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To want to completely change what my DC eat even when DH thinks I’m making a fuss?

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boltmelon · Yesterday 12:53

Namechanged because I’m embarrassed tbh and don’t really want anyone who knows me recognising this. I’ve got 3 boys, ds1 is 5 and has just started reception, ds2 is 2 and ds3 is 2 months old. I’ve realised our diet has got really quite bad and I’ve got to the point where I want to properly change what we all eat. Not put the older boys on diets or anything like that, just actually eat better food as a family. DH thinks I’m making a massive fuss about something that isn’t really a problem and I’m not sure if I am.

Our diet has never been amazing tbh. Before children we ate a lot of takeaways and convenience stuff and when ds1 was born I did try to improve things but gradually just got into the easiest routine again. This summer has been particularly bad since ds3 was born in July. I’ve had a newborn, a 2 year old, ds1 off school, it’s been hot and DH has been at home as well and I’ve been absolutely knackered. Food has basically become whatever gets everyone fed with the least amount of effort. I know I’m responsible for a lot of it because I’m the one who shops and cooks.

DH isn’t working at the moment after being sacked from his job earlier this year, although he’s taking it through an employment tribunal so that’s been going on too. He’s home a lot but doesn’t really cook. He’s never made a proper family meal from scratch tbh. He’ll put frozen stuff in the oven or do toast or order a takeaway but that’s about it. His own diet has always been pretty poor as well, lots of snacks and takeaways and stuff. I do wonder sometimes if the boys have just picked up all of this from him as he’ll happily eat chips and nuggets with them and say it’s fine.

Ds1 has just started reception and I’ve started noticing how much more solidly built he is than some of the boys in his class. He’s also quite short so his school trousers are already getting tight round the waist but if I go up a size they are ridiculously long. I’m not saying he’s obese or anything like that and I absolutely do not want to put a 5 year old on a diet. He does PE, plays outside at school, rides his scooter and we go to the park/soft play etc, we’re just not a particularly sporty family. It’s more that I’ve started thinking about where this is heading if we carry on eating the same way, rather than thinking he needs to lose weight now.

The thing that really made me stop and think was the dentist this week. Both of the older boys has cavities or early decay and I felt absolutely awful about it because I know their diet hasn’t helped. DH basically said they’re baby teeth anyway and they’ll fall out. I know they will obviously but that doesn’t mean I want them having fillings or decay at 5 and 2. It’s made me think we need a family reset rather than just carrying on because it’s easier. I’m thinking proper meals, more veg, less constant snacking, water instead of squash most of the time, fewer biscuits/crisps and takeaways less often. I’m not talking about counting calories or anything like that.

Yesterday was actually fairly normal for us which is probably why I’m embarrassed writing it down. Ds1 had 2 slices white toast with butter, then chocolate cereal because apparently the toast wasn’t enough, and a small glass of apple juice. At school he had chicken nuggets, chips and beans, chocolate mousse and water. After school he had crisps, 2 chocolate biscuits and squash. For dinner I made fish and chips at home, battered fish, oven chips and mushy peas rather than getting a takeaway. He refused the fish and peas, ate loads of chips with ketchup then later had a yoghurt and 2 biscuits. Ds2 had chocolate cereal and whole milk, banana, then a cheese sandwich on white bread, crisps and yoghurt. He had grapes and 2 biscuits later.

For dinner ds2 also refused the fish and peas, ate some chips and ketchup then asked for toast. I gave him toast because I didn’t want him going to bed hungry. I’m trying not to automatically make a replacement meal every time they refuse something because otherwise I feel like they’ll never eat anything different, but DH thinks I’m being ridiculous and turning dinner into a battle. He says if they don’t want fish then just give them something they will eat. He also says they’ve always eaten like this and I’m suddenly acting like there’s some huge problem.

The frustrating thing is that I’m the one doing all the food. I’m the one buying fruit that gets ignored, buying vegetables that end up going in the bin and making toast when dinner gets refused. DH is quite happy to criticise the new meals but he’s never actually cooked one. He says I’ve become “food police” and that I’m stressed and sleep deprived and looking for something else to worry about. I don’t think I’m asking him to suddenly diet or never have chips again. I just want him to stop undermining it when I’m trying to change things for all of us, especially when I’m the one who has to actually make the changes happen.

What I want to do isn’t even particularly exciting. Breakfast could be porridge or eggs or toast with fruit rather than chocolate cereal every day. Water or milk as normal drinks, fruit available between meals, one family dinner rather than 2 or 3 alternatives. Some freezer meals obviously because I have a newborn and I’m not pretending I’m going to make everything from scratch. Takeaway maybe once a week rather than several times, sweets and biscuits still allowed but not constantly available, and more dinners with vegetables. I know this sounds incredibly basic and that’s partly why I feel stupid even posting it. I’ve somehow got to the stage where I need to deliberately plan to do what I feel like we should have been doing anyway.

DH thinks I’m overreacting because ds1 is only 5 and ds2 is 2, they’re active enough, they’re growing and children are supposed to have treats. He keeps saying the baby teeth argument means nothing because they fall out anyway. I’m not trying to make them thin and I don’t want them thinking food is something they should feel guilty about. I just don’t want them growing up thinking dinner means chips/nuggets/pizza and that refusing something automatically gets you toast or biscuits instead. But I also know I’m the one who has cooked all this stuff and let the routine get like this, so I’m hardly in a position to blame DH for everything. AIBU to want to completely change what my DC eat when DH thinks I’m making a fuss?

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Heronwatcher · Yesterday 20:56

YANBU. My kids have a pretty normal
diet, we are absolutely not the knit-your-own Quinoa gang but that is pretty bad.

I don’t think you need to do anything radical shopping wise, just stop with the biscuits, squash and chocolate cereal.

You have got to get your DH on board though, either he’s in a pretty bad place himself or he’s being deliberately difficult but, sorry, you have got to think of your kids first and have the massive row with your DH now if that’s what it takes. My DP would not in a million years have thought to order a burger for himself when we were eating together. No wonder the kids wouldn’t eat the fish. He’s setting a shocking example. Also isn’t it really expensive (plus a burger sat in an insulated bag and bumped around on a moped is 🤮).

JC89 · Yesterday 21:00

You are absolutely doing the right thing to try and improve their diet and your DH sounds worse than useless tbh! I feel for you doing it with a newborn too...The "they are only baby teeth" argument won't be true for long either if your eldest is 5, mine is 6 and has a couple of adult teeth now.

Some things that work for us that may help: after toast in the morning (can you swap that for wholemeal?), if still hungry offer fruit (can you take the kids food shopping and let them choose something?). Either they are hungry and they eat it and get some vitamins into them or they aren't hungry enough and don't it (and don't eat chocolate cereal). Would they go for (plain) yogurt as that's a bit more filling too?

Mealtimes - we used to start by plating up about half what we thought DS would eat. When he'd finished all of it he could have more of whatever bit he wanted. If he's not hungry enough for peas he's not hungry enough for more chips. It's hard if they genuinely don't like something though I wouldn't want to force them, but they need to have given it a good try (this might be one spoon if they went into it with a good attitude or maybe 3 if they said they didn't like it before trying it).

There are some good recipes in What Mummy Makes and Family Comforts by Rebecca Wilson including things like spinach and sweetcorn muffins and courgette fritters (we freeze both of those and defrost in the microwave as needed). Also bliss balls which make good filling snacks.

Gobbledegoo · Yesterday 21:01

Your DH was probably sacked because he wasn't taking/listening to instructions. He is the same at home and trying to ruin your DCs health and teeth. He is not a good person or parent.

FusionChefGeoff · Yesterday 21:12

I think it’s brilliant that you’ve recognised this and want to make changes.

I would advise doing it very gradually and 1 thing at a time.

So start with eg the after school snack - keep the crisps but swap the biscuit for some fruit. Try lots of different ones; get DS to choose in the supermarket etc. Then when that is ‘normal’ swap the crisps for toasted pitta. Then when that’s normal, swap to wholemeal pitta.

Same for breakfast - swap to slightly less sugary cereal each box (check the labels for the per 100g figure). Then try Weetabix (using tiny bit of sugar sprinkled on if necessary that you slowly reduce). If you need to keep breakfast quick I think Weetabix is probably your ‘goal’ as anything else does add a layer of organisation!

GlosGirl82 · Yesterday 21:32

You are not overreacting- well done for recognising an issue. I made vegetables and fruit fun - put them into shapes and patterns ect. That really helped

seahorsessky · Yesterday 21:41

TeacherPaperQ · Yesterday 13:16

@boltmelon
Well done for making the change early.
My 22yr old is horrified his GF doesn't have a piece of fruit after each meal, and DD similarly that her BF rarely has veg. Growing up with good habits sets them up for life.

Get them involved.
Get them chopping up can cucumber sticks or peeling carrots (DD16 will still ask to help with if I'm doing that).
Bake together.
Meal plan together.
Everyone gets to choose one dinner per week so they get their favourite once, but they have to eat everything.
Took a while for mine to tell the difference between 'i don't like it' and 'its not my favourite but I'll eat it'.
Don't make different things if they don't eat what is provided.

Don't let DH undermine you. You are 100% doing the right thing.

All good points, but there are people whose parents did all of this and more, and who eat rubbish as soon as they move out! One of these has just had a health check, and is shocked to find he's got issues, and is now actually eating well to the point of orthorexia, so OP, might be worth sending your partner for one of these. Depending on his age, he should be getting NHS ones, but if not, paying for one might turn out to be worth it.
And there's free family cooking courses depending on you circumstances/where you live. Find out about these, so he can learn, and maybe take the kids.

Nosleepforthismum · Yesterday 22:05

I think you are doing the right thing and I sympathise with your position as it sounds as though your DH is going to be the biggest challenge here. For me, this would be a hill to die on so prepare for a blazing row and threaten divorce unless he steps up (and mean it). He is neglecting his children’s health and it’s a big deal.

However, start slowly. You’ve got a lot going on and I would start with small changes. Firstly, only water or milk from now on - no squash, juice and definitely no fizzy drinks.

No chocolate cereal but get Cheerios/shreddies/cornflakes. Brown bread instead of white. Bananas or apples if they claim they are hungry on the way to school and if they request a snack before dinner. Ketchup - Mine would eat it with a spoon if I allowed it. I prepare them in advance and tell them they can have what’s on their plate but when it’s all gone, it’s gone.

Don’t worry about them being hungry. You need to find a fruit that they will eat and basically anytIme they ask for food outside of mealtimes, you direct them to the fruit. They will eat it eventually and will not starve despite tears and tantrums at the beginning. Hold firm, lots of us have been there and they stop resisting once they realise you are serious.

Phineyj · Yesterday 22:24

@fluffblue's "starters" idea works well. I have an autistic teen with rather restricted eating and she will eat cherry tomatoes or cucumbers or chopped fruit mindlessly out of a bowl if I plonk it in front of her.

I would recommend you change one thing per week and do it by stealth as much as possible. If DH is useless then no point trying to get him on side.

Regarding the tooth decay, rigour with tooth brushing might be just as important as what they eat and drink.

DD's diet as I said isn't the best but we've always been super on it with tooth brushing (and fortunately she actually prefers sugar free drinks) and she's never had a filling. We did have a whole family issue with fizzy drinks but the dentist suggested using straws which has helped (it keeps acidity away from the teeth) and DH has switched to fizzy water from a Soda Stream instead of the gallons of Pepsi etc he used to have.

IButtleSir · Yesterday 22:57

One of the smallest things you can do which will have the biggest positive impact (especially on their teeth) is stop giving them anything to drink other than water. No juice, no squash, no fizzy drinks.

Also, look for easy switches- if your kids like toast, buy brown or seeded bread so at least they're getting some nutrition from it. Try sweet potato fries rather than normal chips, and low-sugar ketchup rather than the standard one. Lots of little changes will really add up.

Your husband sounds like an utter twat, but unfortunately you're stuck with him as a co-parent, so you're going to have to try to mitigate his terrible influence.

SoManySliders · Yesterday 23:59

Every week you do the shipping change one thing. I’d be ditching the chocolate cereal first. Cheerios, weetabix or porridge. That’s the options from now on for breakfast. If the 5 year old starts kicking off, let him. He can go to school hungry for a morning or two, he won’t suffer. Tell him the shop doesn’t have the chocolate cereal anymore. End of story.

Change one thing every week, that way it’s less noticeable and easier on you.

No more crisps or biscuits midweek, make them a weekend treat.

Treat only after dinner, after they have eaten all their dinner or an amount acceptable to you. Stay strong!! You got this mama 💪

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