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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 22/09/2026 10:14

A continuation of Thread 1.

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. Why? Well many reasons.. Here are just two.

Eg. They won't release sex crime statistics of immigrants / asylum seekers. Why? Other European countries have done, and it is not pretty. Our gvt gives out a leaflet asking them not to rape the locals. Why? Our gvt has said they won't house asylum seekers next to schools and nurseries, why?

Eg. UK now spends more on benefits than it earns in income tax. Labour have increased this - not reduced it. Astonishing. As they say - "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?" That's Labour's Welfare Secretary. He's describing the priorities of Labour MPs.

In the last financial year, the UK government brought in £331 billion in income tax — and spent even more, £333 billion, on welfare, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility's latest economic and fiscal outlook (obr.uk/efo/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-march-2026/#chapter-6).

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LuckyHazelFox · 23/09/2026 20:04

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:01

I answered up thread. I can’t help you if you don’t understand or comprehend. It’s common with the leftie squad. See what you want to see, cognitive dissonance and all that.

Well said Cov x

Gtfto2024 · 23/09/2026 20:18

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:03

No one’s talking about ‘proof’ or ‘prove’. Well except you babe. I certainly wasn’t. I’d just like the data Labour are suppressing. As I’ve stated many times. You’re doing mental gymnastics to suit your own mental model. Perhaps you’re projecting. I really couldn’t say.

Babe.

Proving you can't back your posts so resort to patronising posters.

LuckyHazelFox · 23/09/2026 20:19

Gtfto2024 · 23/09/2026 20:18

Babe.

Proving you can't back your posts so resort to patronising posters.

Can you prove Antifa don't exist?

EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:21

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:03

No one’s talking about ‘proof’ or ‘prove’. Well except you babe. I certainly wasn’t. I’d just like the data Labour are suppressing. As I’ve stated many times. You’re doing mental gymnastics to suit your own mental model. Perhaps you’re projecting. I really couldn’t say.

It’s fine to want the data for this reason.

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:22

Gtfto2024 · 23/09/2026 20:18

Babe.

Proving you can't back your posts so resort to patronising posters.

What?

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CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:23

EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:21

It’s fine to want the data for this reason.

Typical idiotic Labour I suppose!

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shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:24

Babe. Leftie.

Yawn.

You are the one who has started 3 threads about this data.

So I'll ask again - what are you hopeful it might prove?

Simple question. No need for defensiveness.

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:25

Fyi, I haven't voted Labour since the 90s - not that it's relevant.

EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:27

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:24

Babe. Leftie.

Yawn.

You are the one who has started 3 threads about this data.

So I'll ask again - what are you hopeful it might prove?

Simple question. No need for defensiveness.

Edited

Why does there have to be a hope as part of this.

The op has said what her reasoning is.

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:27

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:24

Babe. Leftie.

Yawn.

You are the one who has started 3 threads about this data.

So I'll ask again - what are you hopeful it might prove?

Simple question. No need for defensiveness.

Edited

Are you ok? I’ve answered your question already.

CoventryCity · Today 20:03
shecanbe · Today 19:52
I'm asking you what you hope this data will prove for you?
No one’s talking about ‘proof’ or ‘prove’. Well except you babe. I certainly wasn’t. I’d just like the data Labour are suppressing. As I’ve stated many times. You’re doing mental gymnastics to suit your own mental model. Perhaps you’re projecting. I really couldn’t say.

I’m bored with you now. Bye

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shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:30

So you can't answer.

How embarrassing.

EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:32

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:30

So you can't answer.

How embarrassing.

She has answered already.

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:41

She hasn't answered at all.

Don't try to make out she has just a passing nonchalant interest in this migrant data.

When you have started 3 threads and posted shite, dubious article after shite dubious article about migrant sex crime for days on end, don't then try to pretend you are not looking for 'stats' you reinforce your agenda. It's so disingenuous to be pathetic.

We all see the agenda here -clear as day. At least have the guts to own it.

5128gap · 23/09/2026 20:46

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:30

So you can't answer.

How embarrassing.

I doubt they do actually want the data.
What they want is to get all the tin hats in a lather, believing that there's a Labour conspiracy to deliberately import criminals to murder us and conceal it from us.
They think that if enough of the suggestible can be convinced of this, they'll forget Reform are a bunch of wrong uns and the Tories are yesterdays chips, and vote Labour out.

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:48

Why are you now sending me heart and flower emojis @CoventryCity? You could just be honest instead.

Kirbert2 · 23/09/2026 20:49

Badbadbunny · 23/09/2026 16:10

Maybe not but they're still "taking" a lot less than the shirkers if they're working, compared to those who aren't working, and it's not just tax revenue, it's actually doing work that needs doing to make the country a better place for everyone, keeping the economy moving etc.

Except it is far from the case that everyone who doesn't work is a shirker.

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:49

The migrant crime cover up

Why is Labour fighting to keep migrant crime statistics secret?

The Labour government has taken the egregious step of launching a legal bid to prevent the publication of migrant crime statistics.

Following a ruling by the Information Commissioner’s Office that the Ministry of Justice had “not demonstrated” any justifiable reason for withholding 2018 to 2024 data on convictions by nationality, the first instinct of former Justice Secretary, David Lammy was to go running to the courts.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-migrant-crime-cover-up/

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EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:50

5128gap · 23/09/2026 20:46

I doubt they do actually want the data.
What they want is to get all the tin hats in a lather, believing that there's a Labour conspiracy to deliberately import criminals to murder us and conceal it from us.
They think that if enough of the suggestible can be convinced of this, they'll forget Reform are a bunch of wrong uns and the Tories are yesterdays chips, and vote Labour out.

The op has answered though, I don’t get why it needs another version which isn’t the case.

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:53

https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-germany-sex-crime-figures-reignite-migration-fight-exploitation-probe-expands.amp

New Germany sex-crime figures reignite migration fight as exploitation probe expands

Researcher warns failed asylum screening and weak integration policy are fueling organized sexual exploitation across Europe

New German crime figures and an expanding investigation into an alleged sexual exploitation of teenage girls near the Nuremberg, Germany, central railway station are intensifying a broader European battle over migration, integration and whether officials have been too reluctant to confront patterns of organized sexual abuse.

Germany recorded 751 cases categorized as group rapes in 2025, according to the federal government’s response to a parliamentary inquiry submitted by the opposition Alternative für Deutschland party.

Police identified 1,087 suspects in the cases, including 509 German citizens and 578 non-German nationals. Syrians were the largestforeign-national group, with 110 suspects, followed by Afghans with 64, Iraqis with 46 and Turks with 44.

Germany records 751 group rape cases with 578 foreign suspects in 2025 | Fox News

German crime figures reveal 751 group rape cases in 2025, with Syrian migrants the largest foreign-national suspect group amid an expanding Nuremberg sexual exploitation investigation.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-germany-sex-crime-figures-reignite-migration-fight-exploitation-probe-expands.amp

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LuckyHazelFox · 23/09/2026 20:55

EasternStandard · 23/09/2026 20:50

The op has answered though, I don’t get why it needs another version which isn’t the case.

It's just badgering to get @CoventryCity to come across as racist. As clear as daylight that agenda is.

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:56

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 20:49

The migrant crime cover up

Why is Labour fighting to keep migrant crime statistics secret?

The Labour government has taken the egregious step of launching a legal bid to prevent the publication of migrant crime statistics.

Following a ruling by the Information Commissioner’s Office that the Ministry of Justice had “not demonstrated” any justifiable reason for withholding 2018 to 2024 data on convictions by nationality, the first instinct of former Justice Secretary, David Lammy was to go running to the courts.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-migrant-crime-cover-up/

Give me strength.

Yes we know about Labour. I'm not asking about what they may or may not be doing. If there is significant data it will come out eventually.

I'm asking OP - what do YOU hope to see from the data.

Which is bloody obvious from your 3 threads. Astonishing that you just can't say it.

shecanbe · 23/09/2026 20:58

Stop posting Fox News words and speak for yourself.

CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 21:03

Immigrant Background and Rape Conviction: A 21-Year Follow-Up Study in Sweden

Our findings reveal a strong link between immigrant background and rape convictions that remains after statistical adjustment. The mechanisms behind the overrepresentation of individuals with an immigrant background among those convicted of rape+ need further exploration.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605241311611

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CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 21:06

In Norway's capital, Oslo, immigrants from certain countries are heavy overrepresented in crime statistics.

For every 1,000 male Somali residents aged 15 to 24, there are a staggering 2,120 charges. In terms of violence and abuse, African immigrants in same category are overrepresented with more than 11 times the number of charges compared to Norwegians without an immigrant background. Somalis are overrepresented by more than 15 times.

https://x.com/HelgheimJon/status/1876924061189636199?lang=en

Jon Helgheim (@HelgheimJon) on X

In Norway's capital, Oslo, immigrants from certain countries are heavy overrepresented in crime statistics. For every 1,000 male Somali residents aged 15 to 24, there are a staggering 2,120 charges. In terms of violence and abuse, African immigrants in...

https://x.com/HelgheimJon/status/1876924061189636199?lang=en

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CoventryCity · 23/09/2026 21:08

LuckyHazelFox · 23/09/2026 20:55

It's just badgering to get @CoventryCity to come across as racist. As clear as daylight that agenda is.

Desperate of them isn’t it. But shows us exactly who they are.. We knew it anyway of course..

Thanks 🙏

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