about mental health and she is always in the living room so I've had to ask my mental health support team to let me come to their office for appointments as I'm uncomfortable them coming to my home - I had to travel to a psychological appointment (that would usually be a home visit) in the storm today with DS on the bus. She stays up until midnight most nights.

I won't go as far as saying I want to kill myself but I feel like I've ruined my motherhood and family life and our new home which we just purchased a few months ago. I hate myself, I should never have offered for her to live with us.

I'm feeling extremely vulnerable as it is with the post-natal OCD. My main comfort and way of distracting myself from the OCD thoughts was by getting myself cosy on our sofa, cuddling/feeding DS, getting a bit blanket over me and having cuddles and chats with DP whilst watching a comfort show. That has gone now, it's been taken away. Even watching TV we have to watch it dubbed in their language with English subtitles as she doesn't speak English and her eyesight is too bad for her to have the subtitles.

Despite exclusively breastfeeding my period has also returned at 5 weeks PP and I am bleeding incredibly heavily. I am essentially living in adult nappies and in terrible pain (I have endometriosis). I keep flooding my pads and through my clothes and I was in A&E yesterday where they had to give me a prescription to slow the flow of blood. Im so physically uncomfortable and I can't even lie down and relax on my sofa and I feel trapped upstairs in the bedroom as I keep leaking blood

I don't know what to do. I have ruined my life. I don't know how I can get rid of MIL now and I feel like a terrible person for even wanting to. Life barely feels worth living. I need to get all of this off my chest and DP is sat downstairs chatting to his mum so I can't talk to him. I genuinely feel lost and like I'm in hell and like there's no way out.

My mum is supportive over text/over the phone but she is a full time carer to my autistic sibling and I can't go and stay with her/live with her due to my autistic sibling having severe mental health issues.

I feel so lonely

OP posts:
Aristocack · Yesterday 11:10

My partner called me retarded last night because I overheated a bottle of expressed milk in the warmer. DS didn't get burnt or anything, it was obvious from holding the bottle that it was too hot so we never even got close to feeding it to DS. He got frustrated and said "your mother is retarded" in a raised voice to DS and then told me to get away from DS when I tried to get him back to breastfeed. This morning he acted like it never happened and kissed me on the forehead. Outright insults is a new thing from him. He's had issues with how he treats me but it's usually more subtle digs and negging. A raised voice and shouting and insult is really new behaviour.

I feel completely broken again. He is at work. Went down to make some toast just now and MIL straight away came to me trying to get me to eat something that she had baked which I just really didn't want as it has dates in which I despise. She has left her used handkerchief on the coffee table again and was barefoot on the sofa where I usually like to lie down in the day but I no longer want to lie down there due to her feet. She will cook to help but often the meals she cooks aren't to my taste and I feel pressured to eat them (they hate wasting food) even though I'd rather just do myself a jacket potato. As soon as I come downstairs she'll keep saying "eat eat" and prepare me a plate.

I think her presence is worsening my OCD symptoms as I'm now starting to feel anxious about germs/contamination which isn't a way my OCD had presented before. I can accept germs from myself, partner and DS as we are a family unit but I can't consciously accept her as a member of the household in my mind and she feels like an interloper which is why the thought of her germs in my safe space stresses me out. Then my previous OCD intrusive visions about harm coming to DS seem to be worsening, I had a horrendous one yesterday when getting him ready for bed. I think the stress from everything is making it worse. There's one staff member on the mental health team, I'm not sure what her role is exactly but I see her for most of my appointments, she is like a key worker. She has expressed serious concern about MIL's presence in what is supposed to be my safe and calm space.

I want to go to a hotel but I'm concerned to travel with DS in the storm and MIL is downstairs so would see me leaving. I'm in my bedroom with DS now

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AshCullen1894 · Yesterday 11:13

You need to get away from them. Call Women's Aid for advice. Speak to health visitor and anybody else who can talk you through it. Space from the man who thinks you have zero value is what you need right now.

Aristocack · Yesterday 11:19

I am scared that if my mental health dips too much then I will be deemed incapable to care for DS and he'll get left with his dad, except his dad works a lot so it will be MIL doing all of the care and then she'll think he is hers. I just want to get on a train with DS and go somewhere random and far away but that would technically be abduction of DS as I'd be doing it without partner's permission so I'm not actually going to do it, I do wish I could though

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ilovebrie8 · Yesterday 11:22

This gets worse and worse OP.

So you had the SIL and her partner staying, they left and now the MIL has taken up residence.

It is her or you, she needs to go it is as simple as that as she is making you uncomfortable in your own home, that is not okay.

Where does she normally live?

Aristocack · Yesterday 11:27

ilovebrie8 · Yesterday 11:22

This gets worse and worse OP.

So you had the SIL and her partner staying, they left and now the MIL has taken up residence.

It is her or you, she needs to go it is as simple as that as she is making you uncomfortable in your own home, that is not okay.

Where does she normally live?

She was living in the EU with her partner. I had mentioned earlier in the thread that when I was pregnant she told DP that her partner was becoming quite abusive. At that time my mental health was fine and I was in a really good place in myself and in my relationship with DP. That's why I told DP he could offer to have her stay with us. She didn't take us up on it at the time and I presumed it wasn't going to happen but she then got in touch recently to ask if the offer was still on the table. I hugely regret it. She is here now and has nowhere else to go, she has debt and no savings, has knee problems so can't really work, doesn't want to go back to the other country. If anyone has any practical suggestions about how to get her living somewhere else in the UK despite her financial circumstances then I'd definitely want to hear them.

The original plan that we had was that she could live with us rent-free and just support with childcare when I go back to work in return for this but now this idea horrifies me. I don't want to leave DS with her, I'm not sure why as I'm sure DS isn't in danger with her but something in my mum instincts is saying no. As irritating as SIL was when she was here, I still trusted her to have DS on her own for an hour or two and I'm not feeling that with MIL. I think it's probably because she's here permanently and I am worried she will take over. When I go back to work I now want DS in a nursery with professional staff and other kids to play with. Because she is expecting to be a childcare support, as soon as I go downstairs when DS she hovers around and sort of waits for me to give her DS and I'm just not doing it, she clearly doesn't know what to do with herself so she keeps baking

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Treehorns · Yesterday 11:31

He is abusing you.
It is that simple.
You have to put your baby first and go to your mothers, brother or no brother.
She has a room.
Tell the MH team the truth.
Ring 101 and ask for help.
You can do this.

ilovebrie8 · Yesterday 11:33

She won't get housed elsewhere there is a huge housing crisis.
She needs to go and live with her own kids the SIL that was staying with you.
Her accomodation is not your problem to fix.

unicornsandstardust · Yesterday 11:35

We've been discharged from midwife but when they would visit and ask me about feeding etc, I would start to answer the question and then DP would jump in and take over the conversation (not in an intentionally controlling way, he had genuine questions about feeding techniques but he would interrupt me)

I reclaimed my spot on the sofa. It was quite awkward. I came downstairs with DS asleep in my arms, she was in spot on the sofa next to the moses basket. I politely asked her to budge up on the sofa and she misunderstood me (I'm not sure how as I said "excuse me") and thought I was asking her to hold DS so she took him off me and sat back down. I then sat on the other sofa and asked her to put DS in his basket. As she was doing that I went and took the spot on the sofa. It may seem like a silly thing to be so obsessed with having a particular spot on the sofa but when I'm sat it here it means I can see DS, comfort him with my hand when he cries and pick him up when he cries without having to stand up and walk across the room. I really felt quite stressed when she was sat there, it felt like somebody else's home and somebody else's baby. Its a small social etiquette that she was completely missing

OP I'm glad you've started to take back your space but you need to understand that things like this you wrote above are very much intentional means of controlling you, done in a subtle way that isn't necessarily immediately obvious to outsiders (or even to you) but nonetheless has the effect they want: you are silenced and you are pushed to the periphery during your own appointments and in your own home.

Your partner and MIL are not oblivious to this effect, they know what they're doing and they're choosing to do it.

He knows midwife appointments are for the new mother, he just doesn't want you having time alone with a professional to talk about things of your choosing. So he controlled the narrative, not because he's interested in feeding techniques (he banished you to the sofa FFS so he could sleep without waking, that's how interested in feeding he is!) but so that it would be hard for anyone to dismiss him from the conversation without looking as if they were being unreasonable. By keeping the midwife engaged in professional conversation it's harder for her to notice you're not being allowed to speak and she leaves with the impression there's been plenty of talk about baby related things, without necessarily realising you've had zero opportunity to speak about anything troubling you, which is one of the main points of the appointment. Your partner also gets to make himself look like an involved and interested dad, and at first glance a supportive partner - but it's all smoke-and-mirrors, a far cry from how he treats you behind closed doors when nobody can see. By taking over your midwife appointments he also took away your best opportunity to talk about the state of your relationship to a sympathetic professional ear. There's nothing accidental about that.

MIL knows you sit there on the sofa, she's seen you. And if she needed further hint, it's where the baby's basket is! Your partner definitely knows it's her and not you by his side of an evening too. They both knew you'd like to watch your choice of TV in English in your own home, they just didn't care.

It's all part of being gaslit OP, doing things in such a manner that it's dressed up as "best for everyone" (except you) and you're made to feel unreasonable to complain or to want things to be different. Not every abuser smacks you round the head. It's actually easier in a way if they do, at least most people recognise that as wrong. The subtle psychological stuff can be far more harmful, in part because it goes unnoticed and in part because the wounds it leaves can be far harder to recover from than physical bruises.

Never ever forget that this selfish man put his own comfort and that of his family above you, the mother of his child who'd just given birth. You come last in his pecking order and he thinks that's fine. Sure, you can be assertive and fight to take up space in your own life and home, but don't underestimate how exhausting it will be both mentally and physically to live like this, effectively at war in your own home. It's not you or your feelings that are unreasonable here, it's them (his whole biological family) and the way they're treating you. Not one of them respects you.

The longer you stay in this situation the more you normalise it to yourself. It's just something to be aware of because over time you'll find yourself questioning whether you're in the right, whether you're unreasonable or whether there's more you could be doing to improve relationships with people who don't care about you, relationships that you didn't break in the first place and it isn't your job to fix. You'll find yourself taking misplaced responsibility for others emotions, not because you want to or because you feel in an obvious way that you're being made to, but because if you do the homelife situation is more peaceful. If you do X totally normal and reasonable thing, he/she will have opinions on it and you're not in the mood (too ground down over time) for dealing with it so you "decide" to do Y instead in the name of peace and harmony, except you don't actually want to do Y, but you and your opinions have ceased to matter even to yourself. So coercive control take its insidious effects and you slowly find yourself living under his thumb, without ever realising it's even happening. Remember to hold it firm in your mind every time you doubt yourself: it's not you, there's nothing wrong with you, you're not the unreasonable one.

Credittocress · Yesterday 11:38

Aristocack · 25/10/2026 14:38

It was a pain shopping today. The 4 of us went. Every time I picked up a sweet snack that I wanted she wound tell DP "We don't need that, I'm baking at home" and then he'd pass that on to me. I ignored it and bought what I wanted anyway. She's trying to be nice by baking but it's irritating. She was clearly unhappy with some of the prices of things I was purchasing - I like to get organic eggs and had put them in the trolley. She grabbed caged eggs off the shelf and said "cheaper" and swapped them over. I ignored her and changed them back.

I feel quite possessive over DS and I'm hogging him all of the time, I'm trying to get a message across but she stares when I'm holding him like she's waiting for me to offer. Wherever I go, DS is going.

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Proud of you OP

Ilovelifeverymuch · Yesterday 11:42

Aristocack · Yesterday 11:10

My partner called me retarded last night because I overheated a bottle of expressed milk in the warmer. DS didn't get burnt or anything, it was obvious from holding the bottle that it was too hot so we never even got close to feeding it to DS. He got frustrated and said "your mother is retarded" in a raised voice to DS and then told me to get away from DS when I tried to get him back to breastfeed. This morning he acted like it never happened and kissed me on the forehead. Outright insults is a new thing from him. He's had issues with how he treats me but it's usually more subtle digs and negging. A raised voice and shouting and insult is really new behaviour.

I feel completely broken again. He is at work. Went down to make some toast just now and MIL straight away came to me trying to get me to eat something that she had baked which I just really didn't want as it has dates in which I despise. She has left her used handkerchief on the coffee table again and was barefoot on the sofa where I usually like to lie down in the day but I no longer want to lie down there due to her feet. She will cook to help but often the meals she cooks aren't to my taste and I feel pressured to eat them (they hate wasting food) even though I'd rather just do myself a jacket potato. As soon as I come downstairs she'll keep saying "eat eat" and prepare me a plate.

I think her presence is worsening my OCD symptoms as I'm now starting to feel anxious about germs/contamination which isn't a way my OCD had presented before. I can accept germs from myself, partner and DS as we are a family unit but I can't consciously accept her as a member of the household in my mind and she feels like an interloper which is why the thought of her germs in my safe space stresses me out. Then my previous OCD intrusive visions about harm coming to DS seem to be worsening, I had a horrendous one yesterday when getting him ready for bed. I think the stress from everything is making it worse. There's one staff member on the mental health team, I'm not sure what her role is exactly but I see her for most of my appointments, she is like a key worker. She has expressed serious concern about MIL's presence in what is supposed to be my safe and calm space.

I want to go to a hotel but I'm concerned to travel with DS in the storm and MIL is downstairs so would see me leaving. I'm in my bedroom with DS now

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Putting aside be the situation with his mother which is bad enough, this man doesn't love or respect you and there is no way that this only started when you had a baby.

I don't see a scenario where he will take your wife over his mother so as I said in my last post you need to start planning your exit even as you try to have a serious discussion with him and possibly his mother to set ground rules and boundaries.

This isn't a way to live.

"I want to go to a hotel but I'm concerned to travel with DS in the storm and MIL is downstairs so would see me leaving."

And so??? I think this is beyond the point of trying not to upset her or avoid confrontation. I'm not saying you need to be screaming and shouting but you need to be firm and do what you need to do and be ready to call the police or help if needed.

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 11:44

How did you manage to overheat the expressed milk and why was it needed if you were available to breastfeeding?
I do think that some of it is a cultural clash and your MH/OCD. However I don't think that it's going to improve or be sorted out while you are in the home with your MIL. Being in your Mum's will help you seperate what's your living situation and your MH. I think that you need to go to stay with her, you are living in your bedroom anyway. I also think that your DP needs to be involved in your MH treatment, if you were to go back. It's impossible to use strategies while you live with your MIL. I don't think that this is all on your DP. You agreed for her to come to live with you. She isn't able to do anything about her now, situation. However, he doesn't and never has, treated you well. That again, could be a norm for were he is from etc. It would take a lot of work, to make this work. While you stay, you are in danger of losing residency. I'd make the break while you are breastfeeding.

HeyThereDelila · Yesterday 11:45

I had PND, OP. It is awful and in a situation like this you will not recover.

Surely your MIL doesn’t have a legal right to stay long term in this country? What visa is she on?

Tell your partner she can’t stay. Say your mental health made you suggest something that has not worked. You need this time just you, him and your baby.

Postpartum is bad at the best of times let alone like this. She must move out- give him a hard deadline and explain you’re desperate.

I’d tell your midwife too and ask to speak to a social worker. They will give you help and you should go on to the council house waiting list in case the situation becomes unsustainable.

HeyThereDelila · Yesterday 11:49

Just seen your updates. Your DP is abusing you. Good men do not call their partners names ever.

Call Women’s Aid.

Aristocack · Yesterday 11:54

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 11:44

How did you manage to overheat the expressed milk and why was it needed if you were available to breastfeeding?
I do think that some of it is a cultural clash and your MH/OCD. However I don't think that it's going to improve or be sorted out while you are in the home with your MIL. Being in your Mum's will help you seperate what's your living situation and your MH. I think that you need to go to stay with her, you are living in your bedroom anyway. I also think that your DP needs to be involved in your MH treatment, if you were to go back. It's impossible to use strategies while you live with your MIL. I don't think that this is all on your DP. You agreed for her to come to live with you. She isn't able to do anything about her now, situation. However, he doesn't and never has, treated you well. That again, could be a norm for were he is from etc. It would take a lot of work, to make this work. While you stay, you are in danger of losing residency. I'd make the break while you are breastfeeding.

I had some back pain from breastfeeding constantly for a few hours (DS is in a cluster feeding phase). The expressed milk was from yesterday morning and had been in the fridge. We have the Phillips Avent bottle warmer machine which takes away the coldness from the fridge and makes the bottle a more pleasant temperature for DS. Its supposed to only be in for 3 minutes but I forgot to set the alarm on my phone.

I agree it's partly my fault as it was equally my idea for her to move in and she has been abused

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Ponoka7 · Yesterday 11:56

Aristocack · Yesterday 11:54

I had some back pain from breastfeeding constantly for a few hours (DS is in a cluster feeding phase). The expressed milk was from yesterday morning and had been in the fridge. We have the Phillips Avent bottle warmer machine which takes away the coldness from the fridge and makes the bottle a more pleasant temperature for DS. Its supposed to only be in for 3 minutes but I forgot to set the alarm on my phone.

I agree it's partly my fault as it was equally my idea for her to move in and she has been abused

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That's fair enough and something most of us has done, although it was a pan in my day. I was worried that you were being pressured to hand over feeding. Seriously consider going to your mum's.

30DegreesHighAndRising · Yesterday 12:13

Have you been able to talk about your situation to the professionals supporting you?

Unfortunately it seems that the longer you stay with him (it's not a partnership so I can't use that word), the longer you stay, the worse your self-esteem and confidence will be. He's not going to change, there's something about becoming parents that can unleash deep-held attitudes, so it's not surprising that you didn't expect him to behave in this way. But if he's not willing to talk and share the experience now in the newborn days then you can expect this will be your life if you stay with him.

We all appreciate it's not easy but you're a frog in a pan of water, and it seems that we can all see the gas being turned up. Only you can change this, and you can do it. You just need some perspective from normal people. Go for the pram walks, talk to people in real life. Let them remind you what things could be like for you.

unicornsandstardust · Yesterday 12:22

Regarding MIL living situation, her options are the same as anyone's and she'll like them about the same too!

Does she have recourse to public funds? Having ILR is separate I believe. If she does she can claim UC, they will decide if she's too unwell to work. Highly unlikely with "knee issues", they'll expect her to take painkillers, use crutches and see a doctor about getting the issue fixed. There are still various jobs she can do with an iffy knee.

She also doesn't get to choose the type of work (within reason, she wouldn't expect to be a roofer with a bad leg for example, but neither can she claim astronaut is the only job she's interested in and she can't find work!) if she's judged to be a job seeker and not too unwell to do anything. She'll be expected to learn English and get glasses so she can see, to improve her work prospects.

Once she's in receipt of benefits or has a job she can save up and move out to a room in an HMO or a one bedroom flat. It's harder to find a landlord who'd accept her without a job, but they do exist and if you kicked her out so she was officially homeless she'd be helped to find somewhere by the council. If she's on benefits or low income will get housing costs to help pay the rent.

This won't happen if your partner says she's welcome to stay living with you though or if she doesn't have recourse to public funds.

She also could have gone to seek help with the authorities in whatever country she lived in with her ex when she wanted to leave him. Her only options weren't staying in an abusive marriage or living with you. So I'm assuming you'd meet fierce opposition from her and your partner at any attempts to make her stand on her own two feet. This isn't a case of a frail elderly MIL in a dire situation without any other options, this is a case of a working age woman who just doesn't want to work and would rather mooch off men.

I imagine she will never leave, because the plan cooked up with your partner was that he'd fund her financially and put a roof over her head for the rest of her life as if she were a dependent and you'd provide any care she needs. If she won't or can't claim UC, if she won't comply with it's rules or won't get a job, if she doesn't fancy having to be independent or live in a small property, if her and your partner are both happy for her to live there in a house he part owns - then realistically you can't get her out. Not without splitting up and selling the house.

You really need to stop paying into the mortgage if at all possible legally and I hope you didn't put in a big deposit either, because you're going to have a hell of a job getting the house sold if you split up, with two of them blocking the sale. Realistically anything you've put in or continue to put in you're likely to lose, because you're not much of a fighter and legal battles can cost as much as you'd gain or even more if there's not much equity in the property.

Your best bet is to look after your own interests. If you haven't already registered the birth, don't put your partner on the birth certificate, he can still get parental rights but he's have to apply for them, it just makes it harder for him so he might not bother. And give baby your surname. Make sure child benefit is going into your own bank account not a joint one. Start savings of your own, you're not married so these won't be split with him if you break up. Maybe you can't stay with your mum but perhaps you could store at her place things you might need to set up in a home of your own. So you could collect them gradually instead of having the expense all at once. Don't take out any joint loans, agree to pay for any car finance etc for a car that isn't in your name, do your best to remain as financially separate from your partner as possible, that's the best way to keep your own options open. Have the utilities in either your name or his (not joint names and not in your name if there's likely to be anyone running up debt on the account). If you move out you just take a meter reading, inform the company you've gone and pay the final bill, if it's in your name. Any utilities not in your name you can simply ignore, they're nothing to do with you.

SirenScream · Yesterday 12:23

I pray that you will escape this man soon. And when you do you must never let him back. Leave him and his mother far behind you and let them rot together.

unicornsandstardust · Yesterday 12:39

Outright insults is a new thing from him. He's had issues with how he treats me but it's usually more subtle digs and negging. A raised voice and shouting and insult is really new behaviour.

It being new isn't a reason to dismiss it. It won't be a one off it never is. He's escalating and that's bad news. Can you see the pattern? You started asserting yourself and his behaviour became more abusive. This is typical and the reason it's not possible to stay in an abusive relationship. Not without becoming a shadow of yourself and under his thumb anyway. He will escalate further over time. His behaviour isn't new this is just the latest appalling thing he's done. It's parental alienation, saying that to your child. It's abusing the child too by dragging them into an adult disagreement like that and saying negative untrue things about their parent.

You really need to tell any professionals you're involved with about his behaviour, all of it - and get in touch with Women's Aid, whether you're planning on leaving him or not you still need to join one of their groups for support.

I disagree with pp about him needing to be involved with your MH treatment OP, that's the last thing you need, he's the cause of your MH issues!

unicornsandstardust · Yesterday 12:53

agree it's partly my fault as it was equally my idea for her to move in and she has been abused

OP please stop telling yourself this situation you're in is your own fault. Your brain hears this and it affects your self confidence. They've taught you to start gaslighting yourself, please stop it.

Firstly you have zero evidence your MIL was ever abused, this was the story told to you to get you to agree to her moving in and it may have never been true. Secondly, even if she has, it doesn't give her the right to abuse you! Nor does it give your partner that right. She could have sought help for abused women in the country she was living, she could have gone to stay at her daughter's place in that country.

I'll bet this is nothing to do either being abused and everything to do with her wanting to move to UK. Probably for NHS and pension.
But also because your partner wants her there as backup for his abuse of you. He's tied you to him, first with purchasing a joint house, second with a baby, and now he's achieved those ties he's moved his mother in so they can abuse you 2-to-1.

Don't forget, while he's at work he now has eyes on you at home via MIL, this is not coincidence. I'll bet too that your child will be refused daycare and peer socialising by your partner, on the grounds its not needed because MIL can do it, meaning him and MIL now control your child too.

If you had fair and reasonable control over your own life you wouldn't be having to assert yourself with MIL because she wouldn't be trampling your boundaries in the first place. You wouldn't be afraid of her seeing you leave. You wouldn't be feeling uncomfortable around her, because the second you started feeling that way you'd have felt secure and confident enough to ask her to leave, telling your partner it wasn't working out to have her living there - and you could expect him to back you up in that. But you feel none of these things because you're in an abusive relationship and that is not your fault.

GrantMyWishes · Yesterday 13:29

unicornsandstardust · Yesterday 11:35

We've been discharged from midwife but when they would visit and ask me about feeding etc, I would start to answer the question and then DP would jump in and take over the conversation (not in an intentionally controlling way, he had genuine questions about feeding techniques but he would interrupt me)

I reclaimed my spot on the sofa. It was quite awkward. I came downstairs with DS asleep in my arms, she was in spot on the sofa next to the moses basket. I politely asked her to budge up on the sofa and she misunderstood me (I'm not sure how as I said "excuse me") and thought I was asking her to hold DS so she took him off me and sat back down. I then sat on the other sofa and asked her to put DS in his basket. As she was doing that I went and took the spot on the sofa. It may seem like a silly thing to be so obsessed with having a particular spot on the sofa but when I'm sat it here it means I can see DS, comfort him with my hand when he cries and pick him up when he cries without having to stand up and walk across the room. I really felt quite stressed when she was sat there, it felt like somebody else's home and somebody else's baby. Its a small social etiquette that she was completely missing

OP I'm glad you've started to take back your space but you need to understand that things like this you wrote above are very much intentional means of controlling you, done in a subtle way that isn't necessarily immediately obvious to outsiders (or even to you) but nonetheless has the effect they want: you are silenced and you are pushed to the periphery during your own appointments and in your own home.

Your partner and MIL are not oblivious to this effect, they know what they're doing and they're choosing to do it.

He knows midwife appointments are for the new mother, he just doesn't want you having time alone with a professional to talk about things of your choosing. So he controlled the narrative, not because he's interested in feeding techniques (he banished you to the sofa FFS so he could sleep without waking, that's how interested in feeding he is!) but so that it would be hard for anyone to dismiss him from the conversation without looking as if they were being unreasonable. By keeping the midwife engaged in professional conversation it's harder for her to notice you're not being allowed to speak and she leaves with the impression there's been plenty of talk about baby related things, without necessarily realising you've had zero opportunity to speak about anything troubling you, which is one of the main points of the appointment. Your partner also gets to make himself look like an involved and interested dad, and at first glance a supportive partner - but it's all smoke-and-mirrors, a far cry from how he treats you behind closed doors when nobody can see. By taking over your midwife appointments he also took away your best opportunity to talk about the state of your relationship to a sympathetic professional ear. There's nothing accidental about that.

MIL knows you sit there on the sofa, she's seen you. And if she needed further hint, it's where the baby's basket is! Your partner definitely knows it's her and not you by his side of an evening too. They both knew you'd like to watch your choice of TV in English in your own home, they just didn't care.

It's all part of being gaslit OP, doing things in such a manner that it's dressed up as "best for everyone" (except you) and you're made to feel unreasonable to complain or to want things to be different. Not every abuser smacks you round the head. It's actually easier in a way if they do, at least most people recognise that as wrong. The subtle psychological stuff can be far more harmful, in part because it goes unnoticed and in part because the wounds it leaves can be far harder to recover from than physical bruises.

Never ever forget that this selfish man put his own comfort and that of his family above you, the mother of his child who'd just given birth. You come last in his pecking order and he thinks that's fine. Sure, you can be assertive and fight to take up space in your own life and home, but don't underestimate how exhausting it will be both mentally and physically to live like this, effectively at war in your own home. It's not you or your feelings that are unreasonable here, it's them (his whole biological family) and the way they're treating you. Not one of them respects you.

The longer you stay in this situation the more you normalise it to yourself. It's just something to be aware of because over time you'll find yourself questioning whether you're in the right, whether you're unreasonable or whether there's more you could be doing to improve relationships with people who don't care about you, relationships that you didn't break in the first place and it isn't your job to fix. You'll find yourself taking misplaced responsibility for others emotions, not because you want to or because you feel in an obvious way that you're being made to, but because if you do the homelife situation is more peaceful. If you do X totally normal and reasonable thing, he/she will have opinions on it and you're not in the mood (too ground down over time) for dealing with it so you "decide" to do Y instead in the name of peace and harmony, except you don't actually want to do Y, but you and your opinions have ceased to matter even to yourself. So coercive control take its insidious effects and you slowly find yourself living under his thumb, without ever realising it's even happening. Remember to hold it firm in your mind every time you doubt yourself: it's not you, there's nothing wrong with you, you're not the unreasonable one.

OP, please re-read this post and take onboard everything that 'unicornsandstardust' has said, they are absolutely right about it ALL!!

Also, please don't be afraid to leave today and go to a hotel. What can MIL do even if she sees you? You don't have to tell her where you're going, and as she supposedly doesn't speak English anyway, she wouldn't understand if you did, but if she asks where you're going, just say 'out'. If she asks to come with you, say 'not possible', then just leave with NO HESITATION. The worst she can do is call your partner, and if she doesn't know where you've gone, she can't tell him, can she?

Once you're safely in a hotel, then please start looking at the options to get help that other posters have told you about, and start making the necessary calls.

I know it's hard, but your REALLY DO need to leave NOW, as the longer you leave it, the harder it will be.

Sending you a strength to do what needs doing, and a hug to help you and baby on your way.

ilovebrie8 · Yesterday 14:48

A good point has been pointed out you don't know if the MIL was being abused or not. It could well be made up and she has other reasons to want to come here to get NHS/pension etc Plus keep an eye on you when your partner is out at work and take over.

Send her packing and reclaim your home. Where she goes is not your problem and it will only get worse having her living with you.

You and your little one are all that matters.

Holeymoley28 · Yesterday 14:53

You need to leave. Men let their masks slip when their partner is at her most vulnerable and your partner is slowly getting worse and worse.

You won’t see it as badly yourself. Like the boiled frog. Contact your mental health nurse, contact woman’s aid. Go to your mums or a safe space they can arrange.

You need to look forward to this as a separation because he doesn’t have your back and he will get worse.

PotentialPartTimer · Yesterday 15:05

You, as a breastfeeding mother of a newborn, will never have the level of support you will get now again. Grab the bull by the horns and contact your health visitor and mental health team and tell them you need tobleave your house because he is deliberately making you MH worse. Don't allow him to grind you down until you really are too unwell to care for your son.

Aristocack · Yesterday 20:13

I hate myself for allowing this to happen. Me and DP discussed it months ago and I thought MIL moving in would be best for everyone. She'd get to escape the abusive partner and be supported, partner would have a family member present in the UK, DS would have a grandma to be close to, I'd have support with childcare and could save on nursery bills etc. Back when I was pregnant and mentally well I actually thought it'd be a good functional home environment. I can't believe I thought it was a good idea. Maybe I actually was mentally poorly then too and just hasn't realised it?

I feel like I've given up my home and my DS for the sake of some abstract idea of having a bit of extra money and me-time. Like I said, because the agreement was she can live rent-free in exchange for supporting with childcare she is expecting to be given DS and she stands and startes/hovers whenever I'm downstairs with DS. I find it sort of creepy and I blank her and pretend she isn't there. I know she was very strict with partner in his childhood and if he ever spilt a drink he would get screamed at and clipped round the ear (he only disclosed that to me recently) and I don't want her alone with DS even when I do go back to work.

The mental health team have prescribed me a medication, they say it will stop the intrusive thoughts I have been having where I hear of news stories of children being harmed and I correlate it to DS or I think of my own childhood trauma where I was abused online by men as a vulnerable teenager with mental health issues and I feel horrible that I've brought DS into the world when people like that (people who harm children) exist. So they've prescribed medication to try and help with that but they have said that medication isn't a miracle solution and I also need psychological therapy and most importantly my home situation needs dealing with as I can't get better if I don't have a safe space .

Even my mum who is usually on my side says it's rich of me to invite MIL to live with us and then want to turf her out almost immediately and mum says I need to deal with her

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