FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

Amazon warehouses are horrible places to work and instead of "creating jobs" as is claimed they rather replaced a lot of decentish jobs (regular warehouse worker, back of house shop worker, front of house shop worker) with one type of very low pay high stress job. And also decimated the high street at the same time. I do think there is a conversation to be had there. However, that's about how far massive multinationals should be allowed to "disrupt" economies and jobs with 0 repurcussuons in the future. Not an immigrant thing really.

There are some exemptions in terms of cultural recruitment. But otherwise discrimination is against the law.

Well any mention of the 'right' has people literally frothing. Let's rephrase that to a forum largely full of Labour supporters.

My apologies, I didnt make clear that they were not recruited from abroad. All the applicants have the right to work and live in the UK but are immigrants.

Do some reading perhaps?

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

Or maybe in many cases they’re happy to mop up the jobs many here on benefits don’t fancy?

Thankyou for clarifying. Although many will actually be British Citizens I suspect.

The Centre for Social Justice that has published this is a centre right think tank. Not an unbiased, credible source. Their funding is unclear and lacks transparency -

“In September 2023, the funding transparency website Who Funds You? gave the CSJ a D grade, the second-lowest transparency rating (rating goes from A to E).[22]”

“research from organizations like the Migration Observatory and Full Fact shows that immigrants do not generally "take" jobs from UK-born workers in a zero-sum way.”

Lets not let biased, unchecked information get us sucked into the dog whistle politics of wealthy and powerful people who would rather we blame immigrants than look too closely at the impact of the powerful and wealthy on social inequality and deteriorating standards of living.

Literally? OK then.

Do you really believe nobody tries to influence opinion via social media?

If so, whey did Reform UK spend £380,000 on social media adverts between August 1 and September 25, 2026?

If you were going to spend money trying to win votes would you spend it all on people who already vote for you or people who don't?

Not according to SonIL, and he should know as he had to process their paperwork which, as I am sure you know, includes their proof of right to work.

Yes I'm sure that's true. I was just pointing out that the "Ha ha these can't both be true!" sneer doesn't actually hold up to examination. They can both be true.
Because they don't have to refer to the same individuals.

Why didn’t British workers apply for the jobs. Employers want the best regardless of where the candidates were born.

S.

Oh of course - it’s completely against the law.

But we all know many people still do it, especially on the basis of sex and nationality/ethnicity.

Or the lowest paid?

Also, not everyone can be a carer. The Philippines is interesting because they seem to have a whole cultural thing of nursing and care work being a really noble/valued profession to go into. "Nurses from the Philippines" is a stereotype the world over. I know that's partly because the wages you can earn overseas nursing is more but I don't think it's just that because it isn't just the Phillipines where that is the case. It would be interesting to look at how to make.caring and nursing more culturally valued here. It's. It just about the pay, though I think that can matter as well. The problem is the attitude of "make the unemployed NEETs just do caring" bandied about isnt exactly going to help with that. It suggests it is something the "feckless layabouts" should be doing as punishment.

Employers who recruit an overseas worker do not have to advertise it to prove they could not find someone already here to do it.

As a lot of the roles are care work, according to the post, then a lot of those maybe new roles, as the need for care roles is increasing a the population ages.

Of course, those are the kind of roles the Brits don’t want to do. My friends dad had 3 carers barcode he passed away recently, none were British.

My original post referred specifically to MN.

"Mumsnet does not have a single, fixed political stance, though it has traditionally leaned center-left or "woolly liberal" among its core demographic"

Do we know the salaries for these jobs?

Does this include the thousands of seasonal workers picking fruit and veg?

heard This discussed on more or less and was completely discredited.

Because they are already trained so employers don't have to bother spending time training up 18 year olds, because someone else in another country has done that. And all the reasons the person I quoted stated. That if your visa is dependent on your job employers can get you to do what they like. There are also places who basically applied to be sponsors as part of visa scams. We have a hugely inefficient system for work ( and student) visas where people know full well they can just do what they like and the chances of them being caught are minimal.