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I’ve failed raising my ds

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Lastradaleia · Yesterday 19:56

I’m feeling like I dont know what else to do and he’s getting worse and worse

Context - he’s the youngest with a big age gap, when he was about 2 weeks old i found out his dad had been having an affair with a much younger woman who was around the same age as my then stepson (18). I stayed with him but I really struggled to bond with DS due to PND most likely but I wasnt ever diagnosed. He just reminded me of his dad’s affair and we eventually split for good when ds had just turned 2, after i found out about his dad’s debts.

His dad still had contact with him although it did get more sporadic especially when id started a new relationship and he still wanted me back. Contact then stopped when he was 7 because his dad was arrested and accused of a serious offence, the other parents knew and kept their children away from ds even though we weren’t together and i was mostly involved in his schooling and doing all the school runs. We moved a few hours away for a fresh start and we were happy and ds was a sweet little boy

His dad ended up being found not guilty after 2 years, ds was about 9 but contact was still sporadic. Then 6 years ago my dd passed away due to an accident, and I think since then i’ve been softer on him. I also probably didn’t parent him right because I was struggling mentally

He started secondary and he lasted about a term before i deregged him. I z planned to homeschool atleast some parts but he wasn’t very receptive and I was struggling with my mental health, anxiety and depression and I also had agoraphobia which I am now getting help for but a while I didn’t and maybe I neglected ds in some way because he did what he wanted and the years passed and he’s now 16 and he’s awful. I feel like i’ve made it worse because he would smash his phones and to give me peace id get it replaced or fixed because i couldn’t deal with it.

Hes mouthy and regularly swears at me, goes out drinking and smokes cigarettes but i wouldn’t be surprised if he does drugs. I dont know where he goes or who with. He watches really violent porn and when i found it on his phone i tried talking to him about it and he called me a perv, I have put blocks on his phone but he gets around it somehow. He says racist language and is causing issues with a neighbour who overheard it, I don’t share his views/don’t use the language/slurs at all so I don’t know where he’s got it from but he laughs and says it’s not aimed at them but it’s stressing me out. I’m really at a wits end with him, we’ve had yet another argument today over his room being a tip and he told me he’s not my fucking slave and called me a useless bitch for refusing to help him tidy it and find his vape. He’s now gone out

He’s really stressing me out and I know I should’ve done more but I don’t know where to go from here

I haven’t posted every little thing as I don’t want this to be super long

OP posts:
Italiangreyhound · Today 14:45

My son is adopted and so we had some post adoption support.

One thing we tried was Non-Violent Resistance NVR. It is worth looking it up online and reading about it.

One other thought, could you and your son do a short session volunteering together? I know it will seem impossible to even think of it so you may need to do it alone at first.

It would give you a chance to meet people. Get out if the house for a very short time.

It could be with animals in a rescue centre, in a community or church cafe, in a charity shop. There is likely to be the chance of a very flexible arrangement so you are not committed if you do not enjoy it.

OneHazelBird · Today 14:59

I don’t want social services to house him though because that’ll make him feel like i’m giving up on him but maybe he’d be better off far away from me

They won’t house him if you don’t want him to move out.

They just help with whatever he needs help with.

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 15:10

Lastradaleia · Today 14:32

I don’t work anymore no, since getting help for my mh i had been thinking of getting a job even pt to start with but then I don’t want to leave ds in the house doing god knows what especially as he’d probably invite god knows who over. I have no plans this weekend the weather is awful and I didn’t manage to make good friends in our area since moving, I had some who I used to work with but they drifted away so I don’t have anyone to do anything with here apart from ds but he doesn’t want to do anything

Moving isn’t an option though as our previous area was in London and more expensive that i struggled to afford it after i split with my ex even when i was working

I wonder if this is a factor.

I realise it’s not a simple issue to fix but if he perceives you to be drifting and unmoored with few goals in your life he is going to see his own future in these terms.

I appreciate finding work isn’t easy when you have been out of it for a long time. But someone else mentioned volunteering.

I think its really important for children and young people to perceive that their role models have some goals and drive in their lives.

Lastradaleia · Today 15:36

Volunteering together could be a good idea but I don’t know if he would agree as he doesn’t even agree to little stuff like watching a film together

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Italiangreyhound · Today 15:39

OP you have trued so much, you have done lots for him. Yiu approached police abd GP for help. You have not failed him. The system has but it is not too late.

Thepeopleversuswork

Maybe the OP not working is a factor influencing how she feels but i doubt her son is taking his cue from her. Some kids have mums who don't work. My husband works full- time and I work part-time and my son dropped out for three years. My friend's kid dropped out and she had also worked. So, I don't think the OP's lack of a job is a factor.

Post covid a lot of kids just realised they did not need to go to school.

OneNewEagle · Today 15:43

Lastradaleia · Today 14:32

I don’t work anymore no, since getting help for my mh i had been thinking of getting a job even pt to start with but then I don’t want to leave ds in the house doing god knows what especially as he’d probably invite god knows who over. I have no plans this weekend the weather is awful and I didn’t manage to make good friends in our area since moving, I had some who I used to work with but they drifted away so I don’t have anyone to do anything with here apart from ds but he doesn’t want to do anything

Moving isn’t an option though as our previous area was in London and more expensive that i struggled to afford it after i split with my ex even when i was working

I can’t help with your son OP. But I wanted to send you my love you have had a tough tough time. I think focussing on looking after yourself will help and could also help your DS long term.

I’ve had a traumatic past and after a huge nervous breakdown about 8 years ago I was diagnosed with agoraphobia and CPTSD among other things. So I knoe hoe very very very hard it is. How overwhelmed you will feel. How anxious about literally nothing ,I can end up shaking in bed from what the old me should regard as nothing whatsoever. it’s a MH illness that creeps in give you horrific symptoms as well as worry and doesn’t ever leave properly. That’s how I feel anyway.

start with small lovely self care steps. Did you have talking therapy? I had ten sessions on the NHS to try to help me manage my agoraphobia. So I assume you had similar.

I’m going through a stressful period of my life and it’s all coming back again currently. It’s stormy here too so hunker down for the weekend. Can you manage the TV or radio at thr moment, I’m ok with the radio for a bit as not so full on. So this weekend I’m pottering at home, will have radio on, done a few chores, will try to cook a couple of wholesome meals, and will attempt a jigsaw or a book. But it’s ok if you can’t do any of that and just sit and rest. It’s exhausting.

no help to you but I went out for a car ride today as a passenger, only saw sone people in a car park whilst the driver dashed in a shop for something but it’s the first time I’ve left the house in six weeks. Sending you love and a hug x

OneHazelBird · Today 15:43

OP is he year 11 or 12?

If he’s year 12 why did he not start college or apprenticeship in September?

I don’t agree with you pulling him out of school but that’s done, however he still needs to go to college/do an apprenticeship.

He can’t just do nothing with his life.
These are the best years of his life.

Is he overweight/skinny?
If he’s not too self conscious then the gym or a sport would be good for him as he sounds like he struggles with his masculinity.

You also need to be a good role and do activities yourself.
If he sees you barely leaving the home, not working, not having friends etc then of course he’s going to do the same.

You’re also an individual and need to be enjoying life.
It’s so sad that both of you seem to have no aspirations.

OneNewEagle · Today 15:45

Ps I was a lone parent too after significant trauma (this led to my MH decline). The other parent had parental rights revoked so I can fully relate. You have been the two parents whilst the other did absolutely nothing. My DC is in their 30s now I still get the moods and resentment, it’s aimed at us as there’s no one else to blame.

Lastradaleia · Today 15:56

OneHazelBird · Today 15:43

OP is he year 11 or 12?

If he’s year 12 why did he not start college or apprenticeship in September?

I don’t agree with you pulling him out of school but that’s done, however he still needs to go to college/do an apprenticeship.

He can’t just do nothing with his life.
These are the best years of his life.

Is he overweight/skinny?
If he’s not too self conscious then the gym or a sport would be good for him as he sounds like he struggles with his masculinity.

You also need to be a good role and do activities yourself.
If he sees you barely leaving the home, not working, not having friends etc then of course he’s going to do the same.

You’re also an individual and need to be enjoying life.
It’s so sad that both of you seem to have no aspirations.

He should’ve started college in september but he wouldn’t come with me to look at open days and even if i got him signed up he wouldn’t have gone and they would’ve just removed him off the course and it was taking a place someone else who genuinely wanted it could’ve had. He also showed no interest in any of the courses and he would’ve needed a level 1 which go quite fast.

He’s not overweight, when talking to me he said when he was bullied he was fat but even then he wasn’t tbh, he was slightly chubby but then he started puberty and got taller and is now skinny but he’s never shown interest in sports or the gym which i think would’ve helped.

The only clubs he really did that he was interested in were cubs when he was really young and musical theatre.

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Nowforthe2nd · Today 16:00

Lastradaleia · Today 15:56

He should’ve started college in september but he wouldn’t come with me to look at open days and even if i got him signed up he wouldn’t have gone and they would’ve just removed him off the course and it was taking a place someone else who genuinely wanted it could’ve had. He also showed no interest in any of the courses and he would’ve needed a level 1 which go quite fast.

He’s not overweight, when talking to me he said when he was bullied he was fat but even then he wasn’t tbh, he was slightly chubby but then he started puberty and got taller and is now skinny but he’s never shown interest in sports or the gym which i think would’ve helped.

The only clubs he really did that he was interested in were cubs when he was really young and musical theatre.

He is uneducated. Possibly with very. Possibly low literacy level. What did you envisage him doing at college?

Lastradaleia · Today 16:03

Nowforthe2nd · Today 16:00

He is uneducated. Possibly with very. Possibly low literacy level. What did you envisage him doing at college?

A level one course and so he could possibly do functional skills which are easier than gcses just so he could get some qualifications and better friends

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Italiangreyhound · Today 16:22

My son does GCSE maths and English, life skills and some careers input. The course is designed for those who have been out of education.

OP why not see if anything like that it is on offer. It may not be too late.

He might be willing.

OneHazelBird · Today 16:24

He should’ve started college in september but he wouldn’t come with me to look at open days and even if i got him signed up he wouldn’t have gone

Its so difficult as you can’t physically drag him to it but right now he’s acting like it’s either college or nothing but the nothing shouldn’t be an option.

I gave my DC an option - either education (college or apprenticeship) or full time work.
I encouraged education as the easier option.

The biggest challenge with kids not going to school is that they then think college and work etc is a choice when it’s not.

You need to start giving him the choice of work vs college and not allowing nothing to be an option.
This is where something like social services may be able to help as if he had a youth worker they might help to encourage him.

Franpie · Today 18:21

The problem is that you’re now trying to do a full u-turn on your parenting which means it’s inconsistent and he won’t trust you.

You’ve spent nearly half of his educational life telling him he doesn’t need to go to school, work hard, get an education and plan for his future. To suddenly switch up and expect him to trust what you’re now saying is extremely difficult.

Have you tried saying to him that you’ve messed up? That you made some bad decisions along the way but that you’re sorry, you’re ready and willing to face up to that and to help him try and find a path forward?

Sometimes kids need to hear us say that we’ve fucked up.

Postdinnerone · Today 19:43

What A level did you imagine him being able to do @Lastradaleia ?

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