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Are we being unreasonable not to buy my sister's stepdaughter a car and insurance

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SheLovesThat · Yesterday 18:20

My sister has 2 sons who have both passed their driving test in the last few years. My mum bought them both a car each and I paid for their first year of insurance.

My sister also has a step daughter who has just passed her test. My mum and I both sent a congratulations card with £100 in but my sister was surprised that we are not doing the same for her step daughter as we have with her sons and is now giving us the silent treatment.

The girl has been my sisters step daughter since she was 7and is now 18. She lives with her mum half of the time so we don’t see as much of her. My sister said we should treat her the same.

My mum spent about £12000 each on the cars. The insurance has cost me about £2000 each so not small amounts of money and I’m shocked my sister would expect the same for her step daughter.

Are we being unreasonable?

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pinkyredrose · Yesterday 19:39

Leopardspota · Yesterday 19:33

I wish there was an eye roll button. No one is obliged to do anything… my point is that is the kind and loving thing to do is to treat step-children the same.

🙄

Here you go.

Holeymoley28 · Yesterday 19:40

Boreded · Yesterday 19:30

You’ll be told you aren’t being unreasonable…they don’t see step kids as real people with feelings on here, but I think if you can reasonably afford it and it isn’t going to impact your finances then you should do it.

The step daughter is family, and by not treating her like her siblings (because they are siblings even if they don’t have the same mum), you are drawing a line in the sand with her. It could change your whole family dynamics for the sake of refusing to see her as a real neice

As a step child with half and step siblings. I disagree.

A good parent will raise their child to understand the different family dynamics a well rounded child will understand that they have family members the others don’t and in reverse. They will all understand and times their sibling (half step other) will get things they don’t from their own family.

A bad parent raised their child to expect and feel entitled too other peoples families wealth and time rather than be happy that they give more than often their own family does. That’s a failure on the parent not the child or the “step” family.

edit to add

its always then the step family is well off in comparison. Funny enough as well. Nobody is arguing over a £39 vs £45 Lego but when a step family can afford more suddenly everyone’s gold digging and grabby.

babyproblems · Yesterday 19:40

I think the children should be treated the same. The SD will remember she isn’t considered ‘part of your family’

FreebieWallopFridge · Yesterday 19:41

I suspect your sister has been telling her stepdaughter that she’ll be getting a car and now is embarrassed.

I agree with you and your mum.

CormorantIsland · Yesterday 19:44

the precedent your mum set was a grandchild being bought a car by the grandmother. So following this pattern, the step grandchild in question should have been bought a car by her biological grandmother. And the insurance paid for by her biological aunt,

SaySomethingMan · Yesterday 19:44

Your brother. SD’s mum and dad should pitch in and get her what they think she should have. To put that expectation on you and your mum is unreasonable

Slsk21 · Yesterday 19:45

Im a step child, am now in my late 30s but have had the same step mum since I was 4. We are really close, saw her today actually after she drove 1.5 hours to visit me. Same step dad since I was 10. Again we are very close. Love them both a lot. Am also very close to step siblings as in still have sleep overs at my step sisters house as adults and choose to go on holiday together frequently. Their children call me aunty. See them as my siblings. Would never expect to be treated the same as my step siblings by their extended family as I have my own extended family on both sides. Would always receive token gifts and felt happy to be accepted and thought about by step parents wider family, never expected it though. As an adult I still receive gifts and give gifts to step parents extended family but not expensive gifts, more little tokens of thought and love.

Would maybe feel different if i lived full time with one parent and a step parent and didn't have another parent / atep parent or family i was part of...however I will never know, and doesnt seem to be OPs wider family situation either.

Sherararara · Yesterday 19:45

What a bizarre family setup

ThisUmberSwan · Yesterday 19:45

No you’re not being unreasonable your sisters step child has a whole other family that can help with a car and insurance. Stick to your guns and don’t change your mind. It’s a lot of money also.

Purplecatshopaholic · Yesterday 19:47

While the step-daughter may be, and should be, treated the same by your sister, the relationship is different with you and your mum. In my eyes anyway. I wouldn’t be buying my sister’s step-daughter a car either, if she splits with the dad you’ll likely never see her again. Unless you are particularly close to her, I don’t think it’s odd at all - she obvs has her own mum, family etc. What is more odd is your sister’s grabby attitude..

ThisUmberSwan · Yesterday 19:47

babyproblems · Yesterday 19:40

I think the children should be treated the same. The SD will remember she isn’t considered ‘part of your family’

She has a whole other family potentially whole other set of grandparents and whole other parent who she spends half the time with. So no it isn’t on OP and her mum to buy the car and insurance

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:49

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 19:35

Well i wouldn't have given anything to any of them (maybe a card and a petrol voucher for like 30 quid if i was feeling flush).

I absolutely wouldn't expect you or tou mother to spend an equal amount on your step-niece as you have on your biological nephews... BUT I do find the disparity glaring. £100 if she was new to the family would be generous, but she's been part of the family for the vast majority of her life. I think maybe you could have stretched a bit further so the divide wasn't so obvious. Do you spend vastly less on her at birthdays and Christmas?

I do however think your sister is a CF for even bringing it up though and even moreso re the will conversation. I have a step-child and I don't EXPECT anyone to treat him the same as my biological kids... but i also don't think I could personally warrant a difference in spend by £1900 if it were me spending on my siblings stepkids.

Has your sister ever insinuated before that she expected your help with her stepdaughter?

Birthdays and Christmas, we buy them all something for roughly the same amount.

Until the boys went to uni, my mum and I also put money away for them as part of their birthday and Christmas which was to pay for uni. We didn’t do that for my sisters step daughter but she wasn’t aware. She had the same value of gifts to open.

No, my sister has never behaved like this before but this is the first big thing to come up. My mum thinks she’ll have been expecting the money for uni next year for her step daughter and it’s probably dawned on her that won’t be happening.

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saraclara · Yesterday 19:49

babyproblems · Yesterday 19:40

I think the children should be treated the same. The SD will remember she isn’t considered ‘part of your family’

There's part of the family and part of the family.

The girl sees a lot less of OP and OP 's mother, than OP 's nephews do. She is presumably treated well when she's with OP and her step-GM, and joins in family events when they're during her dad's time. But a relationship like this is really unlike the relationship between a grandparent and grandchild. Expecting a grandmother to spend £12k on a child that they see infrequently is entirely unreasonable.

OP 'sister presumably spends 50% of her time with her SD, so has formed a secure relationship with her. But the grandmother, however kind, will not have had all that time to reach a relationship that is similar to the one she has with her Grandsons who she sees more often .

Yes the GM should include the girl in family events, but she does not have to spend that amount of money on her.

Ubugly · Yesterday 19:50

Do the step daughters grandparents give there step grand children exactly the same as she gets?

I agree with you, I woild never expect my sons step mum's parents to buy him a bloody car! Wouldn't even cross my mind even if they bought his step sister a brand new Bentley!

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:32

My nephews were told their previous step brother was their brother, yet he disappeared from their life and they never even got to say goodbye.

Relevance?

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 19:57

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:49

Birthdays and Christmas, we buy them all something for roughly the same amount.

Until the boys went to uni, my mum and I also put money away for them as part of their birthday and Christmas which was to pay for uni. We didn’t do that for my sisters step daughter but she wasn’t aware. She had the same value of gifts to open.

No, my sister has never behaved like this before but this is the first big thing to come up. My mum thinks she’ll have been expecting the money for uni next year for her step daughter and it’s probably dawned on her that won’t be happening.

But why, at any point over the last 11 years, did you not have a conversation with your sister to say that you weren't saving for her step-daughter and that she wouldn't be getting large presents from you? If you've been attempting to make the girl think she's been getting equal-value presents all this time, it should have been made clear,at least to your sister, that this wasn't actually the case! I don't disagree with not spending thousands on her, but I do disagree with not making it clear from the start.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:57

Boreded · Yesterday 19:51

Relevance?

How many step children should we do this for that may never be seen again if my sister decides to split up with their dad?

My mum paid for my nephews to go to private school when their step brother was in the picture. Imagine if she’d have paid for the step son to treat him the same. What would have happened to his schooling when we were told we wouldn’t be seeing him anymore?

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Spidey66 · Yesterday 19:58

Tbh I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. The stepdaughter also has her mum’s family.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:59

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 19:57

But why, at any point over the last 11 years, did you not have a conversation with your sister to say that you weren't saving for her step-daughter and that she wouldn't be getting large presents from you? If you've been attempting to make the girl think she's been getting equal-value presents all this time, it should have been made clear,at least to your sister, that this wasn't actually the case! I don't disagree with not spending thousands on her, but I do disagree with not making it clear from the start.

Because I wouldn’t for a second think my sister would be so entitled to think we would be when she has her own grandparents and aunts to do what my mum and me have been doing.

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pinkpedi · Yesterday 20:00

I think you've been really mean and considering this girl has been a part of your family for most of her life I can't imagine how shit this has made her feel. Talk about making it clear she's an outsider.
Does her father/grandparents contribute to her living expenses equally? I'd understand more if they did but if you are her sole family that's awful.
Either way, £100 is extremely tight. I'm not surprised your sister is upset. You should have considered her right from the beginning when you did this to the first sibling.
I bet Christmas and birthdays are awful for her too.

independentfriend · Yesterday 20:01

Hindsight says you should have told your sister you weren't in a positive to do the same for her stepdaughter long before your sister and the young woman might have been planning on you doing the same for her.

Does the 18 year old need a car at the minute? If she's say at college with good public transport she maybe doesn't need one right now. (Or the ongoing maintenance/petrol/insurance costs) Are your nephews going to end up helping her out financially to buy one? Can you offer her a loan?

C152 · Yesterday 20:03

This child has been in your sister's life since the girl was 7. That's 11 years. I can see why your sister feels they should be treated the same. But, you said the girl's mum earns a lot more than your sister so, in this case, I think it's up to her mum to buy her a car. If she had no other family, I think it would be awful not to treat her the same as your nephews but here, she's surely going to be treated to something from her mum? (Maybe not a car. Maybe there's a reason her mum hasn't offered to buy her one? If it's become a problem, it's really something for your sister's husband to discuss with her ex. She should back right out of it.)

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 20:04

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 19:59

Because I wouldn’t for a second think my sister would be so entitled to think we would be when she has her own grandparents and aunts to do what my mum and me have been doing.

But you're not thinking about the girl. For over 10 years she's been thinking that you ARE treating her the same, because you said yourself that you've been keeping the university fees secret from her. So it must have come as an awful blow when she compared what she got from you compared to what her step-brothers got. With no warning. I feel sorry for her.

SheLovesThat · Yesterday 20:05

Ubugly · Yesterday 19:50

Do the step daughters grandparents give there step grand children exactly the same as she gets?

I agree with you, I woild never expect my sons step mum's parents to buy him a bloody car! Wouldn't even cross my mind even if they bought his step sister a brand new Bentley!

Good point. Her grandparents who are my nephews step grandparents don’t buy my nephews gifts to the same value as they buy for their own GD. They have also taken her on holiday without my nephews. We have taken her on holidays with my nephews.

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Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 20:06

gamerchick · Yesterday 18:43

While I think all kids in blended families should be treated like they're family. Your sister is a cheeky fucker for her expectations and taking her family for granted. Stepdaughter has a mother and a whole side of the family nephews don't. There has to be a give and take sometimes.

Exactly! I'm usually on the side of making sure blended children feel loved and included, but your sister is expecting too much here @SheLovesThat .