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DS has been uninvited from a sleepover and I don’t know what to tell him

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TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:19

DS is in year 6, 10 but turns 11 next month. One of his closest friends is having a sleepover next weekend for her birthday and invited him along with 5 other girls. He’s the only boy.

He’s always got on better with girls really. He’s got a couple of boy mates but theyre more school friends if that makes sense, whereas the girls are who he actually wants to spend time with outside school. He’s been friends with this particular girl since year 3 and they’ve been to each others houses loads of times, so it’s not like they’ve only just started hanging about together.

Anyway he was invited last week. They were going to have pizza, watch films and all sleep in the living room.

Yesterday the mum messaged me saying she’d had a conversation with one of the other mums who wasnt comfortable with her DD staying overnight if a boy was there. Apparently she’d not really thought about it before but had decided she was going to make it girls only after all. So DS is no longer invited.

I do understand that its her house and she can have whatever rules she wants but I feel really uncomfortable about the way its happened. He was invited and now he’s been dropped because another parent has an issue with it. The birthday girl apparently still wants him there and they’ve not fallen out or anything.

I havent told him yet because I honestly dont know how to explain it without him thinking she’s changed her mind about being his friend. He doesnt get invited to that many sleepovers and he was genuinely excited about this one.

Part of me thinks I should just say the plans have changed and leave it at that, but then he’s going to find out at school when the other girls talk about it.

Would you tell him the actual reason or keep it vague? And would you say anything to the mum or just leave it now?

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UsernameShmusername2024 · Today 20:14

We had the exact same situation although it happened in yr4. I explained to my son that his friend had changed her mind and decided to only invite girls and he was disappointed but got over it and they're still friends. He's now in yr6 and I'd find it easier to explain at this age and can see that parents would feel uncomfortable about this whereas I thought a mixed sex sleepover in yr4 would've been fine, but accepted that other parents disagreed.

I would explain it to him honestly otherwise he could end up thinking that he's been uninvited because of something he's done.

With my son, it did prompt me to actively help him become better friends with some of the boys because I realised the girls he'd always played with were growing up faster than he was and he'd ended up a bit on the outside of both boy and girl friendship groups. There was a school residential that year and he really struggled to choose other boys to share a room with. Luckily he had an amazing teacher that year who really helped him form some other friendships and now has a great group of mainly boy mates with some girls too.

Somedayitwillclick · Today 20:16

Excited101 · Today 19:26

We had mixed sex sleepovers through secondary with 2 male friends. We didn’t know it at the time (our parents possibly did!) but one turned out to be gay and the other asexual. Not all boys are any sort of a threat.

However, without knowing your lad, it’s impossible to say how he comes across to the other parents. Such a shame that he has to miss out just due to his sex/gender.

It’s not about the threat! It’s about body autonomy and possible embarrassing situations. A flooding period for the girls for example or for my son who this age sometime of a morning he’s been waking up and in his words, his Willy is sticking up!!

he would be traumatised if that happened in front of his female friends

Granville82 · Today 20:22

StepAwayFromGoogling · Today 16:16

It's not 'sad', it's assuming a 10 year old boy is likely to be an abuser of 10 year old girls. The underlying assumptions here are horrible.

All men are potential abusers of all women. That's why we have safeguarding and single sex environments. And that's also why women and girls - and men and boys - have natural and appropriate feelings of acting and behaving differently around each other, whether we undress in front of each other, allow ourselves the vulnerability of sleeping in each others' company and so on. This kicks in prior to 10 years old.

FlowerBin · Today 20:23

What is the issue with being truthful?

ThatRedFish · Today 20:31

Honestly, I’m surprised he was ever invited! And that you ever accepted! Both incredibly bonkers. Some of those girls will have started puberty, possibly periods etc. Are you his mother or father? Surely if mother you would understand why the girls would not want him there!! It won’t have just been one mum with concerns.

This is a good opportunity to teach him about respecting girls boundaries and their spaces and their needs are not personal. Raise a young man who can respect women, not one who feels wronged by not being able to cross their boundaries.

Aligirlbear · Today 20:54

It’s difficult but I suspect the sleepover invites for your DS will slow / stop in the near future anyway with this group as they hit puberty and get more interested in make up / spa experiences. While upsetting for your DS you need to tell him the truth, as they are getting older it’s not appropriate for him to be sleeping in the same room as the girls , sad though it is that’s to protect him as much as the girls and in reality I don’t think him going for the pizza and film and having to come home will necessarily be better than him not going at all.

Completeme · Today 21:22

Dutch1e · Today 19:28

I'd be really sad about this too. And in the host parent's position there is no way I would uninvite a guest who has done nothing wrong. I'd certainly gently explain to the upset parent that they are welcome to decline the invitation on their daughter's behalf but excluding a lad from his friends at this late date is horrifyingly rude, and sends a really shitty message.

Aren't we trying to raise boys to see girls as friends?

Rude? Girls and women’s right to feel safe when they sleep is rude if they don’t want to include boys/ men. Ffs. We can guess the child you have.

ByRoseBiscuit · Today 21:26

Mapletree1985 · Today 16:32

This is an easy one. At least he hasn't been uninvited because his friend group turned against him. Tell him exactly what happened. One mum of one girl was uncomfortable having a boy there. You can then have a discussion about what this means and how he feels about it.

This. I don’t get why he wouldn’t understand this at his age, he’s not 5. I don’t actually think it’s unreasonable to be uncomfortable with a mixed sleepover at this age either.

Completeme · Today 21:26

Dutch1e · Today 19:53

When the next party is being planned and the guestlist is being finalised, then boys can be left off the list, or the uncomfortable parents can have more warning, and time to either decline or make different arrangements like collecting their daughter earlier.

I'm sorry if that part wasn't clear in my earlier comment.

So, you’re saying.

If I invite a man to sleep in my room, then decide I don’t want that - it’s rude to tell them I don’t want them there?

if I invite a man in to my bed, then think, ‘actually no’ then I should just let them so as not to be rude?

if I invite a man to have sex with me, then change my mind…I should do it anyway so as not to be rude?

I really hope you don’t have a son

saraclara · Today 21:51

Whatafustercluck · Today 19:38

"Ds, girls mature earlier than boys and their bodies start changing sooner, which means they may become uncomfortable sharing their spaces with boys. One of the girls feels like this and we need to respect that. I'm sorry you're disappointed, but it would be a shame for you to miss out altogether. You can still go for pizza and films if you like. Let me know what you'd like to do."

Dd is 9 and has started to develop breasts. She wouldn't be comfortable attending a sleepover that included a boy, but is more than happy to play together/ eat together/ watch films together. Both her father and brother respect her right to privacy.

No you don't blame one of his friends. That would make him feel even worse. Anyway, all we know is that the mum didn't like the idea. The girl might be fine with it

Whatafustercluck · Today 21:56

saraclara · Today 21:51

No you don't blame one of his friends. That would make him feel even worse. Anyway, all we know is that the mum didn't like the idea. The girl might be fine with it

Or, as is more likely the case, the girl spoke to her mum about feeling uncomfortable about it, and the mum agreed to raise it on her behalf. As any good mum would do. Also, it's not 'blame' to state a fact that girls develop earlier and are quite justified in asking for privacy as a result.

Strawberries86 · Today 22:08

I think telling young girls that they can’t change their minds about sharing a bedroom with a male is a fabulous message.

We really don’t hammer it home enough if I’m honest.

Londonrach1 · Today 22:12

I have a year 6 girl. At that age some of the girls are beginning to charge so I totally understand why no mixed sex sleepover. I'm slightly shocked the birthday parents thought it was ok to have mixed sex sleepover anyway . Just tell your son the truth that it's just girls for the sleepover. Why can't your son go for the pizza and film but of the party.

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