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To think my husband did not go too far and they should just get over it ?

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ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

OP posts:
NotABlessedFruit · 20/09/2026 20:10

Isn't it a kind of misogyny to suggest only women should stop jobs and care for the children and men should be only hands off providers 🙈

NotABlessedFruit · 20/09/2026 20:11

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 19:30

Why are some thinking that 6 months paternity leave is odd....quite a few places do it now might as well take it. The other 6 months was unpaid but it worked out better for us and our family.

It's odd because even gov doesn't provide that. Genuine 6 weeks max is know of. I am big fan of that company though!

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 20:13

NotABlessedFruit · 20/09/2026 20:10

Isn't it a kind of misogyny to suggest only women should stop jobs and care for the children and men should be only hands off providers 🙈

No-one is suggesting that (well most people aren't.) But for the new mum to have full maternity leave (9 to 12 months) AND for the new dad to have 12 months paternity leave as well is extremely rare. Only couples I know who would do this are celebrities, and/or rich and privileged people. The vast majority of people would not be able to lose 6 months pay for the father of the child (the OP said he's taking 12 months paternity leave and the second 6 months is unpaid.)

Nope, not normal.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/09/2026 20:15

He lashed out and insulted her body. There was other ways to react. I am sure he’s had a 100 females before tell him how wonderful he is for stepping up. I’d be annoyed with him.

FudgeFudy · 20/09/2026 20:19

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 20:13

No-one is suggesting that (well most people aren't.) But for the new mum to have full maternity leave (9 to 12 months) AND for the new dad to have 12 months paternity leave as well is extremely rare. Only couples I know who would do this are celebrities, and/or rich and privileged people. The vast majority of people would not be able to lose 6 months pay for the father of the child (the OP said he's taking 12 months paternity leave and the second 6 months is unpaid.)

Nope, not normal.

But what's that got to do with the price of fish? There are a fair few companies that offer 6 months at full pay, and the OP's husband clearly works for one of them. Some also offer a further 6 months unpaid, essentially replicating what they offer for maternity leave. No it's not the norm - I don't remember anybody saying it was - but it clearly works for the OP and her husband and...that's that isn't it?

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:31

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 20:09

I have just genuinely never known any man do this. Like ever. I have known one man have a month off, (2 weeks paid paternity leave and 2 weeks holiday leave.) I have never known any new father have a full year off on paternity leave. It is very unusual. I don't think anyone can say it's normal.

Most big companies offer 6 months paternity. DH had 6 months paid and then decided to take 6 months off unpaid, he had to go through HR etc for the other 6 months but they were fine with it. He has since been back at work and now again is off for 6 months then he will do another 6 months unpaid. It is only 6 months that is paid not the full year, sorry if I did not make that clearer.

OP posts:
BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 21:42

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:31

Most big companies offer 6 months paternity. DH had 6 months paid and then decided to take 6 months off unpaid, he had to go through HR etc for the other 6 months but they were fine with it. He has since been back at work and now again is off for 6 months then he will do another 6 months unpaid. It is only 6 months that is paid not the full year, sorry if I did not make that clearer.

Less than 5% of companies in the UK offer 6 months paid paternity leave, adding into that the extra 6 months your DH has booked off as unpaid leave, that makes your situation very unusual indeed. Moreso as you can afford to lose 6 months pay of your husband's ... Very VERY few people will experience this. I am not saying you're lying, but don't act like it's fairly normal, because it's very rare.

Anyway, I'm just repeating myself now... So I'm done.

As for your original dilemma, as I said, your family members were rude and intrusive, but your husband was nasty - attacking someone's weight.

Lmnop22 · 20/09/2026 21:46

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:31

Most big companies offer 6 months paternity. DH had 6 months paid and then decided to take 6 months off unpaid, he had to go through HR etc for the other 6 months but they were fine with it. He has since been back at work and now again is off for 6 months then he will do another 6 months unpaid. It is only 6 months that is paid not the full year, sorry if I did not make that clearer.

I’ve never even met a mother who has had this much time for maternity leave let alone a father for paternity leave!

Not that he shouldn’t or that it’s a bad thing at all, just that he’s lucky he works somewhere that would be that understanding

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:46

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 21:42

Less than 5% of companies in the UK offer 6 months paid paternity leave, adding into that the extra 6 months your DH has booked off as unpaid leave, that makes your situation very unusual indeed. Moreso as you can afford to lose 6 months pay of your husband's ... Very VERY few people will experience this. I am not saying you're lying, but don't act like it's fairly normal, because it's very rare.

Anyway, I'm just repeating myself now... So I'm done.

As for your original dilemma, as I said, your family members were rude and intrusive, but your husband was nasty - attacking someone's weight.

I do think that is a shame. I know not every company offers it but quite a lot of the big companies ie FTSE100 companies. My view might be skewed because of the industry I work in as most of my friends who have children, their husbands all had 6 months paternity. Dhs sister's husband got 9 months paternity fully paid. It would be great if more companies offered 6 months paternity. Dhs thinking is that if it is offered why not take it, he would rather be spending time with his son he enjoyed it when our eldest was still little but now he is at school. We do not plan on having anymore children and time flies 6 months or a year off work is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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dogsarebetterthanppl · 20/09/2026 21:56

while i believe a child absolutely needs it’s mother, your husband did the right thing putting a stop to her rattling on with a short sharp shock, i can’t fucking abide sanctimonious lecturing. i would have said similar to her or worse (my tongue is as well known as it is dreaded and not many people dare to arouse it, but it takes a very unpleasant fucker to activate it). if she is offended then it means she’s unhappy being fat so she should join slimming world. i don’t understand why her being a woman makes it worse, to my knowledge possessing a vagina doesn’t entitle you to upset/annoy people and come away unscathed.

thesealion · 20/09/2026 22:16

Lookatmelookatmedontevenlookatme · 20/09/2026 17:13

Yes he went too far. Their narrow minded comments needed addressing but what he said was a personal comment intended to hurt. I think that’s really awful, OP, sorry.

I too would purposely say the most hurtful thing I could think of to someone who’d been nitpicking and criticising my life choices for years and I’d find it hilarious and well-deserved if my partner did this.

Ayarreet · 21/09/2026 00:32

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:31

Most big companies offer 6 months paternity. DH had 6 months paid and then decided to take 6 months off unpaid, he had to go through HR etc for the other 6 months but they were fine with it. He has since been back at work and now again is off for 6 months then he will do another 6 months unpaid. It is only 6 months that is paid not the full year, sorry if I did not make that clearer.

Bullshit.

Ayarreet · 21/09/2026 00:35

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:46

I do think that is a shame. I know not every company offers it but quite a lot of the big companies ie FTSE100 companies. My view might be skewed because of the industry I work in as most of my friends who have children, their husbands all had 6 months paternity. Dhs sister's husband got 9 months paternity fully paid. It would be great if more companies offered 6 months paternity. Dhs thinking is that if it is offered why not take it, he would rather be spending time with his son he enjoyed it when our eldest was still little but now he is at school. We do not plan on having anymore children and time flies 6 months or a year off work is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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That's nice, dear.

deadbobaplace · 21/09/2026 01:05

If she hadn't been whining about her weight prior to bitching about other people's life choices then he wouldn't have gone there.You goad sleep-deprived people, chances are you're going to end up being verbally abused. Pretty much a self-inflicted wound.

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 21/09/2026 07:24

@DarkSunshine @Makebelieveanotherlife @Coconutter24

I’m sorry my post wasnt clear enough - the ‘positive’ I was referring to was the approach that OP and her partner are taking to joint parenting. Such a shame that he didnt double down on the benefits of their approach and instead chose to make a personal insult.

phoenixrosehere · 21/09/2026 07:41

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 21/09/2026 07:24

@DarkSunshine @Makebelieveanotherlife @Coconutter24

I’m sorry my post wasnt clear enough - the ‘positive’ I was referring to was the approach that OP and her partner are taking to joint parenting. Such a shame that he didnt double down on the benefits of their approach and instead chose to make a personal insult.

He already has in the past repeatedly.

Once again there is always higher expectation and what the victim should have done than the actual bullies and then people wonder why people get away with poor behaviour for so long/

This would be the last straw for me and I wouldn’t go near the two again. They obviously think they can treat people however they want and their opinions matter on something that has nothing to do with them.

OP you and DH feeling sorry for them and continuing these visits is enabling their behaviour as is other family members not pulling them up on it.

They’ve had many years to mature and learn to keep their opinions to themselves. They won’t be alone if you stop visiting since they’ll have each other and the people still willing to tolerate them.

jeaux90 · 21/09/2026 07:48

I mean he did kind of windmill into that but sounds like they deserved it.

ForFancyNavyLion · 21/09/2026 08:03

Ayarreet · 21/09/2026 00:32

Bullshit.

Okay? I can only speak on my own experiences for the last 4 years being parents and how we have navigated that with work and what is best for our family.

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Quine0nline · 21/09/2026 08:13

It does sound like some on your family are "the man must go down pit and tha wife Maun cook to s of stodge to feed menfolk. Knaw tha place tha knows" traditional, allus has been allus will be. I'm not going to ask their opinion on Brexit, asylum seekers of benefits. I suspect I know.
Challenge bullies, don't take bullying. - get in the bullies face.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/09/2026 08:23

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 21:46

I do think that is a shame. I know not every company offers it but quite a lot of the big companies ie FTSE100 companies. My view might be skewed because of the industry I work in as most of my friends who have children, their husbands all had 6 months paternity. Dhs sister's husband got 9 months paternity fully paid. It would be great if more companies offered 6 months paternity. Dhs thinking is that if it is offered why not take it, he would rather be spending time with his son he enjoyed it when our eldest was still little but now he is at school. We do not plan on having anymore children and time flies 6 months or a year off work is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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How the other half live. Sounds great but it is very far from RL for most people outside of your circle.
DH got two days on both of our children.
I had to go back when my second was 16 weeks as we couldn’t afford to pay the bills on one wage and a small maternity payment.
I wouldn’t advise the above. I had a breakdown.
The youngest is 11, paternity leave = two weeks came into force after in Ireland.

SpecialShark · 21/09/2026 08:46

Not a man.

You might believe that a father having six months off work, unpaid, to help change nappies is "progressive". I don't.

HisNibs · 21/09/2026 08:49

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/09/2026 08:23

How the other half live. Sounds great but it is very far from RL for most people outside of your circle.
DH got two days on both of our children.
I had to go back when my second was 16 weeks as we couldn’t afford to pay the bills on one wage and a small maternity payment.
I wouldn’t advise the above. I had a breakdown.
The youngest is 11, paternity leave = two weeks came into force after in Ireland.

Absolutely. When my two were born, there was no paternity leave, not even a day. I took 3 weeks annual leave each time and had to get a Director's permission for that since it was more than 2 weeks.

DS had his first earlier this year and got 2 weeks paternity and took 2 weeks annual leave straight after. I thought that was pretty good tbh. Thinking 6 months fully paid paternity is the norm 😆

SpecialShark · 21/09/2026 08:57

thatsgotit · 20/09/2026 17:45

Unmanly! snort

Seriously, do give your head a wobble. The ‘role’ of a husband in early parenthood, just like the ‘role’ of a wife, is whatever the couple decides between them as the best system for them as individuals, and for their baby.

I haven’t RTFT but it wouldn’t surprise me if you were a man yourself —and a rubbish father to boot—.

Not a man.

You might believe that a father having six months off work, unpaid, to help change nappies is "progressive". I don't.

Differentforgirls · 21/09/2026 09:03

SpecialShark · 21/09/2026 08:57

Not a man.

You might believe that a father having six months off work, unpaid, to help change nappies is "progressive". I don't.

Why?

FiveEightNine · 21/09/2026 09:04

SpecialShark · 21/09/2026 08:57

Not a man.

You might believe that a father having six months off work, unpaid, to help change nappies is "progressive". I don't.

I don't see it as "help to change nappies" - I see it as enjoy the time with a new child and do the work needed.

And I see it as an ultimate career success - to be able to take the time of work as you wish and get back when you are ready.
Yes, it is a priviledge, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't use it.