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Single dad looking for advice about birthday party issue.

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tomWh · Yesterday 13:39

Hello

I am a single dad with a 6 (almost 7) year-old daughter, and I am currently organizing her birthday party, a traditional party with a bouncy castle, inflatables etc.

The plan was for a whole class party, but I am very worried about one little boy who has autism. It sounds harsh, but he ruins every child's birthday he gets invited to the latest one was only a few weeks ago. He caused chaos and, honestly, the day was spoiled as he ended up upsetting a lot of the other children. He screamed around the whole place, demanding the music be stopped as he couldn't cope with it. He threw toys at people (breaking some of them), he hit other children and had a massive meltdown when the cake started to be cut as he wanted it to be whole, and when given a slice of cake, he proceeded to launch it across the room whilst also kicking one of the food tables, sending some of it flying

The parents of the birthday boy were understandably annoyed that the day was being ruined and the mother of the boy causing the issues doesn't deal with it very well. .Now to be fair, I can't imagine how difficult her daily life is dealing with this behavior, but she just has the belief that, as he has autism, we should be accepting of his issues and let it be, and she is very vocal that he should never be left out of something simply because he has auitms she will try and gently ask him to stop the behavior and when things get really bad she will try and hold him in one place for a moment, but that's pretty much it

Now I agree it is awful for the little boy, but he has been extremely violent towards my daughter on several occasions and I can't see the point of spending all this money on a birthday party just for him to have a chance to spoil yet another party, but I also don't think its fair not to throw my daughter a party because of one child now I will be printing off the invitations today ready to handed out on Monday and I don't what to do as excluding him seems cruel, but I don't see him behaving at my daughter's party any different than he has all the others, and I'm dreading another party full of injured crying and scared kids.

What would you do? Any advice on approaching the mum would also be appreciated, but I would say she's not all that open about discussing her son and just believes he should be at everything no matter the chaos it causes.

OP posts:
GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 18:44

Merryoldgoat · Yesterday 18:42

Just to address your second point, this ‘missing out’ narrative is often driven by the parents: many ND children like completely different things to NT kids and the rapid acceptance of this would be to everyone’s advantage.

My (ASD) boys like different things. Older loved parties and friends and is very sociable - lots of parties hosted and attended. My younger? Would rather play with a weighted helium balloon (which he did on his last birthday for 6 hours). He’s not left out - he likes different things and if I pushed him to parties etc it would be for me.

That’s very interesting, thank you.
(I was thinking of a different situation: other posters had indicated their child would probably like to attend but would make things less enjoyable for other children, so they don’t accept.)

B9waiting · Yesterday 18:46

I think you’ve done the right thing in sending the message Op.

MyOliveStork · Yesterday 18:47

I agree that you have done the right thing here and the message was a good idea.
Your priority is your child, her birthday and giving her a lovely party.
You are not obliged to invite a violent child who you know will become over stimulated and ruin it. Part of what is wrong with children, parenting and life lessons these days is that everyone expects everyone to be treated the same. It isn’t always possible or the right thing to do.
Everyone will enjoy the party and I am sure all the other children will be happy as well. Might be mean to point that out, but it’s true.

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 18:50

FayeLP · Yesterday 14:00

I have a child with autism and understand how hard it can be - mine heavily masks so is rarely an issue in these situations but has friends who experience dysregulation at parties etc.

If you want to address it head on, I would send a message to this effect:

‘I know parties can be overwhelming and chaotic - at the last party, I noticed he got really overwhelmed, which led to a difficult situation for him and the other kids enjoying the party. I want to make sure he feels safe and supported this time and that the party can go ahead as planned without significant disruption. Can we do something together to help him have a good time - would it help if we set up a quiet space or maybe had him come for just a specific part of the party?’

Completely understandable if you don’t want to make adjustments (if not, invite half the class or less so you’re not specifically leaving him out).

Perfect, I would go with this, op

didgeridid · Yesterday 18:50

Just don't invite him. Autism or not, if you don't want someone at a party, don't invite them.

Merryoldgoat · Yesterday 18:53

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 18:44

That’s very interesting, thank you.
(I was thinking of a different situation: other posters had indicated their child would probably like to attend but would make things less enjoyable for other children, so they don’t accept.)

I didn’t want that to sound sanctimonious - I was rushing - (posting whilst cooking) but I notice it a lot. A good friend with an autistic son was telling me how it breaks her heart to see her son away from crowds at school or parties.

He clearly prefers that. He’s ver sweet and knows me well but is entirely uninterested in other people. We (as NT people) don’t get it but that’s fine. She had an elaborate party for him that he was entirely uninterested in and just wanted to go home. She wanted him not to miss out. He would’ve preferred 2 hours on the train.

Abbybright · Yesterday 18:54

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 18:50

Perfect, I would go with this, op

Too late unfortunately.

Abbybright · Yesterday 18:55

Merryoldgoat · Yesterday 18:53

I didn’t want that to sound sanctimonious - I was rushing - (posting whilst cooking) but I notice it a lot. A good friend with an autistic son was telling me how it breaks her heart to see her son away from crowds at school or parties.

He clearly prefers that. He’s ver sweet and knows me well but is entirely uninterested in other people. We (as NT people) don’t get it but that’s fine. She had an elaborate party for him that he was entirely uninterested in and just wanted to go home. She wanted him not to miss out. He would’ve preferred 2 hours on the train.

It very much depends on the child. Many autistic children do enjoy parties and would feel an exclusion very keenly.

FiveEightNine · Yesterday 18:56

Good decision. And I agree with the message format - it gives her time to process instead of protest. The best case scenario, she can now pretend claim that "after Max's she wouldn't have take him anyway".

All those "you can't ommit one child" - that depends on the reason.
I really hate how easily many suggest "girls only" - so because of one boy the birthday girl can't have her friends who happened to be boys there? It's just so wrong.

Thatsalineallright · Yesterday 18:58

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · Yesterday 18:42

Yes,I take your point, thank you.

Obviously with the M and under supervision.

But why any playdate at all? This boy is violent towards her. Do you really think it is a good message to teach a young girl that she should invite violent boys home and 'be kind'? Like I said, bonkers.

Valpolichella · Yesterday 19:03

Abbybright · Yesterday 18:55

It very much depends on the child. Many autistic children do enjoy parties and would feel an exclusion very keenly.

That is true. But if their behaviour is such that they are excluded because of it? That has to be explained to them, surely? Or, as PP said, how will they ever learn?

Merryoldgoat · Yesterday 19:04

Abbybright · Yesterday 18:55

It very much depends on the child. Many autistic children do enjoy parties and would feel an exclusion very keenly.

Well obviously - I said my older boy loved parties. But the exclusion is the consequence of his behaviour. His mum isn’t supporting him adequately and doing him a disservice. This will continue and get worse if she doesn’t deal with it now.

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 19:08

Abbybright · Yesterday 18:54

Too late unfortunately.

Well, that will teach me to read the ops post in its entirety 🙄
Don't know why they posted anyway, seems they had their mind made up beforehand 🙄

SouthLondonMum22 · Yesterday 19:15

Thatsalineallright · Yesterday 18:58

But why any playdate at all? This boy is violent towards her. Do you really think it is a good message to teach a young girl that she should invite violent boys home and 'be kind'? Like I said, bonkers.

I agree.

Not to mention that part of the issue is the lack of supervision.

Blueuggboots · Yesterday 19:15

My son had ASD. He used to get invited to parties and could misbehave when overwhelmed. So when invited, I would say to the parents that he would come, but if he became overwhelmed or badly behaved, then we would leave immediately without fuss.
my son was also aware that if he misbehaved, we would leave immediately. He got angry with a child once and swore at them and presented himself to my mum who had taken him and told her she needed to take him home!

godmum56 · Yesterday 19:34

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 19:08

Well, that will teach me to read the ops post in its entirety 🙄
Don't know why they posted anyway, seems they had their mind made up beforehand 🙄

you can think that x or y course of action is best but still want to ask others or another if they have any other approaches. The OP made clear that that was why he was posting

godmum56 · Yesterday 19:37

tomWh · Yesterday 14:46

This is the message I have typed to send (names have been changed). Does it sound okay? I was going to call but after seeing so many people saying text instead of call, I decided to do that.

Hi Katie

i am planning Ellie's 7th birthday party and invites will be handed out on Monday. I wanted to speak with you first to give you a heads-up that I have made the decision not to invite Charlie to the party after seeing how much he struggled at Max's birthday a few weeks ago. If you think Charlie would like a party bag and some cake, I am happy to arrange that. I hope you understand

I think that's a good message, fair and clear and not dissing the child.

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 19:52

godmum56 · Yesterday 19:34

you can think that x or y course of action is best but still want to ask others or another if they have any other approaches. The OP made clear that that was why he was posting

Ok but reading it all, I think op wanted pp to say, no to inviting the boy anyway. That's my perception anyway.

Thatsalineallright · Yesterday 19:59

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 19:52

Ok but reading it all, I think op wanted pp to say, no to inviting the boy anyway. That's my perception anyway.

He probably did and what's wrong with that? His instinct was to not invite the boy, he wanted to check whether he was being unreasonable, most people agreed with him, so he's gone ahead with his plan. Isn't that what most posters use AIBU for?

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 20:05

Thatsalineallright · Yesterday 19:59

He probably did and what's wrong with that? His instinct was to not invite the boy, he wanted to check whether he was being unreasonable, most people agreed with him, so he's gone ahead with his plan. Isn't that what most posters use AIBU for?

👌

LongDarkTeatime · Yesterday 20:10

It’s wonderful your year are trying to be inclusive.
It sounds like this boy gets overstimulated by the noise and busyness, as well has having difficulty with change (cake cutting). With the lack of specialist support and funding I’m guessing he’ll remain in your class for a while.
For the future would it be possible to acknowledge these difficulties with his mum & dad, and suggest just inviting him at the end, after cake-cutting and the music has finished, for food or the goodie bags?

OffTheMap · Yesterday 20:12

I think it is good you sent that message OP, and it would be better if more people were open and honest and direct rather than just not saying anything.

Of course the Mum will be upset, it's an upsetting situation, but the solution to that is not for your dd to be upset!

If she speaks to you about it say you know it isn't the boy's fault but unfortunately your dd has been in the firing line of his upset a few times and finds it frightening - and that parties seem to overwhelm his so you don't want to risk your dd being distressed at her party.

HenriettaHippopotamus · Yesterday 20:20

Did you receive a reply @tomWh ?

thenightsky · Yesterday 22:16

SirenScream · Yesterday 16:16

I support your decision @tomWh

And so do I.

pinkyredrose · Today 00:35

Blueuggboots · Yesterday 19:15

My son had ASD. He used to get invited to parties and could misbehave when overwhelmed. So when invited, I would say to the parents that he would come, but if he became overwhelmed or badly behaved, then we would leave immediately without fuss.
my son was also aware that if he misbehaved, we would leave immediately. He got angry with a child once and swore at them and presented himself to my mum who had taken him and told her she needed to take him home!

I like the sound of your son!

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