To feel angry that some people can’t accept sometimes accidents happen? (Title edited by MNHQ to avoid any confusion)

@Ponoka7 I think the thing with what happened to Noah is that the events leading to him running off are almost certainly caught on CCTV. From that the police will have been able to quickly see that this isn’t a case where there was negligence or foul play on behalf of anyone. It’s just a really horrendous accident.
ultimately nobody is going to blame themselves more than the poor grandfather anyway. I desperately hope the family can get some peace and that this doesn’t tear them apart.

@notwhingingjuststatingfacts it wasn't that case. That came up, then my news feed brought up other cases. It's puzzling to me because some of the child deaths in cars, I don't think were accidents, but there's often no charges. I don't agree with the comments, but like during BLM protests, people seem to think the UK and the USA is the same place.

Let's hope anyone on the fence about harnesses and wrist straps now opt for one.

If we are talking about the same case then they are nowhere near identical cases!
This was a little boy who ran off when his grandfather fell over leaving the play park and sadly drowned.
The US case was entirely different. She absconded from the house she was staying in whilst not being appropriately supervised nor was she wearing her tracker. She was a known absconder - to such an extent she always wore a tracker - who was in an unfamiliar place. Despite knowing she wasn’t wearing her tracker the parents insisted she was and significant time was wasted in trying to locate her tracker not searching for her.

The two cases are not remotely comparable.

Yes but I wasn't talking to someone who was talking about the original point was I? Yes it's tragic, but i've not made light of it, get over youself.

Have you actually read any of the rest of the thread?

It doesn't help that people are so tuned in to America. There's nearly an identical case just happened, except the parents have been arrested and charged with unlawfully placing a child at risk. The wording is "at an unreasonable risk of harm affecting her life and safety by failing to provide supervision and safeguards appropriate...". So people are asking why we haven't got those charges. Then there's the conspiracy idiots.

https://www.change.org/p/require-protective-fencing-around-accessible-bodies-of-water-to-safeguard-autistic-and-sen

Oh come off it, its a bit of light hearted fun and I wasn't even responding to you.

They've said it's too late as so many people have referred to accents it would be confusing now.

I don't know why, it's really getting to me. I should probably just stop checking the thread as some people are enjoying the joke so much. Obviously it's what we all thought when we saw the thread title but you literally just have to read the OP to see how inappropriate it is.

Please don't. You don't even need to read the full thread. Just a few posts would show you.

I have seen a petition this morning calling for all accessible bodies of water to be fenced off to keep those with autism safe. I don't agree, not only because it is impossible but I also not think the payoff would be large enough.

So, they want to fence off the entire UK coastline?

That’s a fucking awful thing to say about a man who is almost certainly in despair right now. I hope his family can’t see this.

Not every accident can be prevented. I have a friend who was sitting innocently in her living room when half the ceiling fell on her head, resulting in quite a nasty injury. Now, yes, that was a structural failure that OUGHT to have been detected and put right before it happened - but if you don't KNOW that a structure is about to fail and there are no signs of it happening prior to the accident, then you can't mitigate or repair.

So you can only prevent what you can foresee. And sometimes the unforeseeable happens.

Accidents not accents 👍🏻

I adore it 😍

Naa then, si' thi' 'ere.
Nowt wrong wiv' a yok'sha' accent.

Did anyone else come into this expecting the thread to be about the lack of representation of local dialects in the media?

I think it’s a psychological defense mechanism - “it can’t happen to me, l’m always in control. My child is safe”.

The idea that something could happen that’s entirely out of your control is terrifying, and some people don’t want to, or viscerally cannot, accept it.

@mnhqcan you correct the thread title from “accents” to “accidents”, pls?

I may have not lived there for 40+ years, but I still have my accent and people comment on it.

I also think that you inevitably end up building your safety measures around your own child.

My toddler never put anything in her mouth and it was only when X came to play and crawled around the carpet hunting out every scrap of dirt to eat that I realised my floor wasn't really safe.

And when I took her to play in X's
home I spent all the time trying to stop her grabbing at the low positioned ornaments that X had never been interested in climbing up to reach.

I think there is a lot to this. The story with Noah for example is just so unbearably sad that rather than accept the reality that it could be our toddler we calm ourselves by saying it was preventable. Some people are obviously just trolls but for many people it is probably a bit of a defence mechanism.

In terms of autistic spectrum disorders, it's a specific term rather than running off to get married.

I've read some awful things about Noah's poor grandfather. Awful. Terrible things happen in life. Parenting seems to be a competition these days. Everyone (especially mothers) are clutching their pearls, gasping that this would never happen to them, and at the same time, their kids don't know how to put their coats on because they've never been encouraged to do anything for themselves. Blaming someone for a tragic accident is beyond awful. Accidents happen. House fires start because of small mistakes. Kid's trip up and hit their heads because they weren't paying attention. Shit happens. It is awful, of course, but blaming someone who is undoubtedly grieving is terrible. "This would never happen to my child, or a child in my care". Well, let's hope so, but we never know what can happen in a split second.

Perfectly put.