FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

If you had a brain cell you'd be dangerous.

Please do. I got my (EU) citizenship when Trump got in the first time - I suddenly realised that it would be very sensible to have the same nationality as my children.

I wish I had turned out to be overreacting 😭

Not in the cases I've seen (NHS radiography department).

NHS thinks it's getting a bargain, a 'highly skilled' applicant with years of experience.

In practice they seem to know less than the new students coming in to learn. They are happy to cut corners and ignore safety rules.

Anyone who raises concerns has the 'racist are ye father?' eyebrows raused at them.

Not at all. He can say "Well the vast majority of people coming to work in this industry are from abroad, I know that as I do the recruiting" without breaking any rules. Its not something that he discusses on a regular basis, it was a conversation after seeing a news story a long the lines of this thread. It was more about him believing that its because NEETs dont want to do the work as it is too hard or beneath them.

He wasnt naming names or even close!

It really is! Skilled workers are often not getting much more than minimum wage. I'm H&S by trade and it's horrendous, they want to work long hours, travel around the country and be often away from home and for about £30-£35! Many jobs now are only for 6 or 12 months.
I saw a junior HSE officer job the other day - working pattern 10 days on and 4 off, working hours 12 noon to 10pm! That's a crap way to live and forget sharing your life with anyone because you'll never see them hardly.

I would really like some of the right wing frothers to tackle the root causes of why so many British nationals feel entry level and/or practical hard work is beneath them. Get them working and contributing and THEN talk to me about foreign nationals.

Foreign nationals aren’t the problem. Domestic laziness and entitlement concerns me much more.

I was just about to type this, they are right wing and will present data to support the right wing agenda

Thats very true of seasonal farming work where frankly there are not enough long term jobs in the area to sustain a permanent population of "local" people. And it doesn't make sense for an unemployed person in London to travel to Somerset for 2 months to earn less than the cost of his London flat. Whilst it does make sense as a job for young people travelling (lots of British people used to do grape picking etc in France at one point) or people from lower wage countries where the amount they can earn in 2 months of working is very worth it compared to the cost of living etc back home.

There will always be a need for those workers. It's nothing to do with local people being too picky.

However like you say there is also a problem with lack of investment in training young people etc. A lot of good could be done there but it can't happen overnight. I really hope Andy Burnham properly addresses this (he did mention apprenticeships etc hopefully it's not just lip service). But it it is taken seriously you wouldn't see measurable effects for a while. So fingers crossed🤞

Unfortunately too many people genuinely spout that crap and think like that! I'm honestly grateful for people of heritage because all the specialists that helped me to finally get a long winded fibromyalgia diagnosis this year were men and women of heritage, we'd be lost without them.

My DS works in tech for a startup. Of the 50 employees, only he and one other are UK born. The rest are here from all over the world on work permits.

They are all well paid. My view is UK students are so busy doing degrees in 'something they love', they end up unemployable.

Type "does mumsnet have political influence" into any search engine and you'll be inundated with data and examples.

Have a read of this.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/11/how-mumsnet-transformed-britain/

"How Mumsnet transformed Britain
"‘It taps into the wisdom of eight million women’: How Mumsnet transformed Britain
It started life as an online support forum for parents. Now, 25 years later, it’s become a hugely influential political forum"

Politicians from Tony Blair to David Cameron and Boris Johnson have all used Mumsnet as a way to reach voters.

What are you suggesting we do @OpenScroller in terms of your local jobs for local people project.
You seem to be all problems and no solutions.....
I hope your solutions are as good as Reform's, it is the leadership of that party and their five star ideas that really inspire 🤔🌟

And what pray tell, is the answer?

This is rather simplified. The overseas worker also has to apply for a visa even when the employer is a sponsor. Not an easy process and often a lengthy one.

No young brit wants a job as bus driver, cleaner or in care. Jyst saying.

Some people such as the OP don't have any capacity for critical thought.

Yes

Well, it has to be a short version. But largely, no, not that complicated. Employers would shout if it was.

The majority of UK students take degrees in applied fields.
87% of UK graduates are in work within 15 months of completing their degree.

The article uses genuine statistics but presents them in a way that creates a misleading impression.

Misleading headline: Migrants didn't necessarily take 80% of newly created jobs. They accounted for 80% of the net increase in payroll employment. That's a very different measure.

No evidence of displacement: There's no evidence that the jobs filled by migrants would otherwise have gone to British workers.

Misleading use of "migrants": The figures are based on recorded nationality, not immigration status. Some workers classified as foreign nationals may have lived in Britain for decades or since childhood.

Unproven link to benefits: The article implies that immigration has caused more British people to claim benefits, but provides no evidence of causation. Illness, disability and other barriers to employment aren't adequately considered.

Ignores workforce shortages: Almost 30% of the increase in non-EU employment was in health and social care, sectors that have struggled to recruit sufficient staff.

Missing context: Despite the headline, British nationals still account for approximately 80% of all PAYE employments.

In short: The article takes two genuine trends — increasing migrant employment and rising benefit claims — and implies that one is responsible for the other, without demonstrating any causal connection. It's a selective presentation of statistics that risks encouraging readers to blame migrants for much more complex economic and social problems.

That article's not data though - it's opinion. I'm not going to debate with you anymore because it's a waste of my time and I would rather spend that out canvassing, lobbying and doing other things to effect real, meaningful change both politically and in my community. Posting endlessly on MN achieves nothing.

That is a long time. I would have wanted all UK graduates to be in a job before 15 months has arrived.

I don’t know what the cleaner/carer bit has to do with it? And the bus driver thing was for people who are ALREADY bus drivers. Just saying.

(You would need Dutch in order to work as a carer anyway)

Vote Leave did we? 🤣

Most people can work in care. But it's too hard, not 9-5 hours and too low paid for most British young people.

But not necessarily work they needed a degree for