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To think my husband did not go too far and they should just get over it ?

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ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

OP posts:
WorthyMintKoala · 20/09/2026 16:54

Both are wrong but one person started it. Will she be apologising? She was rude first so she can apologise first. Then he should.

Goinggreymammy · 20/09/2026 16:59

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:27

This is what he said. Seems as though calling someone fat is a sin yet being sexist and misogynistic is okay. She has been at it for 4 years this was not the first run in, it is just the first time my husband decided to just tell to stop. NO before people jump at my throat for 'body shaming' I am not encouraging that behaviour and I have said to him I wish he approached it a different way, he has said he is sorry for embarrassing me but he won't be apologising to her, she has spent 4 years calling him names, being sexist, seemingly uncomfortable with the fact that he wants to be involved in fatherhood.

You said he rarely sees her. So how has she spent 4 years calling him names?
I think you and your husband are sensitive about comments on your parenting choices but it certainly doesn't excuse his comment.

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 16:59

@ForFancyNavyLion

I understand why he snapped, and you are absolutely correct that a man should be looking after the babies in the same manner/as much as the mother of the babies if he is not working, but he lost any moral high ground by slagging off her weight, so I am saying YABU. He could have said 'keep out of our business, it's got nothing to do with you,' without fat shaming her.

Also, I would love to know who this glossy and magical employer is who gives men 6 months off for paternity leave with full pay, and also 6 months on top unpaid. That's a lot of income lost, and national insurance contributions too. Is this in the UK, because I don't know any companies who would offer this/allow this.

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 17:02

Eightfor15 · 20/09/2026 16:41

It had everything to do with the conversation though. She had been saying she needed to do something about her weight. Had she been talking about knitting, that's what he would have reported with.

Please read OPs posts before constructing your strawman argument.

No, it's an entirely nonsensical insult. I have read the OP's posts. There is absolutely no connection between the cousin's weight and the DH's decision to take paternity leave. None.

Helgirl666 · 20/09/2026 17:03

The fact is they were attempting to shame and in essence belittle his masculinity. He just gave a little taste of their own medicine as we all know that (right or wrong) commenting on a woman's weight is classic shaming and questioning of a woman's femininity. Neither is right but I can understand him snapping and going for the one thing he knew she would be most sensitive about. I guess others have already said an apology non apology is appropriate in this situation and move on staying out of each other's way. Oh and good for you and your husband for moving into the 21st century x

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 17:04

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

12 months off for the father of the baby is odd isn't it? When the mother is having the maternity leave too. Never known this happen in my life, not in the UK.

Glitchymn1 · 20/09/2026 17:05

Neither covered themselves in glory! He shouldn’t have sworn or brought weight into out for his sake.

theyneverchangedothey · 20/09/2026 17:06

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

Fuck me. 1865 called, they’d like you to return, immediately.

Mumtotornadoes · 20/09/2026 17:09

He was vile.
Shutting it down. Absolutely. Even bringing up her own parenting or relationship would have been justified. But he didn't make any kind of point or anything. He just said something incredibly derogatory and childish and made himself look even worse.

RealEagle · 20/09/2026 17:09

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

Unmanly! the aunt has joined the thread.

Lookatmelookatmedontevenlookatme · 20/09/2026 17:13

Yes he went too far. Their narrow minded comments needed addressing but what he said was a personal comment intended to hurt. I think that’s really awful, OP, sorry.

Farr85 · 20/09/2026 17:14

Nah he shouldn't apologise. They were bang out of order.

Morecoffeeneedef · 20/09/2026 17:16

He was very unpleasant to a woman for no good reason . He could have told her that her views are decades out of date and that he enjoys sharing the care of his children. He could have said he's bored with listening to her. No need to personally insult her.

IHaveQuestionsLotsOfQuestions · 20/09/2026 17:16

Even stevens I reckon. Maybe next time she'll think twice about chatting shit about other people's personal family decisions.

Keepgettingolder81 · 20/09/2026 17:18

Good on him! That is hilarious!

NotABlessedFruit · 20/09/2026 17:18

House12 · 20/09/2026 16:34

I’m blown away by how many pearl clutchers think a weight comment is more offensive than telling a guy he shouldn’t be doing so much for his wife, shaming him or implying a lack of masculinity for being an active father. It’s offensive to both the OP and her husband. I’d’ve given him a standing ovation, frankly.

And then atill go with "Why don't men do more😭" all the time.

I think that men having same paternity as women would be smashing. 1st the women takes, then the men, that way they cover most time until nursery, level work playing field (with same time off) etc. Or both at the same time, why not. It would also mean that everyone is used to being with the baby and there are no issues around admin, weekend or evening away and so on.
My dad did use to say he was really sorry he missed so much because he was at work (he had no choice unpess he would go for u employment which was not possible att).
Op and DH get mega points here. Iirc they are looking at extending paternity to 22 weeks. I say, go further

Anyahyacinth · 20/09/2026 17:18

I wonder if they worry about him and his influence...why on earth would his mind go there to insult?

They were criticising behaviour ..he chose a personal attack..they had no power to stop what you've agreed as a family unit. So it was just wittering and your DH chose a personal attack.

There were far better ways to respond...having a unpleasant temper with a baby in your charge is worrying.

DressOrSkirt · 20/09/2026 17:19

It wouldn't have been appropriate for her to make those comments if she was slim. He is an arsehole for insulting her weight instead of her sexism.
He hasn't properly stood up for himself/you/his family, and it would make me wonder how he'll treat you if you gain weight when you're older.

SwanRivers · 20/09/2026 17:19

Morecoffeeneedef · 20/09/2026 17:16

He was very unpleasant to a woman for no good reason . He could have told her that her views are decades out of date and that he enjoys sharing the care of his children. He could have said he's bored with listening to her. No need to personally insult her.

Agreed.

He's proved he lacks the intelligence and maturity to put forward what would've been a solid argument.

Embarrassing really.

Eightfor15 · 20/09/2026 17:20

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 17:02

No, it's an entirely nonsensical insult. I have read the OP's posts. There is absolutely no connection between the cousin's weight and the DH's decision to take paternity leave. None.

If you've read the posts you'll have read that she kept referring to managing her own weight.

That is the fucking connection.

Sobriety78 · 20/09/2026 17:20

He should probably apologise for the weight comment but if it were me apologising id have to add in that I was also sorry that they'd been raised with such a misogynistic viewpoint on child rearing and that I pity any child born into that viewpoint. But im a scorch the earth kind of person

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 17:28

Eightfor15 · 20/09/2026 17:20

If you've read the posts you'll have read that she kept referring to managing her own weight.

That is the fucking connection.

Oh, dear. I'm afraid not. There is no "fucking connection." 😅

Here's what he said: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you."

How would focusing on her weight mean that she wouldn't care about the DH's decision to take paternity leave? Seriously, how? It's just an absurd insult from someone who was (rightly) incensed about her retrograde opinions. He should have stuck to the topic under discussion, rather than lowering himself to an irrelevant personal insult.

DressOrSkirt · 20/09/2026 17:31

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:27

This is what he said. Seems as though calling someone fat is a sin yet being sexist and misogynistic is okay. She has been at it for 4 years this was not the first run in, it is just the first time my husband decided to just tell to stop. NO before people jump at my throat for 'body shaming' I am not encouraging that behaviour and I have said to him I wish he approached it a different way, he has said he is sorry for embarrassing me but he won't be apologising to her, she has spent 4 years calling him names, being sexist, seemingly uncomfortable with the fact that he wants to be involved in fatherhood.

No, it's because being fat isn't as bad as being a sexist bigot trying to cause drama.
Why did he insult her weight instead of any of the things she was actually doing wrong?

Fiftyandme · 20/09/2026 17:33

She was bang out of order. And got what she deserved