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To be mortified and so upset about how this date ended?

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AmberCatz · 23/09/2026 10:04

I met a guy a couple of months ago and we've been out a few times. I posted before about the first date being 11 hours long (he kept extending the day and I was happy to spend time). But although there had been affection and some hand holding we hadn't kissed yet - so this did make me suspicious about his interest. Its been stressing me out really.

Last night we went to a show with my best friend and her boyfriend. Afterwards, he suggested we all grab a drink at a nearby pub. had a great time and because I was off work today we kept going (and drinking, bad move). Basically we talked about how we were both single and open, then I asked if he'd like to kiss and he leaned in and kissed me. We made out for a while and then went to another bar where he instigated another make out and put his arm around me etc.

I haven't slept with anyone in a year and was keen to take him home. So i suggested it and he said he was too tired and needed to sleep before work. I immediately read he just wasn't interested and it hurt but I brushed it off. He said we'll meet 'some other time'

As we were trying to get me a taxi he kept walking ahead and became super distant. Finally I was like what gives and he says 'I'm not looking for anything romantic right now'. I think I messed up here because I then said he owed me an apology for leading me on. He refused, and said there's nothing wrong for enjoying one night and kissing. We had not an argument but a kind of tiff.

I'm now dead from the worst hungover for ages and feel terrible about how we left things. We have each other on social media and several mutual friends - do I need to apologise? I also feel like I threw myself out him and he isn't attracted to me so that feels terrible also.

OP posts:
Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 14:05

AmberCatz · 25/09/2026 11:39

Well the hangover has passed but still feeling low emotionally. At least I've made plans this weekend so won't be moping at home.

It's been two days and he didn't message further. I think yes like others have said he obviously wasn't interested enough. I personally felt he did fancy me and we had chemistry. My friend said it was obvious he fancied me and tbh she doesn't usually sugercoat things. Apparently while walking home, her and her partner turned to each other and said do you think something is going to happen between them tonight? And this was before I messaged the next morning to tell her etc. I don't think I imagined attraction on his side. I felt it, especially when he held my hand and put his arms around me. That felt real. But yes something changed and it's not going to work out. He was not very interested.

@woollensmashkin also touched on something that I'm concerned may be true. I am popular and outgoing, as well as more successful in the industry than he is. So far I'd brought him more into that world and introduced him to people. This may have been part of his motivation.

I've also realised I don't want to be with someone that drinks that much. I'm at a different stage in life. We both drank too much and things were said that are hard to forget now. But at least I clearly know where I stand.

Edited

I think it’s insecurity that made you think he didn’t fancy you, or the sex rejection. It was clear he did and I commented as such up thread. But fancying you doesn’t mean he has to shag you on request. His justification of it was 2am, he was tired, had work, and wished to see you again was a valid one. It’s what came after that that caused the issues.

you seem fixated on if he fancied you for some reason. Most people. Myself included have fancied someone, snogged them, had a grope but not proceed to drunk sex, and most of us can tell you something that gave us an immediate ick and killed that. If a man was belligerent or hurt as I reasonably refused sex that would probably do it for me.

on saying that, I’d guess you have a gut instinct here, and you suspect you were way way more into him than he was you , and that’s why you thought he didn’t fancy you and are seeking reassurance and going on about it. And as he wasn’t as into you as you are him, hence why the ick came so fast. And why he’s brushed this off without a second glance.

as the saying goes, he just wasn’t that into you.

SquirrelMadness · 25/09/2026 14:11

OP I've only read your posts rather than the full thread. I think you're beating yourself up a little too much. You were drunk and you've apologised for being pushy. I don't think you need to beat yourself up more.

I really doubt you ruined anything. Also, just thinking back on my own experiences, I think it helps to think about what you want rather than trying to work out what other people want. You want chemistry, connection and a committed romantic relationship (at least that's my interpretation but sorry if I've got that wrong). I don't think this man can offer that. It doesn't matter why and you probably won't ever know why. Maybe he's going through some stuff, maybe he's not emotionally stable right now (in which case much better not to get involved!), maybe there's a clear lifestyle difference, maybe he realised it wasn't going to work for some reason - there's just no way to know. But he's not what you want/need right now, which is still sad, but it's easier to accept that than going through the impossible puzzle of trying to work out what he's thinking.

When I think back to people I've changed my mind about in the past (ie put myself in his shoes), it's more often been due to my own issues rather than anything else.

In reality there is no easy way to reject someone or to be rejected, but it does happen to every single one of us and it doesn't say anything about your overall attractiveness.

JMSA · 25/09/2026 15:11

He probably has sexual issues or is insecure about the size of his penis. I’m honestly not being facetious; he will have a hang-up of some sort. YANBU and have dodged a bullet with this weirdo.

dairydebris · 25/09/2026 15:18

To any of those women saying its probably his problem because he has a tiny penis...

a) do you think a tiny penis is a problem you should mock?
b) are you actually shallow enough that a tiny penis is a deal breaker in the first place?
c) if you turned down sex with a man do you think it would be OK if he said it was probably because you have a huge fanny or a sexual disease? Wouldn't that make him an utter prick for saying that? So why is it ok for you to say the equivalent?

Dreamcatcher90 · 25/09/2026 15:20

Completely agree dairydebris. The world's gone mad he prob just didnt dig a woman who puts out after a few drinks.

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 15:24

Venusunbroken · 23/09/2026 20:27

And bizzarely you’re still totally ignoring this.

I haven't slept with anyone in a year and was keen to take him home. So i suggested it and he said he was too tired and needed to sleep before work. I immediately read he just wasn't interested and it hurt but I brushed it off. He said we'll meet 'some other time'

I get being over invested but pretending it wasn’t whay I and the op said is a bit much.

not ignoring it at all? But what's wrong with that? She is only saying there that she liked him, would have liked to have spent the night with him and was disappointed he said no.

None of that is badgering someone for sex when they said no. The next paragraph, the one I directed you to that you ignored makes it clear why she got upset. Not because he said no to sex, but how he then dismissed her (we'll meet up sometime) and ignored her (walking ahead). That's shitty behaviour.

She should not have said he 'led her on'. But he treated her badly, and she is entitled to feel upset. That's NOT the same as saying, we kissed, you have to sleep with me now.

It's certainly not my reading of it that's bizarre. 😳

And it's plain as day that he's gay, and not interested on that basis

JMSA · 25/09/2026 15:44

dairydebris · 25/09/2026 15:18

To any of those women saying its probably his problem because he has a tiny penis...

a) do you think a tiny penis is a problem you should mock?
b) are you actually shallow enough that a tiny penis is a deal breaker in the first place?
c) if you turned down sex with a man do you think it would be OK if he said it was probably because you have a huge fanny or a sexual disease? Wouldn't that make him an utter prick for saying that? So why is it ok for you to say the equivalent?

Who’s mocking it? I wasn’t. It can be a genuine issue for some men.

JMSA · 25/09/2026 15:44

Dreamcatcher90 · 25/09/2026 15:20

Completely agree dairydebris. The world's gone mad he prob just didnt dig a woman who puts out after a few drinks.

I hardly think that’s fair.

Dreamcatcher90 · 25/09/2026 15:48

I hardly think its fair blaming a man for erectile dysfunction , having an std or being called a weirdo?

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 15:55

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 15:24

not ignoring it at all? But what's wrong with that? She is only saying there that she liked him, would have liked to have spent the night with him and was disappointed he said no.

None of that is badgering someone for sex when they said no. The next paragraph, the one I directed you to that you ignored makes it clear why she got upset. Not because he said no to sex, but how he then dismissed her (we'll meet up sometime) and ignored her (walking ahead). That's shitty behaviour.

She should not have said he 'led her on'. But he treated her badly, and she is entitled to feel upset. That's NOT the same as saying, we kissed, you have to sleep with me now.

It's certainly not my reading of it that's bizarre. 😳

And it's plain as day that he's gay, and not interested on that basis

😱

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 25/09/2026 16:00

I could be completely wrong @AmberCatz , but I think probably he did fancy you and liked you but sounds very wary of relationships (apart from his one with alcohol 😁)
If that's a lifestyle you've been steering clear of, then I think you are right to regard it as something you didn't want to be dragged back into.

So fact that you work in the same industry, you are sociable, confident and outgoing - (more so than he is from the description) and you have a lot of contacts and acquaintances in the related industry - and you are not afraid of being honest - is maybe why he's veered off. But all of those things are good qualities, so its lame if that was the reason.

Perhaps he realised that having a casual fling or a quick relationship that ends as soon as he felt he was getting too involved or not following through would look bad to all these people. Maybe he's just one of those pick you up and drop you and pick you up again types. If that's the case, he might be a bit calculating and using you for introductions.

All of that is only a possible theory though. I guess I was looking for ways to say you may have dodged a bullet. Whatever it is, I hope you have a bloomin brilliant weekend with your friends and don't let this continue to weigh you down.

Good points by @SquirrelMadness BTW

NotMajorTom · 25/09/2026 16:05

Dreamcatcher90 · 25/09/2026 10:04

I did write a post but seems its been took down. I cant believe how people's brains work these days. Maybe he just got the ick she was putting out too soon , maybe her breathe stunk... maybe he couldn't handle his alcohol or needed a shit. Im not saying any of those things are true but branding the man being gay bisexual having erectile dysfunction and actually fully meaning and believing it is beyond crazy and i can tell theres obviously alot of people on this thread that have got through life by being in denial in there own situations and absoloutely deluding themselves. I cant believe this post has got so much attention. Just message him an ask if youve done something wrong or why the change in heart if you want answers or get over it in a few days and move on. Im sure every adult on this thread has had rejection in there life and a confusing head scratcher situation..but its life.

Spot on
the number of people saying he must be gay, bisexual, impotent, or have some other issue just because he didn’t want to sleep with the op is shocking.

NotMajorTom · 25/09/2026 16:06

JMSA · 25/09/2026 15:11

He probably has sexual issues or is insecure about the size of his penis. I’m honestly not being facetious; he will have a hang-up of some sort. YANBU and have dodged a bullet with this weirdo.

Ffs

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 16:24

NotMajorTom · 25/09/2026 16:05

Spot on
the number of people saying he must be gay, bisexual, impotent, or have some other issue just because he didn’t want to sleep with the op is shocking.

And if he has slept with her and the next day she regretted it, said she’d been very drunk, they’d have called him a rapist and said drunk women can’t consent.

Dreamcatcher90 · 25/09/2026 16:30

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 16:24

And if he has slept with her and the next day she regretted it, said she’d been very drunk, they’d have called him a rapist and said drunk women can’t consent.

Exactly and cant claim wanted something serious and romantic nothing serious or romantic about the situation but thats my opinion. Im not judging I believe 2 consenting adults can do what they like with no judgement sexually... but if you go down the route of messy drunken sex then youve already set a boundary of the type of relationship which is not serious or romantic.

AmberCatz · 25/09/2026 16:43

@DuckbilledSplatterPuff yeah I can't say for sure but feel there may be some truth in what you say.

If he thinks that messing me around or having a fling could be damaging to his career, yes he might worry.

one thing I found a bit odd the other night was he was keen to do a deep dive on my previous relationships, wanted to know if my last break up was good or bad etc. When I said he said we broke up last year he went 'oh wow that's really recent' (really?). I don't usually want to talk about exes in depth like this early doors - bit much. Going to try and 'shake it off' this weekend (Florence and the Machine style)...

OP posts:
Millytante · 25/09/2026 17:17

JHound · 25/09/2026 10:43

It’s insane advice!

Insane and dangerous

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 17:24

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 15:55

😱

Do use your words?

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 17:27

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 16:24

And if he has slept with her and the next day she regretted it, said she’d been very drunk, they’d have called him a rapist and said drunk women can’t consent.

God I feel like using your emoji right back to you.

If a man slept with a woman without obtaining genuine consent, of course it's rape - there is no 'calling him a rapist'

I really think some posters have difficulty reading.

It's not the 'no sex' part that upset her (though she'd have liked sex); it's the acting like he was interested (passionate kissing), before then completely changing, vaguely saying he'd see her 'some time', denying he ever wanted a romantic relationship, and ignoring her as they walked to get her a taxi. That's really demeaning treatment.

Imagine thinking the scenario you just wrote has any relevance to what happened.

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 17:29

AmberCatz · 25/09/2026 16:43

@DuckbilledSplatterPuff yeah I can't say for sure but feel there may be some truth in what you say.

If he thinks that messing me around or having a fling could be damaging to his career, yes he might worry.

one thing I found a bit odd the other night was he was keen to do a deep dive on my previous relationships, wanted to know if my last break up was good or bad etc. When I said he said we broke up last year he went 'oh wow that's really recent' (really?). I don't usually want to talk about exes in depth like this early doors - bit much. Going to try and 'shake it off' this weekend (Florence and the Machine style)...

i don't think there's any truth in it, tbh. If there was, he'd say that, while being kind to you. Not denying there was anything romantic after kissing you, and shutting down and ignoring you.

And if he was thinking that way, and isn't mature enough to use his words, then really, there's no point in being with him anyway

Minniemeandothers · 25/09/2026 18:03

It is disappointing that things did not work out but I think he would have not said “I am not looking for anything romantic right now” if you had not made your intentions clear. I understand knowing you were a bit drunk adds to your shame, but he is the one who is playing an unclear game. I think you can proudly move on without any apology and keep dating until you find your person.

Venusunbroken · 25/09/2026 18:19

EarringsandLipstick · 25/09/2026 17:27

God I feel like using your emoji right back to you.

If a man slept with a woman without obtaining genuine consent, of course it's rape - there is no 'calling him a rapist'

I really think some posters have difficulty reading.

It's not the 'no sex' part that upset her (though she'd have liked sex); it's the acting like he was interested (passionate kissing), before then completely changing, vaguely saying he'd see her 'some time', denying he ever wanted a romantic relationship, and ignoring her as they walked to get her a taxi. That's really demeaning treatment.

Imagine thinking the scenario you just wrote has any relevance to what happened.

Well you and her disagree, as she’s been very clear, from in her op on, it really hurt her, but you tell her she’s wrong Confused

Bunny65 · 25/09/2026 18:32

He's obviously got problems. He led you on and it wasn't a casual one-off thing that happened spontaneously on a night out. In any case it is horribly teasing to go out on dates with someone, go in for passionate kissing and then reject them. It's not as if you proposed marriage. I would give him a wide berth from now on and don't beat yourself up, as soon as he realises you're not interested he'll come crawling back at some point wanting your attention. It's all ego with some of these types.

Ladygodalmighty · 25/09/2026 19:07

AmyDudley · 23/09/2026 10:11

You don't need to apologise, he's being rude and giving out mixed messages. I'd say you dodged a bullet by finding out what he's actually like before you get involved. Personally I would ditch him, but I've got a low thresh hold for people who play silly games.

Anyway don't feel upset and mortified over some idiot who makes you feel bad.

This 💯

outerspacepotato · 25/09/2026 19:08

She was very drunk and he decided not to have sex with someone who was really drunk. That's a smart decision.

Teasing? Leading on? That sounds like something out of the 60s. A man can say no to sex just like a woman. He was being a decent guy and not doing something they both might regret in the morning, especially when she was being argumentative. She got messy drunk and he got turned off is the most likely scenario. Or it was 2 AM and he was tired.

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