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Are we being unreasonable not to buy my sister's stepdaughter a car and insurance

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SheLovesThat · Yesterday 18:20

My sister has 2 sons who have both passed their driving test in the last few years. My mum bought them both a car each and I paid for their first year of insurance.

My sister also has a step daughter who has just passed her test. My mum and I both sent a congratulations card with £100 in but my sister was surprised that we are not doing the same for her step daughter as we have with her sons and is now giving us the silent treatment.

The girl has been my sisters step daughter since she was 7and is now 18. She lives with her mum half of the time so we don’t see as much of her. My sister said we should treat her the same.

My mum spent about £12000 each on the cars. The insurance has cost me about £2000 each so not small amounts of money and I’m shocked my sister would expect the same for her step daughter.

Are we being unreasonable?

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InterIgnis · Yesterday 20:06

independentfriend · Yesterday 20:01

Hindsight says you should have told your sister you weren't in a positive to do the same for her stepdaughter long before your sister and the young woman might have been planning on you doing the same for her.

Does the 18 year old need a car at the minute? If she's say at college with good public transport she maybe doesn't need one right now. (Or the ongoing maintenance/petrol/insurance costs) Are your nephews going to end up helping her out financially to buy one? Can you offer her a loan?

The onus was on the sister to ask, rather than to assume that OP and her mother would do the same for her stepchild.

Why would her nephews and/or OP be involved in that at all? That’s for her parents and possibly also her stepmother to figure out.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:08

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 20:04

But you're not thinking about the girl. For over 10 years she's been thinking that you ARE treating her the same, because you said yourself that you've been keeping the university fees secret from her. So it must have come as an awful blow when she compared what she got from you compared to what her step-brothers got. With no warning. I feel sorry for her.

Just to be clear, the step daughter has not mentioned any unhappiness. She went out with my daughter and friends last night and was at our house for hours getting ready before they went. She was her happy normal self with our kids and us. This is only coming from my sister. Her step daughter is lovely and I don’t think there was any expectation from her at all.

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Ponoka7 · Yesterday 20:09

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:49

Birthdays and Christmas, we buy them all something for roughly the same amount.

Until the boys went to uni, my mum and I also put money away for them as part of their birthday and Christmas which was to pay for uni. We didn’t do that for my sisters step daughter but she wasn’t aware. She had the same value of gifts to open.

No, my sister has never behaved like this before but this is the first big thing to come up. My mum thinks she’ll have been expecting the money for uni next year for her step daughter and it’s probably dawned on her that won’t be happening.

You haven't answered if your Mum is wealthy. Seeing as she could afford private school for two, she is being mean. You and her are two seperate people. I can see why your sister is upset at your Mum. You haven't answered if she calls your Mum, Nan. Your Mum needs to talk to your sister. But that's nothing to do with you. You seem to see you and your Mum as one.

Theunamedcat · Yesterday 20:11

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

Relevance?

Why would you spent 14k on a child that can vanish overnight?

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:14

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 20:09

You haven't answered if your Mum is wealthy. Seeing as she could afford private school for two, she is being mean. You and her are two seperate people. I can see why your sister is upset at your Mum. You haven't answered if she calls your Mum, Nan. Your Mum needs to talk to your sister. But that's nothing to do with you. You seem to see you and your Mum as one.

My mum used to be wealthier 10+ years ago but she had to give up work due to illness. She isn’t poor though. Private school was only for primary as the boys went to a grammar school so no fees.

She calls my mum by her first name, not nan.she has her own GPs.

i don’t see us as one, but my sister is giving us both the silent treatment.

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FoldItIn · Yesterday 20:17

pinkpedi · Yesterday 20:00

I think you've been really mean and considering this girl has been a part of your family for most of her life I can't imagine how shit this has made her feel. Talk about making it clear she's an outsider.
Does her father/grandparents contribute to her living expenses equally? I'd understand more if they did but if you are her sole family that's awful.
Either way, £100 is extremely tight. I'm not surprised your sister is upset. You should have considered her right from the beginning when you did this to the first sibling.
I bet Christmas and birthdays are awful for her too.

Normal people, people who raise children in a blended family like they are children in a blended family, will raise kids who don't feel any of the dramatic nonsense you have typed.
None of the frantic, all children are the exact same bullshit. They aren't.
The stepdaughter has her own family on her mother's side. Why on earth are you talking about her father's side? He lives with the op's sister!

If she has been raised in an emotionally stable household,she will not have a problem with this.

It is always entitled adults that cause problems, not the kids.

chirrupybird · Yesterday 20:20

rubyslippers · Yesterday 18:23

Why are you doing it for the nephews?! Are you all very well off
anwyay yes, I’d be really surprised that all the children aren’t treated the same (in big and small ways)
how must the SD feel?
step families : blended families are full of pitfalls such as this where expectations are not matched

Step daughter has another parent who should step up for at least half.

Yogabearmous · Yesterday 20:21

InterIgnis · Yesterday 19:24

You’ve literally spent thousands on your nephews/grandchildren, and given a generous gift to your sister’s stepchild, and yet you’re still being called ‘tight’. Laughable.

Your sister is entirely in the wrong here. She had no business making the assumptions she did. Let her sulk. YANBU.

This.
the entitlement is outrageous. Perhaps the step daughter’s other extended family on her mother’s side could buy her a car. It’s not for you to fund this. What a cheek.

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

Fasthorses · Yesterday 20:23

rubyslippers · Yesterday 18:23

Why are you doing it for the nephews?! Are you all very well off
anwyay yes, I’d be really surprised that all the children aren’t treated the same (in big and small ways)
how must the SD feel?
step families : blended families are full of pitfalls such as this where expectations are not matched

Surely the stepdaughter has her own grandparents /extended family?

I hate this narrative we must all just accept step relatives and treat them the same as blood relatives - they simply aren't the same and people can't be forced to feel the same for them.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:26

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

😂 I’ll send them all down pit at once.

It’s not unusual at all. Babies don’t drive cars, silly.

All of the kids have had part time jobs from 17/18 whilst studying. My oldest child and nephews are now in full time work paying for themselves.

You sound very silly.

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chirrupybird · Yesterday 20:28

shuggles · Yesterday 20:22

@SheLovesThat It is very unusual, strange, and weird for mummy and daddy to buy a car for their child. It infantilises young adults and makes them look like babies.

The normal thing that normal teens and young adults do is use their part time jobs to save up for a car.

Parents can do what they want, if the child needs a car to get to their job why not get them one if you can afford to? Not a hugely expensive car but a good roadworthy one. If they want better then they can buy their own.

How do you ever save up enough money to buy a car on a minimum wage part time job as a teenager?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 20:31

These messy situations seem to come up a lot on Mn, and they are so predictable!

I think it would have been best to say something when you made the decision only to do this for the boys.

It’s cheeky of them to expect anything but of course far too late for them to start saving for DSD now

ExcitableCat · Yesterday 20:32

Cant imagine why you wouldn’t treat all your sisters kids the same. She may well be a step child but has been in the family a long time. Youre just creating division. Poor kid 🤦🏻‍♀️

familyissues12345 · Yesterday 20:32

SixAndJuliet · Yesterday 18:57

This is true. You and your mum started this only 3-4 years ago knowing that SD would be missing out. £14k value to each of them, £100 to her. Ok she’s not blood but that’s putting her right in her place.

Yeah personally these are the issues to me too.

Theres a huge difference between several thousand and full insurance and £100.

I can understand no one wishing, or maybe being able to afford to totally replicate what the boys were given, but for it to be so different is a bit sad

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:36

familyissues12345 · Yesterday 20:32

Yeah personally these are the issues to me too.

Theres a huge difference between several thousand and full insurance and £100.

I can understand no one wishing, or maybe being able to afford to totally replicate what the boys were given, but for it to be so different is a bit sad

We have also given her money at the start of September for her 18th.

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nomas · Yesterday 20:37

Leopardspota · Yesterday 19:22

Ive said this so many time… I was this girl once, and my step dad’s sister and her husband (my ‘aunt and uncle’) treated me and my sister the exact same and as step dad’s daughters. I had my own dad and other family too. I messaged my uncle recently to thank him for being so wonderful to us, they always made me feels so welcome and loved. He replied saying of course they treated us the same, we were great kids etc etc.

I think you aren’t obliged to do anything you don’t want to. But the feeling of rejection or love and acceptance will stay with your step niece. It’s not being grabby and entitled, it’s much more than that.

If the niece is expecting a £12k car and £2k insurance, then yes, she has been made grabby by her dad and step-mum.

Whyherewego · Yesterday 20:38

I agree with PP that the disparity is a bit stark.
A conversation with your sister would have been good in advance to say that you are not proposing to buy a car / insurance because dsd has a wider family who can be contributing to her car fund. But you would like to contribute and I'd have said a generous sum, a fair bit more than £100. Maybe £500 or something.

Widoeeyes · Yesterday 20:41

Some people on here are so bloody entitled. The girl is a step niece / step grandchild. I wouldn’t want to be obliged to the kid of every person someone in my family shacked up with

LondonLass2026 · Yesterday 20:42

Why did you even do it for the boys? That's so odd. If you did it for them, you should do it for the girl. Stepdaughter or not.

Widoeeyes · Yesterday 20:46

The thing is. She actually isn’t part of their family. She has her own

NotrialNodeal · Yesterday 20:50

caringcarer · Yesterday 19:34

I agree it's not really reasonable for your Mum to pay £12k for a car or you £2k for insurance but £100 each is a bit mean if this girl has been in your life for 12 years that's most of her life. I would have at least given £250 or in your Mum's case £1k.

And the OP would still get the silent treatment as its 'not the same'.

Ponoka7 · Yesterday 20:52

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:36

We have also given her money at the start of September for her 18th.

There's that, 'we' again. Three/four years ago your Mum had enough money to buy two cars. As said, it's a huge drop to just £100.

Femalemachinest · Yesterday 20:53

I dont think you did anything wrong. I have a "step mum" and "step brothers". They have both parents, me and my brother only have 1. She used to compare us to her sons when my dad bought us things but they had 2 parents. "My son's wouldnt get that", they would just split from both parents so she wouldnt see it, where as she saw everything we got.

As your sisters step daughter has her mums side of the family in her life I think the £100 is a nice gesture.

Somethinggg · Yesterday 20:54

nomas · Yesterday 20:37

If the niece is expecting a £12k car and £2k insurance, then yes, she has been made grabby by her dad and step-mum.

Being fair to the niece, OP says there's no indication DN does have any expectations. The entitlement is from Dsis. Wonder if she's told her partner DSD is line for a free car too?