To feel angry that some people can’t accept sometimes accidents happen? (Title edited by MNHQ to avoid any confusion)

Don’t be ridiculous of course there are accidents! A grandfather falling over and his grandsons running off and falling in a pond is an accident. It’s not carelessness. It’s a shitty accident. Nothing more. It’s unbelievably cruel to suggest otherwise. That man, that family will have to deal with this tragic accident for the rest of their lives.

...And you're still recounting this story as if she was the problem??

@notwhingingjuststatingfacts there are regulations regarding ponds pools and fencing. It’s careless.

There is no regulation for pond fencing such as the pond that poor Noah drowned in. It is a fishing lake with public access. Suggesting every open body of water in the UK should be fenced is madness.

RP is an accent though. Isn't it? I mean, to me its "normal". To my friend from Newcastle its an accent.

I think you need a name change to unintelligible26
Is Sri Lanks the RP name for Sri Lanka?
were you in biz (?) or not?
what is accustically?

I saw someone say that because the little boy was 3, he went missing at 3, and there was some other aspect that had the number 3, then to them that made it suspicious as was too many 3s in the story and so it was clearly a sign and agenda.

It scares me these people are allowed to vote etc.

Poor family.

Your examples are ridiculous and frankly quite upsetting to read. I can't imagine what the family is going through, especially the grandad!
He fell over and couldn't catch his grandson. I know you'll say it was carelessness because gates should have been shut, and he should have had reigns, and the pond should have been secured in whatever way.
By this logic noone should ever leave the house.

What ARE you talking about? Are you talking about conspiracy theorists?

This

😂very good

A few weeks ago when it was sunny I was walking from a hospital car park to find somewhere cross a busy road safely.

A wasp started aggressively chasing me and I was so startled I stumbled trying to get away from it but at the same time let out an enormous fart 😳.

A couple walking in front of me and talking to each other stopped dead and were obviously unaware I was behind them but I alerted them to my presence with the loud fart, it meant I kind of half crashed/half staggered into them.
They seemed completely bewildered and didn’t even laugh at the fart because of the sheer element of surprise.

Out of embarrassment and trying to get away from them (and the wasp which was still pursuing me) I stepped back out of their way and onto the road just as a car was coming and the car had to break suddenly.

It is hard to describe such a ridiculous situation and it happened so quickly that it was a shock.
I told people about it later who found it hilarious but it wasn’t funny at the time.
I can laugh now because of the sheer absurdity of it but the car could have easily hit me and it was a national speed limit.

That would have definitely been a freak accident and when I have peri menopausal insomnia on nights like tonight I’ve thought a few times how that would have been a ridiculous way to die.

Is that an example of the kind of freak accident you were thinking of?!
I thought it was a good example of the sort of thing that you definitely don’t plan for or would foresee happening.
I bet the couple walking in front of me have told the story a few times 😆.

Oh, dear! 🤣🤣🤣 That has given me a sorely-needed laugh! Thank you! Yes, that is the kind of freak accident I was thinking of!

Yes, accidents do happen unfortunately.

I'm not in any way relating this to the sad story about Noah but sometimes accidents are caused by negligence. When I was a toddler, I fell directly on the bars of an open bar heater that had no grill on it. It took months of suffering for me due to burns. My mother had left me in the room with it while she went to do some laundry. That is the sort of accident caused by negligence and entirely foreseeable.

Kids running away can happen so fast. Nothing but sympathy for that family.

This is wrong.

People can trip on well-maintained surfaces. People drop things.

When a tragedy occurs to someone else, we all want to believe that if we are clever and vigilant enough, we can stop the same thing happening to us. That's why we always look for someone to blame, some avoidable cause, even when the tragedy is clearly an accident. It's a kind of magical thinking, connected to a belief in luck.

When that child was thrown in to the pit of crocodiles a woman at work said ‘what were the parents doing! They should have looked after their child’.
Like any parent holds on to their child every second in case of them being suddenly grabbed by a mentally ill person.
I said thy was a terrible thing to say as it was a freak occurrence and surely she must not have held on to her children every minute when they were small. She maintains that she did and it would never have happened to her child.
Can confirm she is thick.

Most people who drown in the UK annually can swim, though. They most often drown because they enter the water accidentally, fully-clothed, and die of cold water shock, because drink/drugs impair their ability to get out, and/or because their clothes impede them.

@CostcoFanofThree

This is nonsense. Yes, carelessness can be the cause of an accident, but not always.

You can always use hindsight to say this or that mitigation could have been put in place, but if you did this,‘you’d never get out of bed in the morning because you’d need to be thinking through and mitigating every million-to-one thing that could possibly happen to you between your bed and the bathroom!

Psychologically your attitude is dangerous, leading to a life bedevilled by unnecessary guilt and blame.

Very wise words that @CostcoFanofThree would benefit from. considering!

Yes absolutely this

This triggered a flashback of memory when Madeline McCann went missing in Portugal and the social media posts wanting to apportion blame on the parents

I have agoraphobia, panic disorder and OCD. Ive had a bit of therapy around magical thinking a few years ago, but I've never heard anyone mention they suffer with it or know what it is. I've tried to explain what it is to a couple of people and I cant 😂
It gets hard to differentiate the magical thinking from my OCD thoughts sometimes🙈
I remember my councillor asked me to write on a piece of paper, "I'm going to win the lottery" and we both laughed, then he asked me to write "my mum's going to die" and I couldn't, I cried, I know the logic is the same but that's mental health I suppose.

What happened to Noah, is literally what i thought would happen to my kids everytime I went out with them when they were his age, that they'd bolt from me and get lost, or I'd have a panic attack and run from a shop to get back in my car and wouldn't notice my kids following me (husband always there), and they'd get hit by a car in the car park. I stopped going out with them even with my husband. It got to the point I wouldn't eat if I was alone with them because I was scared I'd choke and die, and they'd hurt themselves.
I'm trying to give myself some grace and remember I was very bloody ill, but I missed out on a hell of a lot, and I'll always be sad about that.

People saying he shouldn't have been out with someone that couldn't catch him, or why didn't he have reigns, someone said its not an accident, just people not being prepared or careless. From experience, you can't prepare for every eventuality, in every situation. Believe me I tried, and it's no way to live.

Was it @CostcoFanofThree who said it?

It can sometimes take having a near miss yourself to understand how easy it is. As it goes, I have a non verbal autistic 6 yo so at his age you’d think he wouldn’t run off as Noah did, yet he occasionally still will if something takes his fancy. We have to grip his hand/wrist in public and use a wrist strap in busy places.

We’re particularly cautious near bodies of water, autistic children have a proclivity towards water sadly. My DS loves birds so I think he wants to get in to swim with them… At a very busy supermarket abroad last year he slipped away from us when we were standing at the checkout without us even realising for a minute or so. That’s all it takes. We were fortunate he had only run to a bench we had sat on earlier in the day and not the road. He has run in roads before to get to a car he was interested in. They have no sense of danger.

So yeah, I know how these things happen and I can’t judge any parent going through this as a result. Not everyone understands it and will stupidly think things like Grandad should have been closer etc. They are rapid once they go. If it helps those bastards, I’m sure his family will blame themselves forever but it was no one’s fault. It takes seconds for your whole life to change.

Here’s one. The playwright Aeschylus was walking along one day when an eagle flying overhead mistook his bald head for a rock and dropped a tortoise on it, leading to Aeschylus’ sad demise.