To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

It is worth noting, that if Reform were to win the next GE, and Farage was made PM, that because of the way our system works, Farage will still only have about 25k votes, because only his constituency can vote for him.

Ok

What election? That’s the entire point, there wasn’t one.

Yeah well David M should have won that election if good ol ed hadn't stabbed his own brother in the back (with the help of the misguided misogynistic unions).

Indeed. But did BJ resign a mayoral position, and engineer a local by-election so that he could rise to the heights of PM within weeks?

ETA: Answer No.

No, they enobled Cameron so he could be Foreign Secretary instead - voted for by not a single person.

Only 25,351 of 47,000,000 people voted for Boris Johnson in 2019.

Are you talking to me? A simple thank you for what?

A simple thank you would have sufficed.

Yeah.. I was waiting for such a comment. Thanks for obliging. Doesn't change the fact that hardly anyone from the UK voted for the guy. I remember labour people going bonkers about Conservatives doing the same thing (well not Quite the same thing is it, I don't remember the Conservatives fudging / creating / imposing a local by-election in the same way Labour just did, to create a space for who they wanted as PM)..

I can see from your comment that you don't seem to understand how our democratic process works.

This may help. It's a very clear guide that should help you.

assets-learning.parliament.uk/uploads/2019/12/How-it-Works-booklet.pdf

Me too. Right PM wrong time, such shame.

I miss Sunak

YANBU OP. Looks like 50% agree. I'm surprised it's not more. Given that only 24,927 people from the UK have voted for the current PM, with an electorate of about 47million people.. it's rather a shocking situation.

24,927 out of 47,000,000 people. Means that only approximately 0.04% of the UK people on the electoral register voted for the current PM.

Much as I don't want yet another PM, Burnham should seek to get his PMship (not sure the correct term) ratified by the electorate, via an election. That as they say is democracy. No one voted for this man, in real terms. I could ask 46.5 million people tomorrow (maybe it would take longer...) if they voted for him, not one could say yes.

Gosh another thread almost full @CoventryCity

I think it's probably more of an urban / rural thing rather than whether a place is a LD or a whatever else constituency. I mean, probably don't put asylum seekers in Reform areas which are already volatile enough as it is. But don't put them on the edge of tiny villages with no shops or services either. It's common sense.

Obviously putting many in new areas which are Lib Dem and leafy attracts new issues. But people who are not in mc areas felt forgotten as they took more people before that.

So now they too are a no thanks. Which is problematic for Labour.

I think there are peak times when they come - like now when the weather is good and the seas are calmer maybe. But as soon as winter approaches, the numbers will fall . I saw Labour have actually reduced the number of crossings, compared to the same time last year.

If Elon Musk and co put even 10% of the energy they put into whipping people into a frenzy about sex-crazed migrants (and this idea that Britain is falling under Sharia law or whatnot), into making the internet safer for children and banning online porn, then that would be something I could get behind. But no. Free porn for all
men - free speech and all that;, our children subject to all sorts of horrors and ideological / sexual grooming online; the likes of Andrew Tate and his morons poisoning boys minds; but oh ... look over there at the poor sods in leaking dingies. They are the threat to 'our women.'

It’s filled within a week anyway. 1000 arrive and that’s that accommodation full.

I don't think it's an 'extreme' reaction to not want 1000 men on the edge of a village. I wouldn't put any 1000 men in the edge of a village - I don't care where they come from - and I think that was a stupid policy. They could put those 1000 men elsewhere, in so many places, and nobody would even notice.

But that’s the case for many people. Look at Piddington which is Lib Dem. It was refugees welcome in theory but are a no thanks to mass accommodation nearby.

I don’t think they’re extreme or outliers even. I think most would feel similarly if in their position.

Been out but great to come back and read your posts @5128gap (and others) because you articulate it so much better than I could!

When I hear this weird talk about 'sides,' I don't know where to begin because I don't see myself as a 'leftie.' I live in a London borough which has been LibDem for a while - used to sometimes go Conservative, but they fell out of favour since Brexit as the borough was so strongly 'Remain.' But there is no point voting Labour in our constituency as they never get in , so anyone minded to vote Labour would probably vote LD to keep the Conservatives out. The likes of Reform don't even bother in our area, let's just say that. So I voted LD in the last council elections, even though I certainly do not agree with trans ideology or (admittedly) even know what their latest stance is on this. But it was either that, or Conservative, so what can you do?

The irony is, it's people around my way that would probably have most to gain from a Reform govt - in a purely financial sense. Labour put VAT in school fees; there is a strong feeling that they don't understand business and entrepreneurship; and it seems we have a mansion tax coming our way. Reform supposedly (if you believe they have any policies beyond 'immigration'), have some policy to encourage people to use private schools and tax policies to benefit rich business people. But I would never vote for them and, to be honest, I've never met anyone who would. I would be ashamed to live in a Reform-led society and, in my view, the lot of them are rotten to the core. It's the politics of hate and division. I have had the misfortune to meet Farage and I felt I wanted to vomit. Hideous man But anyway, I'm hardly 'far left' - just a 52 year-old mum of 4. I wouldn't have a clue about 'Antifa' or any of this type of thing. I just don't want my children to grow up in an inward-looking, hateful, racist society. They are Indian/Iranian/Spanish/British and so it's difficult to have a 'them and us' perspectives on immigrants, or to stereotype people according to 'culture.' We are not religious and I don't know what people are so scared of.

We need to keep the woodland and as much countryside as possible.

Quoted wrong post sorry. Should have quoted LadieLaky

Medical advances can’t make people immortal and there will always be a need for humans to do the work impossible for AI.

I'm not so sure about that. With global warming, AI, people living longer because of medical advances there will be some difficult decisions to be made in the next 20/25 years. I think there will be food and water shortages and countries will want to keep their borders shut.